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Offline QQQ1970  
#1 Posted : 18 November 2018 15:12:32(UTC)
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Anyone knows if it can be run on R1 curves?
Offline Goofy  
#2 Posted : 18 November 2018 15:36:32(UTC)
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No ESU recommended R2 curve.
At least 425 mm.
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Offline steventrain  
#3 Posted : 18 November 2018 17:19:25(UTC)
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I check ESU website and E94 do min radius is 360mm.

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Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 18 November 2018 17:38:49(UTC)
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Minimum radius for ESU's BR 94 (a steamer) is 420 mm, according to their site.
Sometimes models can handle smaller radii than specified by the manufacturer.
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Offline David Dewar  
#5 Posted : 18 November 2018 20:44:55(UTC)
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WE appear to have 360, 420 and 425. Take your pick.. I would go with what the site says.
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Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 18 November 2018 21:33:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
I would go with what the site says.
Life can be so simple.

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Link to site (click on "Technical data"):
http://www.esu.eu/en/pro...-in-h0/class-t161-in-h0/
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Offline applor  
#7 Posted : 19 November 2018 01:47:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
WE appear to have 360, 420 and 425. Take your pick.. I would go with what the site says.


Just some confusion since ESU produce an BR E94 and also the BR94, which have different min radius.

Since OP does not mention the E, Tom's answer is correct of 420mm. As he also says, OP should have just checked on the ESU website.
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Offline QQQ1970  
#8 Posted : 19 November 2018 01:55:35(UTC)
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Thanks. I saw the website before posting but wonder if anyone has success running the loco at R1.
Offline QQQ1970  
#9 Posted : 26 November 2018 03:40:24(UTC)
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No one has tried running ESU BR 94 on R1?
Offline jvuye  
#10 Posted : 26 November 2018 13:34:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Go to Quoted Post
No one has tried running ESU BR 94 on R1?


i tried to push a big round peg in a tiny square hole.
Did not work..
I still wonder why?
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Offline skeeterbuck  
#11 Posted : 26 November 2018 13:47:53(UTC)
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FWIW, I bought the Brawa BR 94 because it stated the minimum radius as 360mm. It derails on R1. Cursing

I contacted Brawa and they recommended it be returned to them to check the specs. I decided to and just live with it. Good luck!
Offline river6109  
#12 Posted : 26 November 2018 14:22:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Go to Quoted Post
No one has tried running ESU BR 94 on R1?


i tried to push a big round peg in a tiny square hole.
Did not work..
I still wonder why?


Jacque, there is a tool now available getting a square bit of timber rod and form it into a round dowel. BigGrin

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Offline Goofy  
#13 Posted : 26 November 2018 15:18:06(UTC)
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I did checked ESU BR 94 in the youtube and it drives bad on the K double turnouts.
Sometimes it´s short circuit.
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Offline RayF  
#14 Posted : 26 November 2018 15:39:36(UTC)
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I'm not sure why we are still discussing this? We agreed that the minimum radius for this loco is 420mm, so R1 curves and turnouts are off limits!
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Offline H0  
#15 Posted : 26 November 2018 16:42:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
We agreed that the minimum radius for this loco is 420mm, so R1 curves and turnouts are off limits!
The documented minimum radius for Märklin's French 241 loco is 420 mm, still it runs through 360 mm curves according to reports made here.

I have Piko coaches with a documented minimum radius of 500+ mm with installed footsteps, yet I found mine can run through 360 mm curves.

It is worth trying rolling stock on smaller radii than documented.

The ESU PDF writes guaranteed minimum radius - this sounds as if smaller radii are possible.
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Offline TEEWolf  
#16 Posted : 26 November 2018 22:02:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: QQQ1970 Go to Quoted Post
Anyone knows if it can be run on R1 curves?


Buy a Märklin BR E 94. I got a Märklin 39226 BR E 94 217 in white from the Infodays. This ones runs perfectly through my 360 mm R 1 curves.
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Offline H0  
#17 Posted : 26 November 2018 22:20:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Buy a Märklin BR E 94. I got a Märklin 39226 BR E 94 217 in white from the Infodays. This ones runs perfectly through my 360 mm R 1 curves.
That one doesn't have a smoke generator. This thread is about an "E-Lok", not about an "Ellok" (a distinction made by WeWaW in an old issue of MIBA).

Regards
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Offline TEEWolf  
#18 Posted : 26 November 2018 22:32:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: TEEWolf Go to Quoted Post
Buy a Märklin BR E 94. I got a Märklin 39226 BR E 94 217 in white from the Infodays. This ones runs perfectly through my 360 mm R 1 curves.
That one doesn't have a smoke generator. This thread is about an "E-Lok", not about an "Ellok" (a distinction made by WeWaW in an old issue of MIBA).



Thanks. You are right. I was mislead by the number again. Märklins is writing from a BR 94.5. Anyway it always makes its way on R 1 too.
Offline QQQ1970  
#19 Posted : 16 December 2018 16:38:16(UTC)
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Does the ESU factory digital coupler (much like telex) work with Marklin relex, close and current conducting coupler?
Offline twmarklinfan  
#20 Posted : 16 December 2018 18:42:36(UTC)
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I asked the question of MSL, as I was very interested in getting one of these models. Unfortunately they are not compatible ☹️
Offline skeeterbuck  
#21 Posted : 17 December 2018 14:19:06(UTC)
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Also, a little off topic, the Brawa BR 94 says it will work with R1 cures, but it doesn't. Don't ask me how I know. ThumbDown
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