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Offline Ricinport  
#1 Posted : 25 January 2021 16:49:13(UTC)
Ricinport

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I've just received a pack of three coaches - Marklin Mini-Club 87931.

They have an unusual coupling. Nothing like the 'hooks' on all of the models I've purchased so far (new and second hand).

These couplings are metallic in the shape of a 'Y'.
They have to be manually connected and the 3 will link together but I can't see how I now couple them to the two loco's I have purchased (one of which is quite old but the other brand new).

Any help appreciated.
Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 25 January 2021 17:00:07(UTC)
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These coaches are an add-on for the #88731 powered railcar. They are not meant to be used with regular locos.
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Offline Ricinport  
#3 Posted : 25 January 2021 17:02:39(UTC)
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Thanks Tom @HO

Looks like I'll be searching for a #88731 then. It's a shame the difference isn't highlighted. I've since learned a lot about couplers. You live and learn.

http://www.zscale.org/articles/couplers.html

Offline Carim  
#4 Posted : 25 January 2021 17:08:11(UTC)
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It looks like you have bought the extension set for the Br 601 DMU (88731).

Carim

p.s. It seems that you've already worked that out.
Offline Ricinport  
#5 Posted : 25 January 2021 17:10:06(UTC)
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@Carim
Yes, possibly an expensive mistake. Is the 88731 the only locomotive that is compatible with these coaches?
I have no problem purchasing one but can see it being tricky sourcing one.
Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 25 January 2021 17:13:27(UTC)
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There are several models of the VT 11.5 in TEE livery, but #88731 is a slightly different livery as used by DR. Mixing DR coaches into a DB train is probably without prototype, but I would assume that couplers will fit.
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Offline Ricinport  
#7 Posted : 25 January 2021 17:29:43(UTC)
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@HO
I'm not a purist (and I wouldn't see the difference between DR and DB anyway) so anything with the matching coupling to pull them will suffice for me.
Offline Roland  
#8 Posted : 25 January 2021 17:33:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ricinport Go to Quoted Post
Yes, possibly an expensive mistake. Is the 88731 the only locomotive that is compatible with these coaches?


I'm not familiar with Marklin Z, is it possible to swap the couplers? Might be a lot less expensive than buying that specific locomotive.
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Offline Ricinport  
#9 Posted : 25 January 2021 17:41:47(UTC)
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@Roland

I'm new to this myself, hence the mistaken purchase I suppose.

I'm up for the challenge though. Plenty of lockdown time on my hands currently.

My preference will be to source a compatible loco.
It seems to be fairly complex inside these carriages. The couplers transmit current and it looks like all coaches light up with multiple lights. It would be impressive.

Failing that I'll have to try and convert one.
Offline Carim  
#10 Posted : 25 January 2021 18:48:37(UTC)
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I don't have this model at I don't model the era, but here is a link regarding the prototype https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB-Baureihe_VT_11.5

The coaches for this unit are much shorter than conventional coaches. The Märklin couplers are current conducting ones that link much higher up on the coaches than conventional couplers do and, if their models of the ICE-X and ICE3 are anything to go by, are very delicate.

Carim
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Offline husafreak  
#11 Posted : 29 January 2021 16:07:10(UTC)
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Offline husafreak  
#12 Posted : 29 January 2021 16:10:34(UTC)
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Offline husafreak  
#13 Posted : 29 January 2021 16:16:10(UTC)
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There's another set (8873) as well on fleabay US and cheaper but it is old, used, modified, and missing parts. So old that I am not sure what couplings it uses. Well, that's it for the expensive solutions! If you decide to do something like this, the only source is the US, and they won't ship, PM me and maybe I can help. I like ztrack resale very much, never disappointed with them, but ebay is another matter.
Offline Ricinport  
#14 Posted : 30 January 2021 17:09:33(UTC)
Ricinport

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Thanks for the links @husafreak.

I've come across the 8871 set a lot. The couplings look very similar.
The prices seem a little more reasonable.

Can anyone confirm if the 8871 set is compatible with the 87931 coaches coupling?



https://www.ebay.es/itm/...e8fd2:g:V7YAAOSw3Ghf-F2c

https://www.ebay.es/itm/...269ce:g:C7kAAOSwsm5f-JHP

https://www.ebay.es/itm/...adf74:g:e3IAAOSwu3FgCBOR

Offline Bill Dickson  
#15 Posted : 31 January 2021 18:59:37(UTC)
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Try https://www.ebay.co.uk/i...og-OVP-I79-/383829846878
This is the correct set for the coaches.
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