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Online vilithejou  
#1 Posted : 27 September 2020 16:27:57(UTC)
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hi

From some news on facebook on thursday october 1, we have the surprise lok on Marklin.de


EXCLUSIVITE MARKLIN : rendez-vous le jeudi 1er octobre 2020 à 15 heures 00 précises sur le site Märklin -www.maerklin.de- pour vivre en direct la présentation officielle du modèle suprise 2020 à l'échelle HO en Märklin et Trix. Nous commenterons en direct cet évènement.

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Offline foumaro  
#2 Posted : 27 September 2020 18:55:45(UTC)
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The locomotives for years 2018 and 2019 were amazing,i hope for something perfect for this year too.ThumpUp
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Offline Sankch  
#3 Posted : 28 September 2020 08:23:01(UTC)
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Let's hope for the Steam 141.R.1244 Mikado
Offline foumaro  
#4 Posted : 28 September 2020 09:27:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sankch Go to Quoted Post
Let's hope for the Steam 141.R.1244 Mikado



Very nice idea.Perfect locomotive similar to the previous French beauties.ThumpUp
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#5 Posted : 28 September 2020 12:08:28(UTC)
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Very nice idea.Perfect locomotive similar to the previous French beauties.ThumpUp


and this one still run here in Switzerland.

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#6 Posted : 28 September 2020 19:45:36(UTC)
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Yes really is a Micado French Lady!!!
Offline mike c  
#7 Posted : 29 September 2020 03:31:24(UTC)
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It would make sense to have done a limited run of Northlanders at the same time as the metal RAm.

But it is anybody's guess

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#8 Posted : 30 September 2020 22:19:43(UTC)
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#9 Posted : 30 September 2020 22:53:56(UTC)
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Wow that is really something.

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Offline klarinettmeister  
#10 Posted : 30 September 2020 23:45:42(UTC)
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There's also a set of coaches for the loco.
Belgian trains doesn't fit my future layout but it's a surprise loc so then it fits my collection.
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Offline ktsolias  
#11 Posted : 01 October 2020 08:43:10(UTC)
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Its a surprise!!!

Does the SNBC series 1 exist as a model from other manufactures?? I don't remember something like that.

But any way I have to put an order...

Costas
Offline foumaro  
#12 Posted : 01 October 2020 09:16:48(UTC)
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A perfect green steamer as the previous 39243 and 39436,i am in trouble again.LOL Love ThumpUp
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Offline danmarklinman  
#13 Posted : 01 October 2020 11:09:36(UTC)
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Wow and ouch. Is it due for delivery soon?
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#14 Posted : 01 October 2020 11:24:38(UTC)
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Preordered the 39480 and 43546. Delievery due in January 2021.
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Offline mbarreto  
#15 Posted : 01 October 2020 11:42:59(UTC)
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Not thinking in the price, it seems a perfect choice!
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline foumaro  
#16 Posted : 01 October 2020 12:07:43(UTC)
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The locomotive is perfect,i do not like the wagons at all.I will buy the loco only i find other cars to run with her.Unsure
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Offline mbarreto  
#17 Posted : 01 October 2020 12:40:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
The locomotive is perfect,i do not like the wagons at all.I will buy the loco only i find other cars to run with her.Unsure


What is the link for the coaches?


Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline Jimmy Thompson  
#18 Posted : 01 October 2020 12:43:07(UTC)
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Granted, I was looking for a complete reboot of Sarrasani Zirkuswelt with a retooled, super-detailed KLVM to go with....

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

but this is really nice also Drool
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Offline hxmiesa  
#19 Posted : 01 October 2020 13:11:42(UTC)
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Good for the belgians and the Märklin fan-boys! ;-)
-But what an odd choice of model for Märklin. I wonder what kind of serious lobbying has had to be done for this one to see the light... haha
Is the model valid for SNCF people? -or any other liveries?
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Offline mbarreto  
#20 Posted : 01 October 2020 13:37:01(UTC)
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In the brochure it is written:

"Prototype steam exhaust using two smoke stacks by means of a newly designed smoke unit with two smoke devices."

Does it mean the smoke will be in synch with the wheels and what was expected in a real steamer? Or will it be just the usual Seuthe?

Edit: Anyway, it is also written "Factory installed smoke generator", that are the usual words for the Seuthe....
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline mmervine  
#21 Posted : 01 October 2020 13:37:19(UTC)
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What is the link for the coaches?




https://www.reynaulds.co...ducts/Marklin/43546.aspx

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Offline danmarklinman  
#22 Posted : 01 October 2020 13:40:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post
Good for the belgians and the Märklin fan-boys! ;-)
-But what an odd choice of model for Märklin. I wonder what kind of serious lobbying has had to be done for this one to see the light... haha
Is the model valid for SNCF people? -or any other liveries?


Marklin is very big in Belgium, this is a great choice for them to do this really iconic Belgium steamer 👍 this picture was taken at Lille in Northern France.
They ran into France and the Netherlands I believe
https://www.cheminots.ne...c28b077e9570fc8e2d0a.jpg
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Online vilithejou  
#23 Posted : 01 October 2020 14:23:10(UTC)
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Offline mbarreto  
#24 Posted : 01 October 2020 14:53:14(UTC)
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The coaches seem to be interesting for the ones that don't already have them. They are 1:87 and that is a plus (I decided not buy more out of 1:87 scale coaches).
At the moment I am much more interested in the locomotive than the coaches, so I will probably order the loco but for sure not the coaches. I will decide when the coaches will be available.
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline jerdenberg  
#25 Posted : 01 October 2020 15:04:45(UTC)
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Impressive loc. According to web description used within Belgium, but also for connections to Aachen and to Luxembourg.
Figomima division, UP; mostly figment of my imagination yet.
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Offline AntoinePrt  
#26 Posted : 01 October 2020 15:23:56(UTC)
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Loc ordered.
Delivery due mid-December for the loc. And beginning 2021 for the coaches.

New and specific smoke generator included! Time for « synchronised » smoke has maybe arrived BigGrin
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Offline Thewolf  
#27 Posted : 01 October 2020 16:24:26(UTC)
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I can only order this loco. I remember it

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Offline pab  
#28 Posted : 01 October 2020 16:46:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post
Good for the belgians and the Märklin fan-boys! ;-)
-But what an odd choice of model for Märklin. I wonder what kind of serious lobbying has had to be done for this one to see the light... haha
Is the model valid for SNCF people? -or any other liveries?


According to the description the locomotive was also used on international routes to France, Switzerland, Luxemburg and Germany (Aachen).
I like the locomotive and ordered it. Have to think a while about the coaches.
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Offline AntoinePrt  
#29 Posted : 01 October 2020 17:03:19(UTC)
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Enjoy the sound. Let’s hope Marklin does the things correctly this time Cool

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Offline RayF  
#30 Posted : 01 October 2020 18:41:17(UTC)
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Lovely loco!

I already have a set of those coaches so if I do buy it will only be the loco.
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Offline mike c  
#31 Posted : 01 October 2020 18:55:52(UTC)
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These steam engines were put into service between 1935 and 1938.
I don't know what the appropriate coaches for such a lok during the early years would be.
The M2 commuter coaches were only put into service at the very end of the 1950s.
The engines were withdrawn from service in 1962.

I would think that early coaches of the I1 and I2 types would be good options. You may be able to find these from LS Models/ModelsWorld

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Offline JohnjeanB  
#32 Posted : 01 October 2020 19:15:20(UTC)
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Hi
Here is a Märklin video on this loco

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Offline DasBert33  
#33 Posted : 01 October 2020 19:55:34(UTC)
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Wow, who would have thought a belgian surprise loco was a possibility?

A brass model was already for sale in the past here, but for sure a lot more expensive: http://treinshopolaerts.be/enownproductions.html

I like the model! What do you think of the minimum radius R2 spec? Is it real or a little exaggerated? It would be a first for a pacific type loco. My father wants to order one but it has to run on his C track layout with R1 curves and R1 curved switches.





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#34 Posted : 01 October 2020 20:12:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DasBert33 Go to Quoted Post

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What do you think of the minimum radius R2 spec?
...



I think most of the models Märklin will announce in the future will have that limitation. Exception will be to Startup range and small models.cy
It is a trend that is a consequence due to the demand for accuracy and true to scale that is wanted these days.
We can't have it all..



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Online kiwiAlan  
#35 Posted : 01 October 2020 20:18:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DasBert33 Go to Quoted Post
Wow, who would have thought a belgian surprise loco was a possibility?

A brass model was already for sale in the past here, but for sure a lot more expensive: http://treinshopolaerts.be/enownproductions.html

I like the model! What do you think of the minimum radius R2 spec? Is it real or a little exaggerated? It would be a first for a pacific type loco. My father wants to order one but it has to run on his C track layout with R1 curves and R1 curved switches.


Well, that same limitation was announced for the French 241A when that was a surprise loco, but it has subsequently been shown to run on R1.

It may be that it will run on R1 without some of the detailing ... but i would want someone else to try it first.
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#36 Posted : 01 October 2020 20:44:17(UTC)
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I wondered if this months wall paper picture was of the surprise loco, but no, it is a humble Br24 (36244).

Missed opportunity there Marklin ... Blushing Blushing Blushing

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#37 Posted : 01 October 2020 22:42:31(UTC)
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Well, that same limitation was announced for the French 241A when that was a surprise loco, but it has subsequently been shown to run on R1.
It may be that it will run on R1 without some of the detailing ... but i would want someone else to try it first.

More often it is because of clearance problems, like signals and catenary posts.

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Offline H0  
#38 Posted : 02 October 2020 09:15:02(UTC)
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A Belgian steamer is a surprise. But it suits the line, having French and Swiss steamers as earlier surprise models.

IIRC many, if not all, of those surprise models turned out to be Made in China. I won't be surprised if honourable US members of this honourable forum will show pictures of the box with this aforementioned sticker.
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#39 Posted : 02 October 2020 11:05:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
...

Enjoy the sound. Let’s hope Marklin does the things correctly this time Cool

A.


And the black smoke - I want real thick chocking black smoke from those smokers.. Sneaky

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#40 Posted : 02 October 2020 11:34:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
...

Enjoy the sound. Let’s hope Marklin does the things correctly this time Cool

A.



Hi Antoine,
Thanks for the video.
That is a very impressive steam engine.
The driving wheels were almost as big (within 20mm) as the Bavarian High-Stepper (39436)
It had the same number of cylinders (4 albeit not compounded) and had a high degree of super-heating.
The boiler shape and cladding reminds me of the streamlined Bulleid Pacifics on the British Southern Railway, even in their rebuilt form.

This Class 1 had two firehole doors - Ive never seen that before.

Certainly the 1930s saw the pinnacle of steam locomotive design, and the 100 year mark is almost upon us.

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#41 Posted : 02 October 2020 12:46:17(UTC)
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Well, the model is certainly beautiful, and it is good news that it was seen both in Germany and France. (-and I suppose it was in the Nederlands too...?)
But what worries me now, are the coaches; These looks too much like local traffic coaches. (Of course one cant travel for more than 2 hours in train in Belgium, without leaving the state...) -But shouldnt the coaches for such a huge loco be more for "long distance travelling"?
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#42 Posted : 02 October 2020 12:51:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
In the brochure it is written:

"Prototype steam exhaust using two smoke stacks by means of a newly designed smoke unit with two smoke devices."

Does it mean the smoke will be in synch with the wheels and what was expected in a real steamer? Or will it be just the usual Seuthe?

Edit: Anyway, it is also written "Factory installed smoke generator", that are the usual words for the Seuthe....


Its indeed a very tempting model. I believe they would have mentioned it if the smoke was synchronized, but anyway it's an interesting development.
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#43 Posted : 02 October 2020 13:15:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post
Well, the model is certainly beautiful, and it is good news that it was seen both in Germany and France. (-and I suppose it was in the Nederlands too...?)
But what worries me now, are the coaches; These looks too much like local traffic coaches. (Of course one cant travel for more than 2 hours in train in Belgium, without leaving the state...) -But shouldnt the coaches for such a huge loco be more for "long distance travelling"?


When you read the blurb on the Marklin web page it seems these are the style of coaches it would have hauled post war, as the loco was being relegated to minor lines as diesel and electric locos were taking over the main lines. also the model appears to have two head lights which i guess would be its post war arrangement, so it would seem these coaches are the correct ones for the era modelled.
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#44 Posted : 02 October 2020 13:19:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post

This Class 1 had two firehole doors - Ive never seen that before.


No, I haven't heard of it either. The Marklin web page blurb says that due to the high coal usage at times it had two firemen to stoke it. Also from the rear truck frame it seems that it had a very large grate, so to get the coal evenly spread over the fire bed they may have needed to use two fire doors to get an even spread of coal over the fire as they stoked it.
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#45 Posted : 02 October 2020 14:49:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post
Well, the model is certainly beautiful, and it is good news that it was seen both in Germany and France. (-and I suppose it was in the Nederlands too...?)
But what worries me now, are the coaches; These looks too much like local traffic coaches. (Of course one cant travel for more than 2 hours in train in Belgium, without leaving the state...) -But shouldnt the coaches for such a huge loco be more for "long distance travelling"?

Like they did many times before, Märklin look in their cupboard what they have for coaches to go along with the beautiful Loco like the 241 A 65 (they ended up with Swiss local coaches, so they do the same with this new Belgian Loco.
Because the coaches are irrelevant is not a good enough reason not the buy splendid-looking locos. Just ignore the coaches and get them from another supplier.
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Offline Dimi194  
#46 Posted : 02 October 2020 23:45:20(UTC)
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What a beautiful loco... but that price is above my train budget for this year!

And R2 only is no good for me, so much R1 on my layouts :S
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#47 Posted : 16 November 2020 19:00:44(UTC)
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Hallo ,
So is official Märklin surprised Club members by release of Belgian partially streamlined steam locomotive Class 01. This is 1935 design for heavy express trains.
Any thoughts, observations, comments on this ....
with Warm Regards,
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Online vilithejou  
#48 Posted : 17 November 2020 06:28:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Go to Quoted Post
Hallo ,
So is official Märklin surprised Club members by release of Belgian partially streamlined steam locomotive Class 01. This is 1935 design for heavy express trains.
Any thoughts, observations, comments on this ....
with Warm Regards,
Märklineisenbahn


Already have a discussion of this lok from 1 month ago, when Marklin announced it...

https://www.marklin-user...e-announced-on-October-1

And it's NOT Insider Club, only Surprise model..... Everybody can buy the lok, not only the Insider members

In case, the lok is superb!

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#49 Posted : 17 November 2020 14:24:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Marklineisenbahn Go to Quoted Post
Hallo ,
So is official Märklin surprised Club members by release of Belgian partially streamlined steam locomotive Class 01. This is 1935 design for heavy express trains.
Any thoughts, observations, comments on this ....
with Warm Regards,
Märklineisenbahn


Already have a discussion of this lok from 1 month ago, when Marklin announced it...

https://www.marklin-user...e-announced-on-October-1

And it's NOT Insider Club, only Surprise model..... Everybody can buy the lok, not only the Insider members

In case, the lok is superb!



Hallo Gentlemen,
Sorry, Ma faux pas , I apologized- did not know that separate tread existed.
Regards,
Märklineisenbahn

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