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Offline I_love_Marklin_37538  
#1 Posted : 29 May 2019 11:13:31(UTC)
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#2 Posted : 29 May 2019 11:40:37(UTC)
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Yeah, with a set a four 4-wheel coaches and a Gepackwagon. No prices yet though.



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Offline pab  
#3 Posted : 29 May 2019 11:43:56(UTC)
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Looks like a nice addition to my collection. Including the thunderbox cars with interior lights and passengers.
Offline danmarklinman  
#4 Posted : 29 May 2019 12:50:33(UTC)
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#5 Posted : 29 May 2019 12:54:21(UTC)
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Wow that is really something, perfect for smaller layouts.

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Offline vilithejou  
#6 Posted : 29 May 2019 14:23:15(UTC)
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So very very interesting model

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Offline Leitner  
#7 Posted : 29 May 2019 15:05:00(UTC)
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Why they insist on extremely niche models? I mean, how many BR78.10 were produced irl? 2?
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Offline bph  
#8 Posted : 29 May 2019 15:54:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post


Yeah, with a set a four 4-wheel coaches and a Gepackwagon. No prices yet though.




€439,99 for the locomotive.
€299.99 for the passenger car set

Nice model and quite tempting.
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Offline mbarreto  
#9 Posted : 29 May 2019 18:22:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post

...
€439,99 for the locomotive.



The price per locomotive centimeter is increasing.


Edit: It is better have a number to compare with other locomotives. 439,99 € / 19,9 cm = 22,11 €/cm.
Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline QQQ1970  
#10 Posted : 29 May 2019 20:04:52(UTC)
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I have the old 43131 set and 43132 add-on. All same except it is 2nd class vs. 3rd, and without the figures. I have the classic and ubiquitous BR 24 converted to current conducting coupler at tender end and added on-off switch. So no thanks.
Offline steventrain  
#11 Posted : 29 May 2019 20:05:37(UTC)
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Why they insist on extremely niche models? I mean, how many BR78.10 were produced irl? 2?



Wikipedia website. English translation.

The two vehicles of the class 78.10 of the German Federal Railways were based on the Prussian P 8 by the company Krauss-Maffei and the Minden repairing plant developed steam locomotives. This was intended to improve the acceleration values of vehicles, especially for use in suburban railways and light rail vehicles .

Features and History
The running and engine as well as the boiler of the two vehicles with the original operating numbers 38 2919 and 38 2990 remained almost unchanged. The cab was redesigned. There was also a short tender, which was coupled via a drawbar to the locomotive and improved the running characteristics when reversing. As tender locomotives they received the operating numbers 78 1001 and 1002. They operated first in the Munich area , later in Augsburg and last on Lake Constance .

Other P8 locomotives were not rebuilt, because with the retirement of war locomotives at the DB until 1954 were released in large numbers Wannentender that could be coupled with the P8. Thus, a conversion to Wendezugfähigen locomotives with a reverse speed of 85 km / h was also possible with simpler means.

Thus, the two locomotives remained 78 1001 and 78 1002 the only one of their kind and were retired in 1961 and then scrapped.


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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#12 Posted : 29 May 2019 20:37:58(UTC)
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Why a niche model? Because almost everything mainstream has been done....

That is an eye-bleeding amount of money for those thunderboxes!
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Offline TEEWolf  
#13 Posted : 29 May 2019 20:49:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Leitner Go to Quoted Post
Why they insist on extremely niche models? I mean, how many BR78.10 were produced irl? 2?


Never built. Only 2 were reconstructed. But indeed I would have prefered the new Big Boy, which is now under steam again. Such a niche model is nothing for me. I ordered already the V 320, another niche model. Obviously 2019 is a Märklin niche year.Laugh

But the 5 Donnerbüchsen (= Thunder Rifles BigGrin) are of interest to me. They come with interior lights, which actually is nice. But they have to be switched on and off through the BR 78. But definitely I do not buy this BR 78.10. How shall I switch lights on and off then?
Offline steventrain  
#14 Posted : 29 May 2019 20:49:46(UTC)
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Offline scraigen  
#15 Posted : 29 May 2019 21:22:10(UTC)
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They are really nice but I never feel that being a club member brings me any great deals or bonuses more like I get the opportunity to buy the most expensive models and thats something I pay for as part of the subscription? But they look superb, maybe one day I'll be able to pick them up second hand!
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Offline Minok  
#16 Posted : 29 May 2019 21:47:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post


But the 5 Donnerbüchsen (= Thunder Rifles BigGrin) are of interest to me. They come with interior lights, which actually is nice. But they have to be switched on and off through the BR 78. But definitely I do not buy this BR 78.10. How shall I switch lights on and off then?


I'm guessing if you put them behind a loco that doesn't provide switched power to the conducting coupler, you would have to install a slider on a car and a decoder inside to control the power; probably on the last car, the baggage car, to even control the tail lights separately from the interior lights.
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Offline petestra  
#17 Posted : 29 May 2019 22:44:30(UTC)
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This is a beautiful model and something I will seriously consider. Peter. Cool
Offline TEEWolf  
#18 Posted : 30 May 2019 00:27:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post


But the 5 Donnerbüchsen (= Thunder Rifles BigGrin) are of interest to me. They come with interior lights, which actually is nice. But they have to be switched on and off through the BR 78. But definitely I do not buy this BR 78.10. How shall I switch lights on and off then?


I'm guessing if you put them behind a loco that doesn't provide switched power to the conducting coupler, you would have to install a slider on a car and a decoder inside to control the power; probably on the last car, the baggage car, to even control the tail lights separately from the interior lights.


I think you are totally right.
Offline shannon  
#19 Posted : 30 May 2019 06:47:51(UTC)
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Is this engine classified as tender or tank locomotive?
The loc comes with a tender but is classified as BR78.10 on which the classification is belong to tank locomotive serving for the main line.
Offline kimballthurlow  
#20 Posted : 30 May 2019 08:06:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post

Is this engine classified as tender or tank locomotive?
The loc comes with a tender but is classified as BR78.10 on which the classification is belong to tank locomotive serving for the main line.


Hi Shannon,
I believe the BR78 is a 4-6-4 tank loco, so this is also classifed by DB as a tank locomotive in the form of a 4-6-4.
An example is the Maerklin 33072.

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Offline vilithejou  
#21 Posted : 30 May 2019 08:26:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post

Is this engine classified as tender or tank locomotive?
The loc comes with a tender but is classified as BR78.10 on which the classification is belong to tank locomotive serving for the main line.


Hi Shannon,
I believe the BR78 is a 4-6-4 tank loco, so this is also classifed by DB as a tank locomotive in the form of a 4-6-4.
An example is the Maerklin 33072.

Kimball


In Marklin Highlights say:

Tender close coupled,
image shows the model
positioned for a
display case

And:

Two-axle short tender Type 2T 17;
mfx+ digital decoder and sound
generator built into the model

That makes me think that it's not a loco-tender... but i can miss
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Offline DV  
#22 Posted : 30 May 2019 10:16:35(UTC)
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Looks like engine and tender, close coupled, if it would have been a tank, my order would have gone inSad Sad Sad
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#23 Posted : 30 May 2019 10:59:17(UTC)
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Looks like engine and tender, close coupled, if it would have been a tank, my order would have gone inSad Sad Sad


IIRC when they did this model as a Trix Profi Club model for Minitrix it was stated that it is regarded as a tank loco, but they needed a more powerful loco, and the T18/Br78 was too long for some of the curves that needed to be negotiated, so they put a small tender on the P18.

As for the economics of producing this loco, I would guess that already having a P8 loco in the range would help, so they only needed to tweak that tooling and then generate the tooling for the tender.

Then having done this as the Insider Club/Proficlub model, there will be the second loco in the class which will probably go on general sale in about 18 months, and then use it as a Nurnberg Model fair loco, probably with snow detailing, and then there will probably be a metal edition, and maybe the occasional fantasy colour scheme ... so they will get their moneys worth out of the model.
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Offline Leitner  
#24 Posted : 30 May 2019 13:39:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Why a niche model? Because almost everything mainstream has been done....

That is an eye-bleeding amount of money for those thunderboxes!


I think there are plenty of mainstream models which can be reproduced, not only german. I believe a SNCF diesel locomotive for example would be a hit and would probably cost less to project/produce...
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Offline Goofy  
#25 Posted : 30 May 2019 15:07:45(UTC)
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This is a good news from Märklin about the steam locomotive BR 78.10!
Märklin present better AUX functions in this model, which means it´s also prepare for other new steam locomotives with same AUX functions. ThumpUp
Cab light
Smoke generator
Flickering fire box
Conductive coupler for the carriage
And sounds
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Offline TEEWolf  
#26 Posted : 30 May 2019 22:37:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post

Is this engine classified as tender or tank locomotive?
The loc comes with a tender but is classified as BR78.10 on which the classification is belong to tank locomotive serving for the main line.


I do not know as it is at the English language. In another thread, I was taught, that the English language does not seperate between different tenders and/or tank.

The German language does. You got a "Schlepptender", this is always a seperate wagon pulled behind the steamer loco. And just a regular Tender, which is in German a coal container connected to the steamer like a Rucksack. Theses locos in German are called a "Tenderlokomotive".


A tank in German is regularly a box or container used for storage of liquids. At a steamer a tank is either on the loco or part of the Schlepptender. But in any cases it is a container storing the needed water for a steam engine.
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Offline AntoinePrt  
#27 Posted : 31 May 2019 05:09:30(UTC)
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Hi there,

Just google translate and you will have all the answers you need BigGrin It is a tender. Presence of a draw bar between the tender and the locomotive frame.

https://www.modellbahnfr...r.de/selbstbau/7810.html

I am surprised no one had already made the relevant research Flapper

Enjoy!

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Offline bph  
#28 Posted : 31 May 2019 13:47:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
This is a good news from Märklin about the steam locomotive BR 78.10!
Märklin present better AUX functions in this model, which means it´s also prepare for other new steam locomotives with same AUX functions. ThumpUp
Cab light
Smoke generator
Flickering fire box
Conductive coupler for the carriage
And sounds


Agree ThumpUp
Especially like that they have installed conductive coupler for passenger car light.



Offline TEEWolf  
#29 Posted : 31 May 2019 18:25:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AntoinePrt Go to Quoted Post
Hi there,

Just google translate and you will have all the answers you need BigGrin It is a tender. Presence of a draw bar between the tender and the locomotive frame.

https://www.modellbahnfr...r.de/selbstbau/7810.html

I am surprised no one had already made the relevant research Flapper

Enjoy!

A.


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(in German the word Google sounds like the German word for rooster = "Gockel")

Or do you think that a French has to explain me my German language? You must not be surprised, if you would have read my explanations in post #26 thoroughly.Flapper

Again, in German this loco has a "Schlepptender" and not only a tender. Whereas the English language does not do this determination, which were told to me by native English speakers at this forum earlier.BigGrin
Offline Purellum  
#30 Posted : 31 May 2019 19:31:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
You got a "Schlepptender", this is always a seperate wagon pulled behind the steamer loco. And just a regular Tender, which is in German a coal container connected to the steamer like a Rucksack. Theses locos in German are called a "Tenderlokomotive".


And then you've got the "Öltender", the "Kondenstender", the "Wannentender", the "Kastentender" and the "Kabinentender" etc. LOL

A square tender is thus called a "Kastenschlepptender" LOL

I don't dare to guess what a square condensation tender with a cabin is called for an oil fired locomotive LOL Flapper LOL

In English it is so much easier.

Per.

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Offline Goofy  
#31 Posted : 31 May 2019 20:27:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Purellum Go to Quoted Post


Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
You got a "Schlepptender", this is always a seperate wagon pulled behind the steamer loco. And just a regular Tender, which is in German a coal container connected to the steamer like a Rucksack. Theses locos in German are called a "Tenderlokomotive".


And then you've got the "Öltender", the "Kondenstender", the "Wannentender", the "Kastentender" and the "Kabinentender" etc.

Per.



You presented exactly different concepts about the locomotive´s tender as an identification in german language.

Flapper
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#32 Posted : 31 May 2019 20:36:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post


You presented exactly different concepts about the locomotive´s tender as an identification in german language.

Flapper


Maybe if you read my post one more time you'll understand.............. LOL

Per

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Offline kimballthurlow  
#33 Posted : 31 May 2019 22:53:43(UTC)
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I think the main point about this "tender" discussion in the forum should be as to what CLASSIFICATION was allocated by the Federal Railway Central Office Minden.
For operational purposes the genus/series 78.10 was allocated, placing these locomotives in the same operating pool as the BR78 4-6-4 tenderlokomotive.
The BR78 was capable of running backwards AND forwards with the same efficiency and safety.
The BR78.10 was capable of running backwards AND forwards with the same efficiency and safety.
So both 78s could be assigned to the same task.

As TEEWolf and Per have pointed out, the question of nomenclature of the locomotive is arguable.
The article quoted by Antoine does not describe the 781001 or 781002 as locos with a Schlepptender which translates to towed tender in English.
Neither does it describe them as tenderlokomotives (in English a tank locomotive).
It was not a standard Schlepptender locomotive because of the very complex mechanical arrangements designed to maintain some unity of movement between
the tender frame and the locomotive frame.
Such unity of movement does not exist in a locomotive with a standard towed tender.

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#34 Posted : 31 May 2019 23:28:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
The BR78.10 was capable of running backwards AND forwards with the same efficiency and safety.


That was the plan when they rebuild the two BR38s; but the BR78.10s were never allowed to drive more than 60 km/h backwards.

The original BR38s was allowed to drive 50 km/t backwards, and the "normal" BR78s could do 100 km/t both forwards and backwards.

That's why only two were ever build.

Use Google translate: https://lok-magazin.de/l...-7810-p-8-mit-kurztender

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Offline kiwiAlan  
#35 Posted : 01 June 2019 00:02:55(UTC)
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Was this small tender ever used for any other loco?

My thinking is that it is a smaller tender than the Br24 had, and it was a small loco, this is a somewhat larger loco, so its range must have been quite short.

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Offline TEEWolf  
#36 Posted : 01 June 2019 03:04:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Was this small tender ever used for any other loco?

My thinking is that it is a smaller tender than the Br24 had, and it was a small loco, this is a somewhat larger loco, so its range must have been quite short.



In the new Insider Club Magazine 03/2019 page 7 is an overview and an answer to your thoughts.

https://www.maerklin.de/...03-2019_051319_EN_tt.pdf

There only 2 locos were built of this class 78.10 I do not think that this small Schlepptender has been used to other steamers. Interesting in this overview is the lisitng and comparison with the last years Insider BR 65 too.

In the overview as well you see the differences between a "Schlepptenderlokomotive" and a "Tenderlokomotive".

This naming has nothing to do with any railway office, company or whatever in Germany. These are expressions and a part of the German language.
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#37 Posted : 01 June 2019 07:07:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Was this small tender ever used for any other loco?

My thinking is that it is a smaller tender than the Br24 had, and it was a small loco, this is a somewhat larger loco, so its range must have been quite short.



In the new Insider Club Magazine 03/2019 page 7 is an overview and an answer to your thoughts.

https://www.maerklin.de/...03-2019_051319_EN_tt.pdf

There only 2 locos were built of this class 78.10 I do not think that this small Schlepptender has been used to other steamers. Interesting in this overview is the lisitng and comparison with the last years Insider BR 65 too.

In the overview as well you see the differences between a "Schlepptenderlokomotive" and a "Tenderlokomotive".

This naming has nothing to do with any railway office, company or whatever in Germany. These are expressions and a part of the German language.


Thank you for the link. I have not received my frenchWink version yet.

And indeed, as you mentioned previously, I do not plan on giving German lessons. I am just here to learn, like many others, some knowledge people have about our little trains.

I was hesitating regarding an order but as it is a particular form factor, I will order it.

A.

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Offline AntoinePrt  
#38 Posted : 04 June 2019 15:36:59(UTC)
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Hello,

I just sent an email to Märklin.
Error in the description pdf/website and probably the Insider Magazine ...

How can a control process let this go away...

We pay our trains a fortune and Märklin is not even capable of making good stuff of the money we give ... Mistake do happen but seriously ...

We pay more and more and quality gets less and less.

A.

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Offline RayF  
#39 Posted : 04 June 2019 16:37:38(UTC)
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Just seen this thread. Interesting loco! It's of limited application on most layouts, unless you run anything that Marklin makes! BigGrin

I guess Insider locos tend to be quite rare examples....
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#40 Posted : 05 June 2019 03:16:01(UTC)
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Ah crap, it's era3a and gorgeous to boot. I had hoped to avoid spending more money but this must be purchased Crying . Looks like a P8 but the cab of a BR23 and that cute little 2 axle tender Love
Especially keen on the thunderboxes which have been sorely missing in the epoch3a livery.
There have only been the 2 sets of red thunderbox pairs previously from Marklin and little else from other manufacturers.

edit: just read the history and it turns out they were actually rebuilt P8's, so yeah.
modelling 1954 Germany (era IIIa)
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#41 Posted : 28 December 2019 16:16:53(UTC)
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Mine Br78.10 running in the club´s layout:

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