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Offline fosuna  
#1 Posted : 28 April 2021 13:52:06(UTC)
fosuna

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Hi everybody!

I've just bought the passenger car set with a control cab Märklin 43146. It consists of 3 "Thunder Boxes" cars and a passenger train baggage car with a cab. They were in service around the mid 1950s.

As they come without any indication of a route board, anyone knows any real routes and services they did?

I would also appreciate references and links to websites with related information.

Thank you in advance. Have all a nice day.

Francisco
Offline Alsterstreek  
#2 Posted : 28 April 2021 17:02:00(UTC)
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The green Donnerbuechsen push-pull train operated between Munich and Deisenhofen in 1957 and 1958.
1958M.jpg
Unlike the Maerklin example (class 74), the locomotive used in Munich was a class 38.10 steamer.

https://db58.de/2015/01/...nach-deisenhofen-p-3601/

P.S.: Not to be mistaken for the red Donnerbuechsen push-pull train (Art.Nr. 26577) powered by a V 36.2 diesel locomotive, which operated 1950-1959 around Wuppertal and Cologne.
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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 28 April 2021 17:13:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
The green Donnerbuechsen push-pull train operated between Munich and Deisenhofen in 1957 and 1958.
Interesting train, but I do not see Donnerbüchsen - there are three-axle Umbauwagen instead.
The Pwif is listed for '57 only, there is a four-axle coach listed for '58.

The Märklin coaches still have 3rd class, so they timeframe is 1956 and earlier. It asks for a loco with double headlights.
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Tom
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#4 Posted : 28 April 2021 17:30:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Interesting train, but I do not see Donnerbüchsen - there are three-axle Umbauwagen instead.
The Pwif is listed for '57 only, there is a four-axle coach listed for '58.
True, I was too much focusing on the exotic Pwif...
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#5 Posted : 28 April 2021 17:51:39(UTC)
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Another 1954 example with V36 diesel, 1st and 2nd class Donnerbuechsen and Pwif (all cars in green livery):

https://www.dhuenntalbah...ugbildung/v36-wendezuege
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#6 Posted : 28 April 2021 19:09:25(UTC)
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I forgot to mention the location: Nordenham, a town in Lower Saxony, Germany, located at the mouth (on the west bank) of the Weser river, opposite of the seaport city of Bremerhaven.

https://www.dhuenntalbah...gbildung/v36-wendezuege/
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Offline fosuna  
#7 Posted : 28 April 2021 19:22:25(UTC)
fosuna

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Thank you very much Alsterstreek and H0 (Tom) for your replys!

Very interesting your posts.

To Alsterstreek, it is great your link to the "Die Dhünntalbahn" website. It has a lot of interesting information.

But, it is possible to know the route of the E 935 train?

Greetings,

Francisco
Offline Alsterstreek  
#8 Posted : 28 April 2021 23:46:53(UTC)
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Nordenham is on the (Bremen-)Hude-Nordenham-Blexen (ferry to Bremerhaven) railway line. After WW2 and until the early 1990s the timetable 221r applied.
F0FD0604-6968-4CB2-BEC0-EFD63D6F08AB.jpeg

I only found a 1961/1962 timetable which did not list this Eilzug anymore (but others):
http://www.reins-muh.de/...ahn/fahrplan_1961_62.htm
I reckon it was a Bremen-Nordenham(-Blexen) connection.
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