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Märklin BR 120 (3653) - 60760 HLA conversion - Ball Bearings, Buffer Capacitor, F1 and F3 enabled
Joined: 02/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 683
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A few month ago, I replaced the decoder of my Märklin 120 003-9 (3653) with the 60760 decoder and 5-pole HLA motor. The simple 60760 decoder officially supports only the standard light ports (LV / LR) but no additional free AUX ports. But there are two undocumented AUX ports available. F3 is an amplified AUX port that can be connected directly, F1 is a non-amplified logic level port, that must be amplified before using. For the beginning, I connected a control cab light to F3. On the right side, You can see the buffer capacitor:  To enable the non-amplified F1, You can take a lokk to this document: http://www.web-hgh.de/pp...l/Decoder-Tuning_pic.pdfor to my circuit plan, including the buffer capacitor with resistor and Schottky Diode:  Here the motor shield equipped with ball bearing:  And here the control cab with interior light (much to bright):   Edited by user 09 October 2014 08:51:29(UTC)
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 9 users liked this useful post by Moritz-BR365
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Joined: 02/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 683
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And here the loco in full view:  |
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Joined: 09/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,343 Location: Southwest Ohio
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Matt Era 3 DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control. With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397. |
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Joined: 02/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 683
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Originally Posted by: biedmatt  Thanks, but I hjave already some Dual-MOSFETs here at home. I will solder it myself and put it in a shrink hose and use it for decoders with two not-amplified AUX ports like the Esu LokPilot/LokSound. Alternatevly for a single AUX I have also some transistors and resisitors here, too. |
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Joined: 02/04/2013(UTC) Posts: 683
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Enable F1 AUX port on 60760 fx decoderThese are the needed parts to enable the un-amplified F1 AUX port:  The transistor and capacitor are soldered with the cables and put into the shrink hose:  The white cable is the decoder GND (in the circuit plan it is purple) and the brown-green one is connected to the low-level F1 AUX port:  The orange one is ready to be connected to an electrical load (light bulb, LED, ...):  There is no function mapping needed, the AUX port is already mapped to F1. On the MS2 You only have to activate the F1 button! |
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Joined: 24/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 178 Location: uk
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thankyou sooo much for posting this excellent article - the pictures and diagrams are fantastic and make it easier to understand the procedure - thankyou for showing this!
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Joined: 29/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 301 Location: Sheffield,
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Great article, how effective are you finding the capacitor?
Also this image seems to be missing... ”circuit plan, including the buffer capacitor with resistor and Schottky Diode:” |
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Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,768 Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Considering how cheap decoders are now, I'd bin the 60760 and install a ESU Lopi or similar for 126 speed steps and better features. |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,772 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: applor  Considering how cheap decoders are now, I'd bin the 60760 and install a ESU Lopi or similar for 126 speed steps and better features. I wouldn't bin the 60760, in fact I'm happy to use more of them. 126 speed steps are way over rated - that's umpteen turns on your controller knob to get the decoder up to max speed and an umpteen more to slow it down! I honestly don't understand this 'wow wee' nonsense over 126 speed steps! 28 is the max you (I) need.
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Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Originally Posted by: applor  Considering how cheap decoders are now, I'd bin the 60760 and install a ESU Lopi or similar for 126 speed steps and better features. I wouldn't bin the 60760, in fact I'm happy to use more of them. 126 speed steps are way over rated - that's umpteen turns on your controller knob to get the decoder up to max speed and an umpteen more to slow it down! I honestly don't understand this 'wow wee' nonsense over 126 speed steps! 28 is the max you (I) need. there is some truth in it. all my locos are set on a 126 speed step but I've found by the time they get to the top speed they already entering another station area.my layout is suited for 126 steps but this would be without stopping and if this is how you operate your train 126 speed steps are fine John |
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Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,594 Location: Australia
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+1 on the 126 speed steps.. It reminds me of a Prime Minister that said people will never need an Internet speed of 100mps at home.. |
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Joined: 21/05/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,768 Location: Brisbane, Queensland
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Originally Posted by: applor  Considering how cheap decoders are now, I'd bin the 60760 and install a ESU Lopi or similar for 126 speed steps and better features. I wouldn't bin the 60760, in fact I'm happy to use more of them. 126 speed steps are way over rated - that's umpteen turns on your controller knob to get the decoder up to max speed and an umpteen more to slow it down! I honestly don't understand this 'wow wee' nonsense over 126 speed steps! 28 is the max you (I) need. I disagree completely. Sure when the loco is at speed its not a big deal but if you want smooth slow speed acceleration and deceleration you need 126 speed steps. The old Marklin 6090 decoders are an exception because even though they have 27 speed steps, the speed steps are smoothed and I find them acceptable though still not as good as 126 speed steps. I found the 60760 speed steps to be very harsh at low speeds and would not use it again. |
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Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,804 Location: Crozet, Virginia
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Originally Posted by: applor  I found the 60760 speed steps to be very harsh at low speeds and would not use it again.
That was my experience as well. I recently removed that decoder from my Class 103 which I upgrade a couple of years ago. This time I used an mSD/3 and the difference in performance from the same motor is amazing. It now runs very smoothly and at an amazingly small number of speed steps without a stumble or a jerk (operator excepted). |
Regards,
Jim
I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains!
So many trains and so little time. |
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