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bgemski		#1 Posted : 01 March 2022 16:00:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Kinda of curious since I know I will be upgrading shortly or maybe waiting a bit. With that in mind I would like to pose a question. Not taking into account the chip shortage and logistical issues we all face today; do you think there will be a newer model of the control station coming out? Has there been any rumors or mention of a upgraded control station? I ask because it got me thinking that the system has been out for a few years now. Should I hold off? Curious on the thoughts of everyone. Thank you for your time and replies in advance.
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marklinist5999		#2 Posted : 01 March 2022 17:24:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,159 Location: Michigan, Troy		In the last digital webinar, both Curtis and Rick said they weren't aware of any plans from Marklin to replace the CS3's. They did mention that support from Marklin of updates for the CS2 may soon end, as it is rather long in the tooth. The CS3 is very versatile, and up to par with controllers from competitors. The only thing I would like is a larger screen, however with a web interface and app., you can use a larger tablet, or phone, or even laptop or a pc and monitor. Some have additional route control software in those other devices, which negate having to hardly use their CS3. Rocrail, etc. for example. The other computers run the layout automating. and the Cs3. The next advance in layout and train automation might even be virtual, but I don't think I'd like that much. Tangible models, structures, scenery, vehicles, etc. are just more, well, real.
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bgemski		#3 Posted : 01 March 2022 17:37:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		marklinist5999 Makes sense and I agree with what you are saying. I just wasn't so sure overall all since I had been out of the hobby so long. I figured if anyone would know it's this forum. When I do pull the trigger on this control station one thing, I was planning on was integrating a pc into the system. In the long run I figured it will make the overall layout more versatile.
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marklinist5999		#4 Posted : 01 March 2022 23:16:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,159 Location: Michigan, Troy		That it will do Brian! The CS3 is also memory expandable with it's integral slot. I got an MS2 first, but the screen is tiny. I don't keep my CS3 connected to the wyfi yet. It serves my needs, in fact surpasses them. Only 7 turnouts, 2 signals, one simple event thus far. I chose many structures and roads with vehicles over a large staging yard, so the route is a 4x8 ft. double oval with a station siding track, old German village with gate, court yard, fountain, Swiss village mountain with tunnel, and a 4 ft. double track bridge connecting the second 6-1/2x4 ft. section with a small branch line oval through town and an intermodal yard and steel mill each with a long spur yard track with end bumbers, and a short rolling road siding ramp. A train traveling at moderate speed takes a minute to travel the route. No digital booster. 2 M83 decoders and one S88 feedback module. I run 3 trains, and a ski lift on the CS3+ with no current or signal fade. It has a built in booster.
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dickinsonj		#5 Posted : 02 March 2022 01:01:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,690 Location: Crozet, Virginia		When I first started to consider upgrading from a CS2 to a CS3 I wondered when a newer version of the CS3 might appear. Over the years there were three different hardware versions of the CS2 after all. But Märklin made significant upgrades to the hardware when the CS3 was introduced and it probably won't be upgraded again for some time. All of the enhancements are currently being done in software and the CS3 has gained a lot of new functionality in the two years that I have owned mine. The CS2 certainly has been around for a long time and I applaud Märklin for continuing to update its software. At some point Märklin will stop supporting the CS2 but their history with that device makes me think that they are not done with it yet. I guess only time will tell.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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bgemski		#6 Posted : 02 March 2022 01:17:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 That it will do Brian! The CS3 is also memory expandable with it's integral slot. I got an MS2 first, but the screen is tiny. I don't keep my CS3 connected to the wyfi yet. It serves my needs, in fact surpasses them. Only 7 turnouts, 2 signals, one simple event thus far. I chose many structures and roads with vehicles over a large staging yard, so the route is a 4x8 ft. double oval with a station siding track, old German village with gate, court yard, fountain, Swiss village mountain with tunnel, and a 4 ft. double track bridge connecting the second 6-1/2x4 ft. section with a small branch line oval through town and an intermodal yard and steel mill each with a long spur yard track with end bumbers, and a short rolling road siding ramp. A train traveling at moderate speed takes a minute to travel the route. No digital booster. 2 M83 decoders and one S88 feedback module. I run 3 trains, and a ski lift on the CS3+ with no current or signal fade. It has a built in booster. I like the sound of your lay out! I am currently in the first stage of planning, but I am fortunate that I have a room that's 12 x 13 maybe 14 if I push it. I know that my want is a turn table at the minimum, with a small staging yard. I am figuring a small-town area, but I really need a mid-size station for passenger travel. I won't go to a cs 2 but definitely a cs3 or 3 plus. The cs2 i feel is probably more than capable I would rather invest into more recent technology.
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bgemski		#7 Posted : 02 March 2022 01:22:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: dickinsonj When I first started to consider upgrading from a CS2 to a CS3 I wondered when a newer version of the CS3 might appear. Over the years there were three different hardware versions of the CS2 after all. But Märklin made significant upgrades to the hardware when the CS3 was introduced and it probably won't be upgraded again for some time. All of the enhancements are currently being done in software and the CS3 has gained a lot of new functionality in the two years that I have owned mine. The CS2 certainly has been around for a long time and I applaud Märklin for continuing to update its software. At some point Märklin will stop supporting the CS2 but their history with that device makes me think that they are not done with it yet. I guess only time will tell. That is also how I was looking at this situation as well. I feel it would be stepping back a little too far. Plus, I am really intrigued with integrating a PC into the layout. Truly the color screen with touch capabilities on the CS3/ 3+ is a huge step forward. Thanks guys you have put my mind at ease with purchasing the CS3! Now back to the track plan!
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marklinist5999		#8 Posted : 02 March 2022 13:44:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,159 Location: Michigan, Troy		Thank you Brian! There are some pics and a video reel on I.G. under Marklin 35489 I have difficulty uploading on here. I have one of the bridge before the valley was done.
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JohnjeanB		#9 Posted : 02 March 2022 13:55:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,145 Location: Paris, France		Hi BGEMSKI (funny first name!) Märklin history CU 6020 introduced in 1985 - MM (Motorola 1) protocol CU 6021 introduced in 1995 (not sure here)- new MM2 protocol CS1 (60212) introduced in 2004. MFX protocol, The design made by ESU was terminated early because of a contract dispute with Märklin CS2 (60213 - 60215) introduced in 2008, until 2016 CS3 (60216 , 60226) introduced in 2016. Replacement caused by unavailability of some components on the CS2 and lack of processing power So unless there is a big issue, replacement should come around 2024. Märklin are still developing the present CS3 software and probably starting to work on the new CS replacement. Just my opinion Cheers Jean
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rhfil		#10 Posted : 02 March 2022 17:12:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 427 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE, Somersworth		I think/hope that the architecture of the CS3/+ was created with enough flexibility to allow updates and expansions which will preclude the need to replace it with an entirely new controller.
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kiwiAlan		#11 Posted : 02 March 2022 18:16:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,111 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: rhfil I think/hope that the architecture of the CS3/+ was created with enough flexibility to allow updates and expansions which will preclude the need to replace it with an entirely new controller. it was designed with a multicore processor (where the cs2 has a single core processor) which is part of the reason it is so much faster than the cs2. But what will eventually nobble it (and will happen to the cs2 as well) is the amount of 'disk space' it has for software upgrades. I don't know how much free space is available, but that will likely be the archilles heel as more features are programmed into it. So when they do get to replace the cs3 I would expect a larger 'disk space' using a larger or multiple memory chips as the primary upgrade, a faster multicore processor, and probably a larger screen to allow larger layout diagrams. From this point of view it may also have an HDMI port to attach an external monitor. I use the term 'disk space' advisedly, as all the cs units (including the cs1) have Linux as an embedded operating system, using semiconductor memory as disk space, in a similar manner to SSD drives on PCs. This will become the major limiting factor in causing the decision to design new hardware.
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Eurobahnfan		#12 Posted : 02 March 2022 22:50:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 411 Location: Stockton, CA		I'll probably never have a layout large enough to justify the expense of a CS3/3+, as my MS2 serves my needs just fine. What concerns me is will there ever come a time when previous generations of decoders are no longer recognized, forcing operators to upgrade or simply buy newer loks?
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JohnjeanB		#13 Posted : 03 March 2022 00:43:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,145 Location: Paris, France		Originally Posted by: Eurobahnfan I'll probably never have a layout large enough to justify the expense of a CS3/3+, as my MS2 serves my needs just fine. What concerns me is will there ever come a time when previous generations of decoders are no longer recognized, forcing operators to upgrade or simply buy newer loks? Hi This would be totally against Märklin's way of delivering upwards compatibility. I have got all decoder and Central Units, Central Station (6020, 6021, 60212, 60213, 60215, 60226) and no decoder was made incompatible. There are 2 exceptions I know: - when Märklin launched a digital version for 2 rails around 1986. This Central Unit was a flop and was abandoned - when Märklin asked ESU to develop its new CS1 (60212) that ended up in a commercial dispute and a stop in developments (around 2005 I think). So in short, I don't have any example of a Märklin product being abandoned and made incompatible with future developments: I can still drive my very first digital locos and accessories from 1985. Same for feed-back modules S88 still connectable to the CS3 using the Link88 Cheers Jean
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bgemski		#14 Posted : 03 March 2022 00:53:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		I thought I read or heard that the system is Linux based which really makes sense, it’s really built in longevity. Especially as compared to windows based machines. I knew exactly how the term disc spaced was being implied here. I do enjoy the “compatibility with the digital protocols in all the locomotives that is made by Marklin. I did forget about the sd slot to expand the memory on the control station. This system actually reminds me of the Nikon F mount or bayonet mount system on their cameras. I hadn’t realized the cs3 had been released in 2016, heck when I unpacked all my Marklin my 6021 was still working ok which really surprised me to be honest. Thank you all for taking the time and not only easing my overthinking mind on this next purchase but educating me some stuff I truly had not known. Hats off and thank you all for bringing me up to speed.
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Eurobahnfan		#15 Posted : 03 March 2022 05:12:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 411 Location: Stockton, CA		I'm still able to operate all of my 34XX and 37XX locos as well, so for now, I'm happy. (I've got a separate loop just for my old-school analog loks as well.) I trust Maerklin to look at forward and backward compatibility when it comes to newer control systems (unlike another manufacturer of another scale I'm no longer interested in). I've still got a 6021 just in case ;)
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bgemski		#16 Posted : 03 March 2022 06:00:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: Eurobahnfan I'm still able to operate all of my 34XX and 37XX locos as well, so for now, I'm happy. (I've got a separate loop just for my old-school analog loks as well.) I trust Maerklin to look at forward and backward compatibility when it comes to newer control systems (unlike another manufacturer of another scale I'm no longer interested in). I've still got a 6021 just in case ;) We think alike I plan on putting in a small loop for my analog locomotives. Yes I could make them digital however I like to keep things as I have bought them, stock. There maybe one or possible two I may switch over. One other addition I was planning was doing a separate dc loop for a logging loop, small one loco and a few cars. I always liked the Heisler locomotives, plus I have one my father gave me years ago that I would like to see run again in his memory.
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Goofy		#17 Posted : 03 March 2022 06:19:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,023		There is pro and con with the CS3. I believe the system are override and are expensive too. The CS3 are more comfort to use for large layout. It depends if you feel good to start use CS3 and to expand your layout the CS3 are good idea to use it.
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marklinist5999		#18 Posted : 03 March 2022 14:39:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,159 Location: Michigan, Troy		Originally Posted by: bgemski Originally Posted by: Eurobahnfan I'm still able to operate all of my 34XX and 37XX locos as well, so for now, I'm happy. (I've got a separate loop just for my old-school analog loks as well.) I trust Maerklin to look at forward and backward compatibility when it comes to newer control systems (unlike another manufacturer of another scale I'm no longer interested in). I've still got a 6021 just in case ;) We think alike I plan on putting in a small loop for my analog locomotives. Yes I could make them digital however I like to keep things as I have bought them, stock. There maybe one or possible two I may switch over. One other addition I was planning was doing a separate dc loop for a logging loop, small one loco and a few cars. I always liked the Heisler locomotives, plus I have one my father gave me years ago that I would like to see run again in his memory. Yes, I have an outside DC analog oval on the 4x8. I bought a few Hammo Locos. and some Roco, wtc. DC models first. I still have an older Marklin transformer in case I want to use it alone, or with my 6021 controller for re-programming or changing the address on Locos. without dip switches that are the older Motorola format decoders
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bgemski		#19 Posted : 03 March 2022 15:26:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Originally Posted by: bgemski Originally Posted by: Eurobahnfan I'm still able to operate all of my 34XX and 37XX locos as well, so for now, I'm happy. (I've got a separate loop just for my old-school analog loks as well.) I trust Maerklin to look at forward and backward compatibility when it comes to newer control systems (unlike another manufacturer of another scale I'm no longer interested in). I've still got a 6021 just in case ;) We think alike I plan on putting in a small loop for my analog locomotives. Yes I could make them digital however I like to keep things as I have bought them, stock. There maybe one or possible two I may switch over. One other addition I was planning was doing a separate dc loop for a logging loop, small one loco and a few cars. I always liked the Heisler locomotives, plus I have one my father gave me years ago that I would like to see run again in his memory. Yes, I have an outside DC analog oval on the 4x8. I bought a few Hammo Locos. and some Roco, wtc. DC models first. I still have an older Marklin transformer in case I want to use it alone, or with my 6021 controller for re-programming or changing the address on Locos. without dip switches that are the older Motorola format decoders I really liked you Instagram feed and the layout looks great! I am amazed that we are all thinking alike this is so cool! The dc loop/side line came to me as I found my old Heisler 3 truck logging loco mixed in with all my Marklin. I will most likely keep the 6021 set I have for testing and messing around with later on after I have the main layout set up. At first, I was going to just go with the CS3 but the more I research and watch youtube videos I have come to the conclusion that the CS3 + is the better way to go. Now I really can't wait to get the ball rolling and finalize my track plan. Thank you guys!
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bgemski		#20 Posted : 03 March 2022 15:32:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Hi BGEMSKI (funny first name!) Märklin history CU 6020 introduced in 1985 - MM (Motorola 1) protocol CU 6021 introduced in 1995 (not sure here)- new MM2 protocol CS1 (60212) introduced in 2004. MFX protocol, The design made by ESU was terminated early because of a contract dispute with Märklin CS2 (60213 - 60215) introduced in 2008, until 2016 CS3 (60216 , 60226) introduced in 2016. Replacement caused by unavailability of some components on the CS2 and lack of processing power So unless there is a big issue, replacement should come around 2024. Märklin are still developing the present CS3 software and probably starting to work on the new CS replacement. Just my opinion Cheers Jean Hi Jean, Thank you for the timeline, I wasn't aware of how everything fell into place. I believe right before the CS 2 came out is when I had to pack everything up do to moving and a huge job change. I always found information like this really interesting and useful to be honest. Yeah my first name is actually Brian but everyone for some reason over the years shortened it to simply B so it kinda stuck LOL. The last place where I worked at there were 4 Brians! All on one shift and things would get really confusing!
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H0		#21 Posted : 03 March 2022 16:22:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,272 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB So unless there is a big issue, replacement should come around 2024. Maybe give or take a year or two. A change may come when Märklin can no longer acquire essential components of the CS3 and have to move on to a different processor type or display type. Or when Märklin want to implement new features that require more processor power, more memory, or more of other hardware resources. I think the availability of hardware will make a new generation necessary one day. I don't have a guess of my own, but 2024 sounds reasonable. Usually Goofy is the first to say that a new Central Station is coming soon. So it seems the CS3 will remain in the catalogue for a considerable amount of time.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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petestra		#22 Posted : 03 March 2022 17:50:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,835 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA		Hello. I just received and watched the youtube video Re; the new CS3 update 2.4.0. I plugged it all up and no red check mark to see. Anyone else have this happen too? Peter.
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roberts		#23 Posted : 03 March 2022 18:19:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/05/2020(UTC) Posts: 54 Location: Göteborg		Originally Posted by: petestra Hello. I just received and watched the youtube video Re; the new CS3 update 2.4.0. I plugged it all up and no red check mark to see. Anyone else have this happen too? Peter. It says in the comments that only the website download is active at the moment. I guess the direct update from the CS3 will be activated soon.
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petestra		#24 Posted : 03 March 2022 18:41:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,835 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA		Originally Posted by: roberts Originally Posted by: petestra Hello. I just received and watched the youtube video Re; the new CS3 update 2.4.0. I plugged it all up and no red check mark to see. Anyone else have this happen too? Peter. It says in the comments that only the website download is active at the moment. I guess the direct update from the CS3 will be activated soon. Thanks for that news. Cheers! Peter.
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kiwiAlan		#25 Posted : 03 March 2022 19:47:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,111 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: bgemski I thought I read or heard that the system is Linux based Well, I said it about three posts before yours. You can open an update file from a Linux machine and probe around the files in it. I forget which file system it is, but I have definitely opened the download for a USB stick. But the other thing to remember is that the embedded Linux system is just the overall controller and providing the display smarts. It is the conductor keeping all the other bits in line. There is code for other portions of hardware, such as the GFP (Gleis Format Processor, i.e. the booster portion of the cs3 as) and the handler for the s88 system. There are download files for a significant number of peripherals, to update them as needed to correct bugs and add new features. And as to someones query about getting a the file system, no you cannot, that is well locked down, unless you have a means of cracking the passwords. All the FTP and other network methods of accessing the file system is turned off. All the update operations are initiated by the cs3, you cannot initiate an update over the network connection. If you cannot get at it through the cs3 internal web server it is locked down.
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bgemski		#26 Posted : 03 March 2022 20:23:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: bgemski I thought I read or heard that the system is Linux based Well, I said it about three posts before yours. You can open an update file from a Linux machine and probe around the files in it. I forget which file system it is, but I have definitely opened the download for a USB stick. But the other thing to remember is that the embedded Linux system is just the overall controller and providing the display smarts. It is the conductor keeping all the other bits in line. There is code for other portions of hardware, such as the GFP (Gleis Format Processor, i.e. the booster portion of the cs3 as) and the handler for the s88 system. There are download files for a significant number of peripherals, to update them as needed to correct bugs and add new features. And as to someones query about getting a the file system, no you cannot, that is well locked down, unless you have a means of cracking the passwords. All the FTP and other network methods of accessing the file system is turned off. All the update operations are initiated by the cs3, you cannot initiate an update over the network connection. If you cannot get at it through the cs3 internal web server it is locked down. Yes, sorry I should have noted that you posted that. What I did mean in my statement was I had heard of the cs3 being Linux based beforte I started the conversation However, I was not 100% sure that my memory was correct. So, there is no way at all to "hack" the core software system at all? Kinda makes sense in the long run actually.
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roberts		#27 Posted : 03 March 2022 22:06:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/05/2020(UTC) Posts: 54 Location: Göteborg		Originally Posted by: petestra Originally Posted by: roberts Originally Posted by: petestra Hello. I just received and watched the youtube video Re; the new CS3 update 2.4.0. I plugged it all up and no red check mark to see. Anyone else have this happen too? Peter. It says in the comments that only the website download is active at the moment. I guess the direct update from the CS3 will be activated soon. Thanks for that news. Cheers! Peter. Looks like it’s working now.
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petestra		#28 Posted : 03 March 2022 22:09:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,835 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA		Originally Posted by: roberts Originally Posted by: petestra Originally Posted by: roberts Originally Posted by: petestra Hello. I just received and watched the youtube video Re; the new CS3 update 2.4.0. I plugged it all up and no red check mark to see. Anyone else have this happen too? Peter. It says in the comments that only the website download is active at the moment. I guess the direct update from the CS3 will be activated soon. Thanks for that news. Cheers! Peter. Looks like it’s working now. Thanks a lot, Robert. Peter.
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Copenhagen		#29 Posted : 04 March 2022 00:07:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 379 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		There is a German speaking video on the update. Some nice, new features. https://m.youtube.com/wa...amp;feature=emb_imp_woyt
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bgemski		#30 Posted : 04 March 2022 01:15:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		I will check out the video, gotta love YouTube
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bgemski		#31 Posted : 16 March 2022 02:09:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Today I ordered the CS3 Plus from AJCKIDS! I really can’t wait for it to land on my doorstep! Thank you all for the information. I had better get some finalized track plans down!
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kiwiAlan		#32 Posted : 16 March 2022 13:11:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,111 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: bgemski Today I ordered the CS3 Plus from AJCKIDS! I really can’t wait for it to land on my doorstep! Thank you all for the information. I had better get some finalized track plans down! Unless they have stock be aware that it is likely to take quite some time to arrive due to worldwide component shortages.
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petestra		#33 Posted : 16 March 2022 13:15:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 5,835 Location: Leesburg,VA.USA		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: bgemski Today I ordered the CS3 Plus from AJCKIDS! I really can’t wait for it to land on my doorstep! Thank you all for the information. I had better get some finalized track plans down! Unless they have stock be aware that it is likely to take quite some time to arrive due to worldwide component shortages. I have been using these great folks for a few years now. Their website shows both CS3s in stock. Enjoy it. Peter. PS - when you get it, don't forget to check for updates on it.
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bgemski		#34 Posted : 16 March 2022 14:21:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		petestra Good Morning yes I agree 100 % I have bought from AJC in the past and they are simply the best. No issues ever. Matter of fact I already have the shipped email stating that it should be on my doorstep this Friday. The first thing I will be doing is the updates. I have been reading up on the manual online and watching YouTube videos already to get acquainted beforehand.
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marklinist5999		#35 Posted : 16 March 2022 14:47:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,159 Location: Michigan, Troy		Yes, I got my CS3+ from them as well!
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bgemski		#36 Posted : 17 March 2022 01:37:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: bgemski Today I ordered the CS3 Plus from AJCKIDS! I really can’t wait for it to land on my doorstep! Thank you all for the information. I had better get some finalized track plans down! Unless they have stock be aware that it is likely to take quite some time to arrive due to worldwide component shortages. Yes they do have stock, that is why I pulled the trigger as soon as I saw that they did. My profession computer integration has taught me that this market for the past two years and into the foreseeable future is restrained. And that is being conservative. See we build custom systems for specific clients, in quantities of hundreds but this market has made it very difficult. At one point we sourced specific ic chips that are in the shortage. Needless to say we got very lucky, yes we paid more however it was worth it in the overall picture. Right now any custom motherboard builds are minimum 6 months to our facility. Some specific models a year wait. Where as before maybe a month at the longest. Honestly I was very surprised to see that they had stock and the price was very fair considering the situation we are in. That was also the driving force, seeing it, heck buy it, no waiting to decide, in case its missed opportunity. Friday is what the tracking from UPS is saying to my door.
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Goofy		#37 Posted : 17 March 2022 06:30:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,023		Both CS3/CS3+ shows in yellow dot and are not in stock.
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Bigdaddynz		#38 Posted : 17 March 2022 09:37:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,669 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Goofy Both CS3/CS3+ shows in yellow dot and are not in stock. What you talking about, Willis?? The CS3/CS3+ plus may be out of stock at Marklin but we are not talking about Marklin..... We are talking about AJCKids, a US Marklin dealer....
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dickinsonj		#39 Posted : 17 March 2022 13:34:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,690 Location: Crozet, Virginia		AJCKids shows both the 60216 and 60226 in stock, regardless of the status in the Märklin store.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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bgemski		#40 Posted : 17 March 2022 14:30:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Yes AJC does have stock still most other online stores don't or listed as backorder. Unfortunately I feel that the current surge of Covid in Asia things will be getting dicey again. Some of the suppliers we deal with are reporting longer and longer wait times for motherboards. In our case, its the TPM chips that's holding up our production of computer motherboards. Of course stoppages and shortages will have a ripple effect across the all industries related to electronics as a whole.
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bgemski		#41 Posted : 18 March 2022 14:19:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		One thing that has popped up in watching YouTube videos and reading this thread and others is two more things. 1. Has anyone used the SD slot for memory expansion? I do have a 32 gb card I will dedicate for use in my unit if needed. 2. Mouse? Keyboard? Stylus Pen, or just plain old human fingers? I have heard all kinds of varying thoughts on this, what are you guys using? I am currently taking the wait and see approach.
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Copenhagen		#42 Posted : 18 March 2022 14:38:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 379 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		I think the CS3 has enough memory to store lots of locomotives and other stuff before needing more memory. But others will probably chime in with more info on this. Using a USB thumb drive to backup data is a good idea (like when you have created an elaborate track plan). I use both fingers and a USB mouse. It works great. Some computer mice may not work with the unit and depending on the way you shut down and turn on the CS3 you may have to unplug and replug the mouse to get it to work.
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marklinist5999		#43 Posted : 18 March 2022 15:06:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,159 Location: Michigan, Troy		It does indeed, with an additional memory card slot as well!
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JohnjeanB		#44 Posted : 18 March 2022 17:01:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,145 Location: Paris, France		Originally Posted by: bgemski One thing that has popped up in watching YouTube videos and reading this thread and others is two more things. 1. Has anyone used the SD slot for memory expansion? I do have a 32 gb card I will dedicate for use in my unit if needed. 2. Mouse? Keyboard? Stylus Pen, or just plain old human fingers? I have heard all kinds of varying thoughts on this, what are you guys using? I am currently taking the wait and see approach. Hi Brian I am using a 32 gByte memory with my CS3 and its working fine. Serves to store previous configurations ("Backups") and also local sound that I can play with events (Church bells, sound of loading coal in tenders, etc). I prefer the combination 60226+Link86 (60883) as it allows to develop the sensor cables in 3 directions: Bus 1 & 2 with shielded Ethernet cables and Bus 3 with the old flat cable 6088 and 60880 Mouse connection works fine Keyboard connection not really great as it knows only a German keyboard so the keys are not where you think they are. Besides it is of little use. Cheers Jean
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Goofy		#45 Posted : 18 March 2022 18:53:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,023		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: Goofy Both CS3/CS3+ shows in yellow dot and are not in stock. What you talking about, Willis?? The CS3/CS3+ plus may be out of stock at Marklin but we are not talking about Marklin..... We are talking about AJCKids, a US Marklin dealer.... Relax Jolie! I know that. I am just telling that in the hobby store Märklin CS3 empty fast. If i think right it will take months before customer can get a new CS3/CS3+.
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Copenhagen		#46 Posted : 18 March 2022 21:18:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/04/2019(UTC) Posts: 379 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark		By the way, I hope bgemski also ordered the power supply needed for the CS3, as it's not included in the package.
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bgemski		#47 Posted : 18 March 2022 22:02:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: Copenhagen By the way, I hope bgemski also ordered the power supply needed for the CS3, as it's not included in the package. The power supply is orded as well I made sure of that
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dickinsonj		#48 Posted : 19 March 2022 00:22:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,690 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: bgemski The power supply is ordered as well I made sure of that And if you hadn't, I bet Guy would have sorted it out. As he said to me once, I am actually your dealer, not just some eBay seller. He has proven that every time that I've had a problem. with quality service and very fair shipping prices.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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bgemski		#49 Posted : 19 March 2022 00:27:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: bgemski The power supply is ordered as well I made sure of that And if you hadn't, I bet Guy would have sorted it out. As he said to me once, I am actually your dealer, not just some eBay seller. He has proven that every time that I've had a problem. with quality service and very fair shipping prices. That is why I always go back to him, it is always a pleasure to do business with them. I truly enjoy the personal handwritten notes on the receipts. Truly great place to shop!
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bgemski		#50 Posted : 19 March 2022 00:31:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 168 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Originally Posted by: JohnjeanB Originally Posted by: bgemski One thing that has popped up in watching YouTube videos and reading this thread and others is two more things. 1. Has anyone used the SD slot for memory expansion? I do have a 32 gb card I will dedicate for use in my unit if needed. 2. Mouse? Keyboard? Stylus Pen, or just plain old human fingers? I have heard all kinds of varying thoughts on this, what are you guys using? I am currently taking the wait and see approach. Hi Brian I am using a 32 gByte memory with my CS3 and its working fine. Serves to store previous configurations ("Backups") and also local sound that I can play with events (Church bells, sound of loading coal in tenders, etc). I prefer the combination 60226+Link86 (60883) as it allows to develop the sensor cables in 3 directions: Bus 1 & 2 with shielded Ethernet cables and Bus 3 with the old flat cable 6088 and 60880 Mouse connection works fine Keyboard connection not really great as it knows only a German keyboard so the keys are not where you think they are. Besides it is of little use. Cheers Jean Excellent information, I thank you Sir. I had heard that about the keyboard. At most I'll use the mouse if needed. The little I used it just now I don't think the mouse may be needed, yet. I did hear that it may actually be easier to use a mouse when doing the track diagram.
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