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analogmike		#1 Posted : 30 October 2017 01:13:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 741 Location: NEW JERSEY, USA		Hello all, I saw a commercial for the new "Murder on the Orient express" movie and was curious as to what type of lok Hollywood wants us to believe is accurate for this train. They have it numbered as a class 241 however, I went googling and was unable to find one that looks as crazy as this one. Any thoughts? Mikey
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Pmare4		#2 Posted : 30 October 2017 02:04:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/10/2015(UTC) Posts: 237 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia		Hi Mike The lok is SNCF 241A65 with some modification to the front end. This is the same one as the new Marklin model. regards Peter
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kimballthurlow		#3 Posted : 30 October 2017 08:34:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,669 Location: Brisbane, Australia		From that photo, it looks like they have used a lot of models (probably any scale from 1:100 to 1:10 etc) and digital imaging. Kimball
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Pmare4		#4 Posted : 30 October 2017 09:33:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/10/2015(UTC) Posts: 237 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia		Hi Kimball, I don't know about that. Even if some scenes are made with CGI I doubt the rest of the film will be. German wikipedia says this on the SNCF 241A: Sie wird im Remake vom Film "Mord im Orient-Express" mit Johnny Depp und Michelle Pfeiffer in Szenen zu sehen sein, welche auf der Strecke der Schweizer Kleinbahn "Sursee-Triengen-Bahn" gedreht wurden. In English: The loco will be featured in the remake of the film "Murder on the Orient Express" with Johnny Depp and Michelle Pfeiffer. It will be able to be seen in scenes, which are to be filmed on the line of the Swiss small railway "Sursee Triengen Bahn." regards Peter
		Peter Collecting vintage Märklin from 1935-1970, also Hornby O Gauge
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Unholz		#5 Posted : 30 October 2017 09:49:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,394 Location: Switzerland		This video shows the loco 241 A 65 during the film shooting on the Sursee-Triengen railway (you can skip the publicity video after a couple of seconds): http://www.20min.ch/schw...alschweiz/story/23497038
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analogmike		#6 Posted : 30 October 2017 11:09:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 741 Location: NEW JERSEY, USA		They probably CGI the snow plow and the center of the smokebox headlight when they need to show the front end. The snow is probably imaged in too. It reminds me of Jack Lemon's car in The Great Race.
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kiwiAlan		#7 Posted : 30 October 2017 14:35:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Pmare4 Hi Mike The lok is SNCF 241A65 with some modification to the front end. This is the same one as the new Marklin model. regards Peter I doubt this, the movie was filmed in susses (in the UK) so they would have to have transported the loco to the UK, which would have created a lot of interest in the RR fraternity here. There is a photo in the UK Radio Times that has this weeks programs, of the movie set, and it describes it as a 'purpose built set' (I'm paraphrasing slightly as I can't remember it exactly). I suspect it is a british loco made up (in someones imagination) to look like a 241A.
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steventrain		#8 Posted : 30 October 2017 16:38:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		The smoke deflectors look same but have swapped smoke deflector from left to right side and other right to left side during the filming.
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analogmike		#9 Posted : 30 October 2017 17:16:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 741 Location: NEW JERSEY, USA		I got more info. The film was made at Longcross Studios in Surrey. Note the CGI screens. No info on the lok yet. Boy oh boy look at all the trouble they went through. I could have saved them allot of money and just did it on my layout. Mikey
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Leitner		#10 Posted : 30 October 2017 18:36:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 274		The wagons looks terrible.
		Ep. III (My layout is set in 1962). I collect mainly DSB, DB and SBB but I'm quite... Open minded. I'm quite a big collector of NOHAB lok :)
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analogmike		#11 Posted : 30 October 2017 22:02:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 741 Location: NEW JERSEY, USA		It just occurred to me; The only live steam locomotives with this much snow stuck to them are the ones parked outside museums as static displays. Mikey
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kiwiAlan		#12 Posted : 05 November 2017 00:05:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Well, if you could find a snow weathered 241A (Nurnberg show loco prediction?) then you could use some new LS Models coaches that have been produced for the movie.
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AmalfiCoast		#13 Posted : 05 November 2017 00:26:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2016(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Maryland, South Laurel		How many coaches are included with this LS Models set? Are they all covered with snow as shown in the photo?
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AmalfiCoast		#14 Posted : 05 November 2017 03:16:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/11/2016(UTC) Posts: 153 Location: Maryland, South Laurel		It looks like you get one coach and 10 figures, for $150 USD...ouch!! https://www.modellbahnsh...-gb-p-0/ein_produkt.html
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kiwiAlan		#15 Posted : 05 November 2017 12:58:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: AmalfiCoast It looks like you get one coach and 10 figures, for $150 USD...ouch!! https://www.modellbahnsh...-gb-p-0/ein_produkt.html Yes, that is my reading of it too. The Modelbahn Lippe page itemises the contents better than the Modellbahn Kramm page.
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Leitner		#16 Posted : 05 November 2017 13:14:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 274		If you think the loco is bad...
		Ep. III (My layout is set in 1962). I collect mainly DSB, DB and SBB but I'm quite... Open minded. I'm quite a big collector of NOHAB lok :)
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Rwill		#17 Posted : 05 November 2017 14:49:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/05/2015(UTC) Posts: 777 Location: England, London		Well according to the UK newspaper - The SUN the filming locations are shown here: https://www.thesun.co.uk...-st-bernard-pass-london/
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