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Offline 2fingers  
#1 Posted : 22 October 2020 20:46:29(UTC)
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Time to start wondering/dreaming about next years surprises
Anyone knows when the insider items will be announced Its usually early November

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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 22 October 2020 20:51:28(UTC)
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Anyone knows when the insider items will be announced Its usually early November
They would have been revealed at the IMA 2020 (Oct. 30 through Nov. 1). But it was postponed to 2021.

Maybe Märklin will reveal the models on that weekend.
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Offline vilithejou  
#3 Posted : 23 October 2020 06:21:25(UTC)
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The last year 27 november....

We have a month to dream! :-)
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Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 23 October 2020 10:18:56(UTC)
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The last year 27 november....
Last year the IMA was September 13 through 15 and the model was announced independently from the IMA.

IIRC the IMA was not postponed before and time will tell how Märklin deal with this case.
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Offline IanC  
#5 Posted : 23 October 2020 12:19:48(UTC)
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Nurnberg Spielwaren Messe aka Nurenberg Toy Fair has also been postponed from February which is where most of the new stuff is announced and the years catalogues launched so it will be interesting to see what and when we will be encouraged to place our orders for 2021.
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#6 Posted : 23 October 2020 14:19:23(UTC)
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Nurnberg Spielwaren Messe aka Nurenberg Toy Fair has also been postponed from February which is where most of the new stuff is announced and the years catalogues launched so it will be interesting to see what and when we will be encouraged to place our orders for 2021.


I suspect the NI brochures will still come out early to mid-January like they have other years.

The Insider items were normally announced in time for the Cologne IMA show which was mid- to late November, on the years that it was held, and around the same time on alternate years when it wasn't.

The Museum wagon is normally announced slightly later at a ceremony at the Marklineum.

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Offline jerkel  
#7 Posted : 29 October 2020 07:17:00(UTC)
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Here the last announcement dates:

27.11.2019 - Insider 2020
15.11.2018 - Insider 2019
28.11.2017 - Insider 2018
17.11.2016 - Insider 2017
27.11.2015 - Insider 2016
20.11.2014 - Insider 2015

I think we will see the Insider 2021 model around 18.11.2020.

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Offline vilithejou  
#8 Posted : 29 October 2020 07:35:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jerkel Go to Quoted Post
Here the last announcement dates:

27.11.2019 - Insider 2020
15.11.2018 - Insider 2019
28.11.2017 - Insider 2018
17.11.2016 - Insider 2017
27.11.2015 - Insider 2016
20.11.2014 - Insider 2015

I think we will see the Insider 2021 model around 18.11.2020.

best regards, Jörg


Years 2019/2017/2015 Koln Messe IMA
Years 2020/2018/2016 With Insider news 06 of the year

In exceptionel year.. we will see

Many Thanks!




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Offline vilithejou  
#9 Posted : 17 November 2020 07:18:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jerkel Go to Quoted Post
Here the last announcement dates:

27.11.2019 - Insider 2020
15.11.2018 - Insider 2019
28.11.2017 - Insider 2018
17.11.2016 - Insider 2017
27.11.2015 - Insider 2016
20.11.2014 - Insider 2015

I think we will see the Insider 2021 model around 18.11.2020.

best regards, Jörg


Tomorrow is the date BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

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Offline foumaro  
#10 Posted : 17 November 2020 13:13:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jerkel Go to Quoted Post
Here the last announcement dates:

27.11.2019 - Insider 2020
15.11.2018 - Insider 2019
28.11.2017 - Insider 2018
17.11.2016 - Insider 2017
27.11.2015 - Insider 2016
20.11.2014 - Insider 2015

I think we will see the Insider 2021 model around 18.11.2020.

best regards, Jörg


Tomorrow is the date BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin



You know something i have to say.But you not tell to us.
Offline jerkel  
#11 Posted : 17 November 2020 13:21:41(UTC)
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He told us: Tomorrow we will see theInsider Models 2021. This information is right.

best regards, Jörg
best regards, Jörg
Offline jerkel  
#12 Posted : 17 November 2020 18:01:54(UTC)
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Just got new information: Official date for insider models 2021 ist 30.11.2020
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Offline vilithejou  
#13 Posted : 17 November 2020 18:53:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jerkel Go to Quoted Post
Just got new information: Official date for insider models 2021 ist 30.11.2020


in 48 hours you will know the Insider modell 2021 :-)




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Offline jerkel  
#14 Posted : 17 November 2020 19:09:57(UTC)
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Yes, someone will not hear to "blocked for publication until November 30th, 2020" ;-)
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Offline vilithejou  
#15 Posted : 17 November 2020 19:15:24(UTC)
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Yes, someone will not hear to "blocked for publication until November 30th, 2020" ;-)



My dealer says that on 19th at 16:00 hours we can know the Insider Modell 2021
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Offline ktsolias  
#16 Posted : 17 November 2020 20:31:11(UTC)
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And the Insider Model 2021 is...

E.. in metal for the first time
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#17 Posted : 17 November 2020 21:36:06(UTC)
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And the Insider Model 2021 is...

E.. in metal for the first time


I have 97 locomotives in my collection,all metal exept one, EP5 electric.
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Offline ktsolias  
#18 Posted : 18 November 2020 08:43:33(UTC)
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The indsider model 2021 is

E44.5

New tooling full metal with 29 functions.

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Offline rbonet  
#19 Posted : 18 November 2020 13:51:04(UTC)
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#20 Posted : 18 November 2020 17:15:51(UTC)
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https://www.facebook.com/521376144598294/posts/3436685173067362/


Hmm, quite like that lot, and a different coach set to usual. Wonder what the pricing will be Blink Crying

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#21 Posted : 18 November 2020 21:47:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rbonet Go to Quoted Post
https://www.facebook.com/521376144598294/posts/3436685173067362/


Hmm, quite like that lot, and a different coach set to usual. Wonder what the pricing will be Blink Crying



The loco about 450€ and the wagon set 350€ may be a bit more or less


Offline applor  
#22 Posted : 18 November 2020 21:49:55(UTC)
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Interesting to see how it compares to the Liliput and who wants one that didn't buy the Liliput.
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#23 Posted : 19 November 2020 02:32:36(UTC)
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I heard 2021 insider model has been released. Märklin 39445 E44 locomotive and matching passenger coaches 43144. Any info?

39445.jpg

43144-1.w610.h610.fill.jpg
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#24 Posted : 19 November 2020 04:41:16(UTC)
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Moved QQQ1970's post into existing thread on 2021 Insider items.
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Offline vilithejou  
#25 Posted : 19 November 2020 06:09:58(UTC)
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Interesting to see how it compares to the Liliput and who wants one that didn't buy the Liliput.


They are different

Liliput is subserie E44.5 502-505
Marklin is subserie 506-509, more powerful

They are different in superstructure! So interesting!

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Offline vilithejou  
#26 Posted : 20 November 2020 05:34:03(UTC)
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Offline pab  
#27 Posted : 20 November 2020 13:48:35(UTC)
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Received the mailing today. The Z scale model is the V 188 001.

According to the pictures the E44.5 is a nice looking train, but it's not a steam locomotive, so I'll have to pass
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#28 Posted : 20 November 2020 17:59:12(UTC)
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I think the Loco is rather ho hum compared to recent Club Models, but the coach set is interesting so Ill probably order that,
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#29 Posted : 21 November 2020 06:22:21(UTC)
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This is the most indifferent insider locomotive i saw the 25 years i am collecting marklin trains.
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#30 Posted : 21 November 2020 11:39:36(UTC)
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I like it!
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#31 Posted : 21 November 2020 13:03:31(UTC)
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Me too but I won't buy it because I focus on steam
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Offline applor  
#32 Posted : 24 November 2020 01:32:47(UTC)
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They are different

Liliput is subserie E44.5 502-505
Marklin is subserie 506-509, more powerful

They are different in superstructure! So interesting!




Yes quite right and I really like this sub series, it looks unique and interesting with the different subframe.

Revision date is 1960 but optically no change from 1954 so it will be on my purchase list, I just disconnect the top light.
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Offline RayF  
#33 Posted : 25 November 2020 09:35:57(UTC)
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I love older electrics, so this model is definitely on my radar!

As I'm not an Insider I'll wait to see what I can find through other sources...
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Offline twmarklinfan  
#34 Posted : 25 November 2020 14:07:09(UTC)
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I really like the look of the E44, until I read the German version of the brochure. €450 is a lot even if you use a dealer who is willing to discount the price. I will think hard during time in my Xmas bubble 🤔
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#35 Posted : 25 November 2020 22:43:41(UTC)
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Well , I am a club member but I won't buy it - I pass - because it’s not my cup of tea. Btw: again Märklin mixed - cross matched cars from DB Marklin 43141 - "Donnerbuechsen" / "Thunder Boxes" Passenger Car Set from 2019 & price wise way to high ! ) Ditto.
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#36 Posted : 26 November 2020 13:55:59(UTC)
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I really like the look of the E44, until I read the German version of the brochure. €450 is a lot even if you use a dealer who is willing to discount the price. I will think hard during time in my Xmas bubble 🤔


Looks like we are going to be in a bubble for a long time, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55086621

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