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Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC
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Hi guys First of all, the information I need is about Canada and specifically about Quebec. Therefore, any information from operations in other countries will be of no use to me.Sorry but that's the way it is. My move is advanced 6 weeks and I have no time to lose. As all the Marklin trains equipment is boxed, I must take this opportunity to settle once and for all the insurance problem. My insurance company, furrier like any other insurance company in the world, assured me that whatever the value of the Marklin equipment, it would only reimburse me 4000 $ cad, even though it would have cost me 50000 $ cad to acquire it.....unless I had it appraised by a .....professional appraiser. So my questions are for the Canadian and Quebec members. Have you experienced this kind of problem with your insurer? Is there a ''professional appraiser of movable property'' in Canada and in Quebec? Do you know of any? Thank you for your replies Thewolf |
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When I had my own plumbing company one of my trucks was robbed from it's tools. I had my main supplier of tools make a list of the value of the tools and the insurance accepted it. Perhaps your local hobby shop can make a valuation of your collection as they would be the professionals in this field. You can ask your insurance company if this is acceptable. Photos of everything is recommend, I myself have made photos of everything and put them on a disk. The disk is in my safe deposit box in case of a fire or some other disaster. Good luck on your move!
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,239 Location: Montreal, QC
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If you have a complete list of your collection, you can list the items as follows: Make/Manufacturer - Model Number - Original Value (Amount Paid $) - Date of Purchase/Acquisition - Condition (Notes) - Collector Value ($) Marklin - 3050 - $150 - 1976 - Mint in Original Box (unused) - $200 To support the valuation, you can use either a Maerklin catalog with price list or Koll's or similar Whenever possible, have photos of each item, identifying the model and condition If moving, keep an inventory list of which item is in which moving box, so that you can identify precisely what items may be lost damaged. That way, if there is damage, hopefully it will be within whatever claim limits your policy may include. Check with your mover about specific coverage of goods moved. This would be independent of your home insurance. https://www.nmra.org/model-insuranceRegards Mike C
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,239 Location: Montreal, QC
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I would think that the best place to start would be your broker or insurance company. In the past, when I have moved locally, I moved my model trains and record collection personally and when it was moved by movers, it was shipped in small batches so that in the event of any damages, the risk was less than the insurance coverage. It was also helpful to buy specific insurance from the moving company to cover items in excess of the regular coverage. I did a search for "model train", "hobby", "collection" and "insurance" and "assurance" with keywords "Montreal" and "Quebec" and came up with a few results. There were not very many accurate links provided by Google. For example: https://www.northamerica...ving-companies/insuranceRegards Mike C
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Your other option is not to play the insurance game at all, where the odds are always stacked against you.
Look after your stuff, pack it well, transport it yourself perhaps if you are concerned about theft, and you will come out ahead in all probability.
You could put the money you would have spent on insurance premiums into your trains.
This applies everywhere and not just trains. (Medical insurance is more like a shipping club than actual insurance, 3rd party auto insurance is also different.)
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Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC
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Guys Thank you all so much. It was much appreciated. I read quickly and there are some very interesting things. Thank you. I'll get back to you on that later. Thewolf |
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Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC
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Originally Posted by: mike c  If you have a complete list of your collection, you can list the items as follows: Make/Manufacturer - Model Number - Original Value (Amount Paid $) - Date of Purchase/Acquisition - Condition (Notes) - Collector Value ($) Marklin - 3050 - $150 - 1976 - Mint in Original Box (unused) - $200 To support the valuation, you can use either a Maerklin catalog with price list or Koll's or similar Whenever possible, have photos of each item, identifying the model and condition If moving, keep an inventory list of which item is in which moving box, so that you can identify precisely what items may be lost damaged. That way, if there is damage, hopefully it will be within whatever claim limits your policy may include. Check with your mover about specific coverage of goods moved. This would be independent of your home insurance. https://www.nmra.org/model-insuranceRegards Mike C Hi Mike, I had already started this list, less detailed than yours for example. So I'm going to finish it, taking your remarks into account. It goes without saying that the photos will be taken. Anything that's a "Marklin" train is transported by us. I'm going to visit your link, for sure, but what I'm afraid of is the high cost that could set it back...if they do the insurance... Thank you for your reply Thewolf |
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Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC
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Originally Posted by: Unholz  Interesting...but it must be expensive... |
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Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC
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Originally Posted by: mike c  I would think that the best place to start would be your broker or insurance company. In the past, when I have moved locally, I moved my model trains and record collection personally and when it was moved by movers, it was shipped in small batches so that in the event of any damages, the risk was less than the insurance coverage. It was also helpful to buy specific insurance from the moving company to cover items in excess of the regular coverage. I did a search for "model train", "hobby", "collection" and "insurance" and "assurance" with keywords "Montreal" and "Quebec" and came up with a few results. There were not very many accurate links provided by Google. For example: https://www.northamerica...ving-companies/insuranceRegards Mike C As I wrote, all of Marklin is being transported by us... |
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Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,078 Location: Cowansville, QC
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Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz  Your other option is not to play the insurance game at all, where the odds are always stacked against you.
Look after your stuff, pack it well, transport it yourself perhaps if you are concerned about theft, and you will come out ahead in all probability.
You could put the money you would have spent on insurance premiums into your trains.
This applies everywhere and not just trains. (Medical insurance is more like a shipping club than actual insurance, 3rd party auto insurance is also different.)
Thank you Dale That ties in with what I think And I would add that at my age... the future is behind us and that the most important thing is to enjoy the moments Thewolf |
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Joined: 18/06/2005(UTC) Posts: 669 Location: El Sobrante, California
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Originally Posted by: Thewolf  Hi guys First of all, the information I need is about Canada and specifically about Quebec. Therefore, any information from operations in other countries will be of no use to me.Sorry but that's the way it is. My move is advanced 6 weeks and I have no time to lose. As all the Marklin trains equipment is boxed, I must take this opportunity to settle once and for all the insurance problem. My insurance company, furrier like any other insurance company in the world, assured me that whatever the value of the Marklin equipment, it would only reimburse me 4000 $ cad, even though it would have cost me 50000 $ cad to acquire it.....unless I had it appraised by a .....professional appraiser. So my questions are for the Canadian and Quebec members. Have you experienced this kind of problem with your insurer? Is there a ''professional appraiser of movable property'' in Canada and in Quebec? Do you know of any? Thank you for your replies Thewolf Seems to me someone on this site could give you a written appraisal for US $1.00 plus about the same for postage. How about it, Mike C. Regards gene in El Sobrante
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