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T44friend		#1 Posted : 10 January 2018 10:33:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/01/2014(UTC) Posts: 4 Location: Stockholm		Hello, Has any of you heard anything about Roco News 2018?
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Bigdaddynz		#2 Posted : 10 January 2018 11:18:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Roco usually release their Neuheitin before Marklin do, but I can't see much info on their website. A few dealers have some details though... http://www.mbs-sebnitz.d...roco-neuheiten-2018.html
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mike c		#3 Posted : 10 January 2018 21:15:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,892 Location: Montreal, QC		I was looking at the description of Roco's new Fall 2017 Re 4/4II model (73254, 73255) and 79255 and I noticed that it states that the model goes with the 74560 to 74564 EWII coaches. I could not find any description for those models, but with a total of 5 models, this probably includes first class A, second class B and possibly combined first and second class AB coaches, plus Roco has previously made a baggage (D) coach plus mail coach (Z). The 41312 set and the 64361/2/3/4/5 included a mix of similar coaches with the 1980s <+>SBB CFF FFS markings with or without the turquoise comfort stripe. I am guessing that this new production will once again have the traditional 1970s SBB + CFF/SBB + FFS markings and will officially be announced as 2018 New Items. Regards Mike C
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Rinus		#4 Posted : 10 January 2018 22:13:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Wageningen, The Netherlands		An updated verstond of the Their E 16/Br 116 Would be welkome as well! Rinus
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jcrtrains		#5 Posted : 11 January 2018 01:46:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 597 Location: Toronto, Ontario		That site has everyone's new items. Lot's to look at. A couple have firms haven't exactly broken the bank on new moulds ( Fleischmann, Brawa). Fortunately they had some good ones in 2017 particularly the E52
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Rinus		#6 Posted : 14 January 2018 14:57:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Wageningen, The Netherlands		According to the Stummi forum, Roco will publish tomorrow http://stummiforum.de/vi...c.php?f=177&t=155133 Would be nice and even better if Fleischmann follows as well. Love their Modells from recent years. Edited by user 14 January 2018 21:09:39(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Unholz		#7 Posted : 15 January 2018 13:30:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,392 Location: Switzerland		According to me, this is the news catalogue: https://www.flipgorilla....p/25308031877122983/show
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rmsailor		#8 Posted : 15 January 2018 13:49:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 570 Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife		Lots there to burst the bank. Bob M.
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jvuye		#9 Posted : 15 January 2018 16:10:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2008(UTC) Posts: 2,881 Location: South Western France		Originally Posted by: Unholz According to me, this is the news catalogue: https://www.flipgorilla....p/25308031877122983/show Good selection for us Swiss RR lovers...
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Rinus		#10 Posted : 15 January 2018 21:31:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Wageningen, The Netherlands		Lots of interesting stuff for me. The Rh 1041, the Silberlingen coaches, the silo Wagen sets, the new Schlierenwagen set all looking very tempting. Not to mention their Crocodile. Well done! Rinus
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Bigdaddynz		#11 Posted : 16 January 2018 02:36:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		English PDF's available here: http://www.roco.cc/en/news/catalogs/index.html
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mike c		#12 Posted : 16 January 2018 02:43:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,892 Location: Montreal, QC		Flipgorilla? Is that a show on Donald Trump's Gorilla TV? I said it a few months ago that some companies would miss out on opportunities… Roco delivers the LokRoll SBB Cargo 193. They also score a point for the Novelis 189s. The BLS Re 4/4 will be a welcome completion to the Roco BLS collection. I am guessing the new EWII will have more detailed door parts and finer handrails and footsteps than the original models. Somebody still has a chance to be the first to announce a model of the RailCare 476… The biggest welcome surprise for me is the exact scale models of the Avmz111 (74653) and Apmz125 (74650). Enjoy flipping through the pages Mike C
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GDJTrain65		#13 Posted : 16 January 2018 19:02:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/01/2014(UTC) Posts: 88 Location: Gävle, Sweden		Originally Posted by: T44friend Hello, Has any of you heard anything about Roco News 2018? Got this via email today http://www.roco.cc/de/news/catalogs/index.html
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5HorizonsRR		#14 Posted : 18 January 2018 16:01:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,865 Location: CA, USA		Lots of fun stuff here! I'll be picking up a few things for sure...
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river6109		#15 Posted : 19 January 2018 01:11:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,715 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Well for me its been a long waiting time for BLS Re 4/4's and they have 2 in the making with 2 different road numbers. I have 2 HAG Re 4/4's but they are not ready available on the second hand market and usually have a price tag associated with and unfortunately the ones which are for sale have the same road number over and over again. this will be my purchase for 2018 John
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5HorizonsRR		#16 Posted : 19 January 2018 01:22:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,865 Location: CA, USA		Originally Posted by: river6109 Well for me its been a long waiting time for BLS Re 4/4's and they have 2 in the making with 2 different road numbers. I have 2 HAG Re 4/4's but they are not ready available on the second hand market and usually have a price tag associated with and unfortunately the ones which are for sale have the same road number over and over again. this will be my purchase for 2018 John Agreed- do you have any idea what "long version" means for the one variant in the catalog?
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river6109		#17 Posted : 19 January 2018 01:47:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,715 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Originally Posted by: river6109 Well for me its been a long waiting time for BLS Re 4/4's and they have 2 in the making with 2 different road numbers. I have 2 HAG Re 4/4's but they are not ready available on the second hand market and usually have a price tag associated with and unfortunately the ones which are for sale have the same road number over and over again. this will be my purchase for 2018 John Agreed- do you have any idea what "long version" means for the one variant in the catalog? unfortunately no, I've read this myself and wondered., will have to ask Mike our Swiss specialist. another loco I would be interested in is the ETR 610 an other version of the similar RABDe 500 (ICN) (bought this one with its extension set) but no announcement for the ETR 610 have yet been made but Lima bought one out John
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GlennM		#18 Posted : 19 January 2018 08:46:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/05/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,886 Location: Somewhere, But Nowhere Near Manchester, England		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Originally Posted by: river6109 Well for me its been a long waiting time for BLS Re 4/4's and they have 2 in the making with 2 different road numbers. I have 2 HAG Re 4/4's but they are not ready available on the second hand market and usually have a price tag associated with and unfortunately the ones which are for sale have the same road number over and over again. this will be my purchase for 2018 John Agreed- do you have any idea what "long version" means for the one variant in the catalog? As part of the ongoing improvements to this loco, with road number 174, the housing was adjusted to make the locomotive 37 cm longer. I believe this to be the longer variant. Ver nice looking loco
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river6109		#19 Posted : 19 January 2018 10:01:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,715 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Originally Posted by: river6109 Well for me its been a long waiting time for BLS Re 4/4's and they have 2 in the making with 2 different road numbers. I have 2 HAG Re 4/4's but they are not ready available on the second hand market and usually have a price tag associated with and unfortunately the ones which are for sale have the same road number over and over again. this will be my purchase for 2018 John Agreed- do you have any idea what "long version" means for the one variant in the catalog? As part of the ongoing improvements to this loco, with road number 174, the housing was adjusted to make the locomotive 37 cm longer. I believe this to be the longer variant. Very nice looking loco yes under Wikipedia it states the length prior to the extension but doesn't explain what has been extended. (15000 mm to 15470mm)
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5HorizonsRR		#20 Posted : 25 January 2018 15:22:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,865 Location: CA, USA		Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Originally Posted by: river6109 Well for me its been a long waiting time for BLS Re 4/4's and they have 2 in the making with 2 different road numbers. I have 2 HAG Re 4/4's but they are not ready available on the second hand market and usually have a price tag associated with and unfortunately the ones which are for sale have the same road number over and over again. this will be my purchase for 2018 John Agreed- do you have any idea what "long version" means for the one variant in the catalog? As part of the ongoing improvements to this loco, with road number 174, the housing was adjusted to make the locomotive 37 cm longer. I believe this to be the longer variant. Ver nice looking loco Further irony is the Roco models are the same 178mm length. I can't afford both, so I'm at a bit of a loss on which to buy
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river6109		#21 Posted : 25 January 2018 16:40:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,715 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Originally Posted by: GlennM Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Originally Posted by: river6109 Well for me its been a long waiting time for BLS Re 4/4's and they have 2 in the making with 2 different road numbers. I have 2 HAG Re 4/4's but they are not ready available on the second hand market and usually have a price tag associated with and unfortunately the ones which are for sale have the same road number over and over again. this will be my purchase for 2018 John Agreed- do you have any idea what "long version" means for the one variant in the catalog? As part of the ongoing improvements to this loco, with road number 174, the housing was adjusted to make the locomotive 37 cm longer. I believe this to be the longer variant. Ver nice looking loco Further irony is the Roco models are the same 178mm length. I can't afford both, so I'm at a bit of a loss on which to buy I've ordered 2, so this will be it. road number 174 is Frutigen, Swiss Locomotive machine works No. 4894, 189 = Niedergesteln, Swiss locomotive machine works No. 5045 BlS 174 = BLS cargo BLS 189 = is allowed to be used as front loco and is used at the Lötgschberg-Basistunnel and the new track section between Mattstetten–Rothrist
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5HorizonsRR		#22 Posted : 25 January 2018 17:09:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,865 Location: CA, USA		Nice- 189 is my plan as well, for my HAG auto carrier tunnel train, that is unless the long version is something I can't live without. Getting both are tempting, but buying 2 identical locos is a trend I'm currently sprinting away from, prototypical consist or not
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Minok		#23 Posted : 25 January 2018 22:05:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,311 Location: Washington, Pacific Northwest		2018 items? I'm still waiting on the 2017 items they announced LAST January (that were scheduled to be delivered in Dec 2017) to show up... That and roco.cc has been marked as a 'bad domain' by my corporate firewall, so I can no longer access it from work :(
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kiwiAlan		#24 Posted : 25 January 2018 23:48:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,103 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Minok 2018 items? I'm still waiting on the 2017 items they announced LAST January (that were scheduled to be delivered in Dec 2017) to show up... That and roco.cc has been marked as a 'bad domain' by my corporate firewall, so I can no longer access it from work :( Its all that model railroad porn you have been looking at ...
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Minok		#25 Posted : 26 January 2018 00:10:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,311 Location: Washington, Pacific Northwest		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Minok 2018 items? I'm still waiting on the 2017 items they announced LAST January (that were scheduled to be delivered in Dec 2017) to show up... That and roco.cc has been marked as a 'bad domain' by my corporate firewall, so I can no longer access it from work :( Its all that model railroad porn you have been looking at ... Could well be. I figured ok maybe I just got bit with the Roco announced it in Jan 2017 and then never produced it issue. I'd assumed that if they announce a product they intended to produce it; LokShop still shows it as backordered in the status messages. Then I realized I can just use my phone and check the website, so I was able to pull up the catalog entries for the items anyway. Tip, use your phone for train porn. So the items that were to be produced in 12/2017 and 1/2018 have now been pushed back to 2018 CW6 - which is middle of February 2018. So time to wait another 4 weeks and see whats what. The "New for 2017" items are now solidly "New fro 2018" items, though they don't show as new for 2018 items of course.
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mike c		#26 Posted : 26 January 2018 00:57:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 7,892 Location: Montreal, QC		When sites like Roco, etc get flagged as dangerous, it is likely because they are on a server where viruses or other malware has been detected or reported, leading to all sites using that server being flagged. This is often due to Google analytics or info gathered by the virus defenders and then reported to their users. It is interesting that some browsers will pop up these warnings while others won't react to them and some antivirus software will only let you know you have been infected after you have been infected, rather than when you first browse to the site in question (warning). Regards Mike C
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PhillipL		#27 Posted : 26 January 2018 01:04:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/12/2012(UTC) Posts: 123		Browsing thru the new items I noticed several locomotives are are expected to delivered around week 19 of 2019!
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H0		#28 Posted : 26 January 2018 08:33:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,265 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Minok 2018 items? I'm still waiting on the 2017 items they announced LAST January (that were scheduled to be delivered in Dec 2017) to show up... I'm waiting for Märklin items that were announced last January and that were scheduled for May. ESU don't announce much this year, but several 2017 announcements haven't shipped yet. Most brands play the "announce early, deliver late" game. And the winner is LS Models ... Think positive: frustrated customers spend less money on pre-orders.
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