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Offline kudrdima  
#1 Posted : 11 March 2022 10:07:38(UTC)
kudrdima

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Habe einen sehr alten Spur 1 Märklin 5751 Adler gekauft.
Auf der Märklin-Website gibt es, vielleicht aufgrund des "fortgeschrittenen" Alters des Modells, keine Informationen darüber: keine Demontageanleitung, keine Bedienungsanleitung ...

Es besteht der Wunsch, dieses Modell von Wechselstrom auf Gleichstrom umzurüsten, und in Zukunft einen DCC-Decoder.

Wenn jemand eine solche Erfahrung gemacht hat - wo kann ich das Gerät dieses Modells und das Verfahren für die Überarbeitung sehen?
Wie hoch ist die Motoranschlussspannung, Stromaufnahme, ist sie nicht für leistungsstarke Decoder für große Modelle geeignet, sondern für einen kleinen, stromsparenden Decoder für die Spurweite H0?

Vielen Dank im Voraus,
Dmitri Kudrjaschow.

P.S. Leider kann ich kein Deutsch - ich habe mit Hilfe von Google Übersetzer übersetzt.



EN:
Bought a very old Spur 1 Märklin 5751 Adler.
On the Märklin website, perhaps due to the "advanced" age of the model, there is no information about it: no disassembly instructions, no operating manual ...

There is a desire to convert this model from AC to DC power supply, and in the future a DCC decoder.

If anyone had such an experience - where can I see the device of this model and the procedure for remaking it?
What is the motor supply voltage, current consumption, is it suitable not for powerful decoders for large models, but for a small, low-current decoder for the H0 scale?

Thank you in advance,
Dmitry Kudryashov.

P.S. Unfortunately, I do not know German - I translated with the help of Goole translator.
Sincerely,
Dmitry Kudryashov.
P.S. Unfortunately, I do not speak English - I translated with the help of Google translator.
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Offline Purellum  
#2 Posted : 11 March 2022 21:22:45(UTC)
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Hello Dmitry Cool

I don't have this model myself; but I found the information you need, using Google BigGrin

The 5751 has 2 miniature can motors with bell-shaped armatures, mounted in the tender ( DC-motors )

The motor supply voltage should be good for normal operation, since it's build to run on a normal Märklin transformer.

https://www.micromacromu...Adler_DB_AG_The_Original

This can also be seen in this video, where the model is being made digital with a decoder, I believe it is a H0-decoder:



The same model also exists in a newer version, the manual for this shows you how to open the tender:

https://static.maerklin....25ecdde2541434542494.pdf

Another digital version:



Per.

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Offline kudrdima  
#3 Posted : 11 March 2022 21:40:13(UTC)
kudrdima

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Thank you, Per Aagren!

I also found some of the materials that you recommended. Smile

Here is another video about digitization, though the decoder is without sound:

Sincerely,
Dmitry Kudryashov.
P.S. Unfortunately, I do not speak English - I translated with the help of Google translator.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 11 March 2022 23:32:06(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: kudrdima Go to Quoted Post

Here is another video about digitization, though the decoder is without sound:


Wow, it is tiny beside an LGB mallet loco ... Drool

For most decoders these days the sound decoder is almost identical to a non-sound one. With a sound one the biggest problem is usually finding somewhere to put a speaker.

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Offline QQQ1970  
#5 Posted : 05 June 2022 06:09:46(UTC)
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How many motors in 5751?
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