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Sander van Wijk		#1 Posted : 19 July 2005 22:52:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hi all, I've recently acquired a BR 18.4 (art. no. 55003) for a very nice price. Although it doesn't fit in my epoche nor scale, it was just too tempting. Now I'm trying to gain enough courage to try to steam up the beauty. A look at the does anyone have experience or advice on using this machine? Thanks in advance! Yours,
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hmsfix		#2 Posted : 20 July 2005 02:27:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,		Hi Sander, What a model ! I am deeply impressed and it took me 10 minutes to get my mouth closed when I have red your post. I never saw a real 55003, but I suppose there is a operation manual included ? If not you could perhaps obtain it as a spare part. Also, the construction schematics from the M* service pages might be useful. I have myself collected a few toy steam engines. But a livesteam BR 18.4, this beats out anything else. Have much fun with it. Hans Martin
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stephenbb		#3 Posted : 20 July 2005 05:39:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Sorry I can't help you We can't legally purchase live steam in the US. Stephen(USA)
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7gauges		#4 Posted : 20 July 2005 06:49:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2002(UTC) Posts: 328		Congratulations - I have the BR 18 and the BR 89 (55001) - and both are fantastic models. There is an excellent review of how to steam up the BR 18 in one of the 01 or 02/2005 Marklin Magazins - there was also a link on the old Marklin.de Insider forum to a ten minute video on running the engine - beats the crappy Marklin Instructions. The BR89 (55001) came with a video instruction casette - that was very well done - I had to have it converted to a N.American DVD format for it to be useful, however. just make sure your track is well attached to the base of the gardenlayout - the BR18 will chew it up otherwise - and derailing a firebreathing, gas fuelled engine - may result in a major "incident". I also have a Mamod gauge 1 solid fuel steam engine - the downside is no RC throttle - and those esbit solid fuel tablets are kind of messy - never mind the open flame. I also have the Hielscher livesteam "Glaskasten" for HO gauge - this is an acohol fuelled engine - but not very powerful. - very cool and affordable nonetheless - see it (and others) at http://www.hielscher-dampfmodelle.de/. Also check their Wuppertal Schwebebahn models made of lithographed tinplate. lastly I brokedown after watching the new insider DVD and got one of those beautiful Maerklin stationary live steam engines - beats the Wilesco engines hands down -
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grnwtrs		#5 Posted : 20 July 2005 08:07:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/06/2005(UTC) Posts: 669 Location: El Sobrante, California		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by stephenbb <br />Sorry I can't help you We can't legally purchase live steam in the US. Stephen(USA) Hi there, Why is it illegal to purchase live steam in the US. I have heard of a couple of live steam clubs in the San Francisco Bay area. I am still in the toy stage with now discontinued MAXI Gene El Sobrante, CA on the left coase
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Sander van Wijk		#6 Posted : 20 July 2005 16:38:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hi All, Thanks for the tips! It really is a stunning model, very nicely detailed and really impressive technique. When I decide to run it I'll make some pictures and post them here! 7gauges: thanks for mentioning the article in the Märklin Magazin, I already forgot it existed since I didn't plan to buy this loco at first. There really is interesting information in it! By the way, it looks like you have a pretty impressive collection! Did you run the BR 89 and-or BR 18 yourself? If so... did you like it? Unforunately I have to wait running this beauty since M forgot to supply the Märklin Superheated Steam Oil. [:(] So I guess I'll go on holiday first and see afterwarts. Looking at this machine is a joy too!
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stephenbb		#7 Posted : 21 July 2005 01:27:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Underwriters Lab says their to dangour for us to own. I still have my live steam engine from my Gilbert set from 1952. Stephen(USA)
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verheyen		#8 Posted : 21 July 2005 02:54:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 639 Location: ,		Are you sure? I've found several dealers offering it in the US, and Hornby has taken our full page ads for the livesteam Mallard, and they're even coming out with another pacific. There are other livesteam manufactures selling models here too, at least that's what I thought I saw based on some US prototypes at a local livesteam event. Those were in Garden scale. p. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by stephenbb <br />Underwriters Lab says their to dangour for us to own. I still have my live steam engine from my Gilbert set from 1952. Stephen(USA)
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john black		#9 Posted : 21 July 2005 17:15:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by stephenbb <br />Underwriters Lab says their to dangour for us to own Ah, really ? We can show 'em what's dangerous for them ... [xx(][}:)]
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7gauges		#10 Posted : 21 July 2005 18:32:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2002(UTC) Posts: 328		I believe the lack of availability in North America had to do with the frequency at which the RC throttle operates - I think it's a reserved frequency in North America - don't know for what, however.
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Sander van Wijk		#11 Posted : 22 July 2005 13:01:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		The Grauphner RC set that's supplied with the Märklin 55003 operates at 40 MHz. If that would be the problem it could easily be solved. The RC reciever could easily be replaced by just unplugging it and installing a version allowed in the US. The transmitter of course, is even more simple... I hope you'll all be able to have such a great item in your collections! (Although I realise the price is quite high for a real must-have item... )
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stephenbb		#12 Posted : 22 July 2005 16:17:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Yes you can find models that have been approved and carry UL rating. If you check with M they will advise that they dn't ship into USA live steam. Nothing prevents you from buying from private seller. Stepkem(USA)
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rocousa		#13 Posted : 23 July 2005 07:13:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2005(UTC) Posts: 1 Location: MIAMI, FLORIDA		Hi, new here. The 55003 is not ILLEGAL in the USA. Marklin GmbH did not wanted to be involved in any possible sue due a child being burned by touching a boiling "boiler" or live steam coming out of the pistons or rising the pressure inside the boiler to a point where it can blow up or having to play with fire without supervision as always happens. As in the USA sues are a daily matter, they said not available to American Dealers direct from Factory, but there are many ways arround. There is an issue also on the frequency of the radio transmiter/receiver, but can be easily solved changing the crystals to any other frequency such as used on RC cars. The fact that the original frequency of the crystals is not allowed in the USA for this toy, does not make it illegal. It will be illegal the use of the radio but again, with about $ 12.00 you solve the problem in any Toy Store that sells radio control cars.
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Sander van Wijk		#14 Posted : 23 July 2005 16:23:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hi William, welcome! Sound like a very reasonable explanation, I wouldn't like to get involved in a sue too... Anyway, I have my livesteam loco.
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john black		#15 Posted : 23 July 2005 18:39:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi William - welcome to The Forum John
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steventrain		#16 Posted : 24 July 2005 18:57:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Welcome to the forum.
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franciscohg		#17 Posted : 25 July 2005 09:05:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 3,274 Location: Patagonia		Welcome to the forum William............. NIce store the one you have............i buy some of my parts there.........
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steventrain		#18 Posted : 25 July 2005 10:09:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Send post photo here to see live steam in action
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Sander van Wijk		#19 Posted : 25 July 2005 14:49:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hi Steven, I will, when Märklin delivers me the steam oil I can start test running it and I will make pictures of course! Unfortunately this all won't be done before half augustus since I'm going on a vacation...
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john black		#20 Posted : 25 July 2005 15:48:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Congratulations, Sander - what a beauty [:p][:p][:p] In the meantime - dream for steam ... John
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steventrain		#21 Posted : 05 August 2005 14:37:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Sander van Wijk <br />Hi Steven, I will, when Märklin delivers me the steam oil I can start test running it and I will make pictures of course! Unfortunately this all won't be done before half augustus since I'm going on a vacation... Thats all right.
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Sander van Wijk		#22 Posted : 17 August 2005 01:25:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hi all, Just arrived back from my holiday and found the oil I was waiting for... a test run (including shooting some pictures of course) is planned for next wednesday. So... just 7 more days to wait. I'll try to post some pictures of the machine in running order asap!
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steventrain		#23 Posted : 18 August 2005 00:29:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		I cant wait to see it.
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antylee		#24 Posted : 19 August 2005 09:19:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 4 Location: Chia Yi,		Hi all: I am new here. I have a Marklin 55003. I got it in Feb. and returned it back for repair. now it is back. I fired it and the Lok did not move this time. Even the steam pressure was above 3 bars. I do not why. Do you have a such problem?
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steventrain		#25 Posted : 19 August 2005 10:39:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Welcome to the forum antylee.
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Sander van Wijk		#26 Posted : 19 August 2005 10:48:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by antylee <br /> I fired it and the Lok did not move this time. Even the steam pressure was above 3 bars. I do not why. Do you have a such problem? Welcome! I hope not... We'll see next week...
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7gauges		#27 Posted : 19 August 2005 16:11:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2002(UTC) Posts: 328		This may help: " Die zwei Steuerknüppel der Fernsteuerung sollten , wie üblich für Live-steam Lokomotiven , die Rückfeder entfernt werden, so kann der Steuerhebel in jede Position bleiben (auch Regler auf "zu") Der Stromkabel für den Empfänger wurde von Märklin zu weit nach hinten befestigt. Das lässt sich leicht ändern. Falls das Schauglass undicht ist, sollten die Abdichtmuttern mit der Hand festziehen lassen." or in poor english: The two control sticks of the remote control should be removed, as usual for live-steam locomotives, the back feather/spring, then the control lever can remain into each position (also automatic controller on "too") the stromkabel for the receiver from Maerklin to far was to the rear fastened. That can be changed easily. If the Schauglass is leaky, the sealing nuts/mothers with the hand should tighten let. Anyway - did this to both my 55001 and 55003 - and they work well.
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Tolis		#28 Posted : 19 August 2005 17:26:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 152 Location: ,		Sander Ive seen it from friends. It depicts reality more than any H0 or electric Scale 1 model. However, as much as I hate sounding like Hitler, if you plan operating it, I have to use caps, for the sake of all toddlers of the world, and say KEEP ALL CHILDREN AWAY. THATS AN ORDER. Pressures and temperatures developed in the boiler are more than sufficient to cause harm. Unfortunately big M has only one relief valve built in. High temperatures are inevitable on the whole loco body, so please take care when using it. But do it and send us some pics. When you finish playing, open up the valve until you hear the prototypical TSCHHHHHHHH. Only then you know there is no pressure buildup in your model and you can put it in a display window. Forgive me if this post sounds harsh. It so happens, we Greeks would rather use swearwords on God, than put a child in danger. Just keep them at a safe distance. Tolis
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antylee		#29 Posted : 20 August 2005 20:09:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 4 Location: Chia Yi,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:7gauges If the Schauglass is leaky, the sealing nuts/mothers with the hand should tighten let. Could you tell me the" Schauglass". My remoter control is OK. I think there is leakage in the piston. The steam could not drive the pistons. The reason for repair is one of the side rod twisted and Marklin changed a new one for it.The rod links to upper half of the piston. I think there maybe something wrong in the piston. I mail to the technique department of Marklin. The mails were fail to delivery. I would test to fire the Lok again tomorrow.
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7gauges		#30 Posted : 21 August 2005 02:46:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2002(UTC) Posts: 328		Schauglass = sightglass in the cab of the engine - it tells you what the water level is..... If it is leaking then there will be no steam pressure at the cylinders - it is no longer a closed system.
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antylee		#31 Posted : 25 August 2005 08:40:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 4 Location: Chia Yi,		Hi all: I fired the Lok again and the leakage in the sight glass i snot much. The pressure could reach to 3 bars. I think the cylinder may be not a close system.(except to the valves). I am still waiting for Marklin response.(6-8 weeks)
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5HorizonsRR		#32 Posted : 25 August 2005 09:07:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,865 Location: CA, USA		I finally saw one in person this past weekend. I WANT IT!!!!! [}:)][}:)][}:)] Its so cool and very nicely done. Best of all it doesn't need to be retrofitted with rc equipment etc... like Accucraft locomotives.
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Sander van Wijk		#33 Posted : 25 August 2005 11:22:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hi Tolis, all, Thanks very much for your responses! Especially Tolis, your response is very usefull, I wouldn't even dare calling it harsh, I would call it very good! Anyway, IF the summmerwheather here (we have a very rainy summer) will show us some sun tomorrowmorning we will try to run this beauty. I'll keep you informed! To Antylee: I hope your problems will be solved so you can enjoy this beauty more!
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Sander van Wijk		#34 Posted : 29 August 2005 16:21:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hi all, Here's a message from the sunny Netherlands. Today I've fired the BR 18.4. Unfortunately with a dissappointing result. [:(] After a quite long time burning (for at least 25 minutes) the loco still didn't build up any pressure so I inspected it on leakages in the Schauglass area and the rest of the loco but I didn't find anything. Another problem is the constant failure of the Piezo mechanism to fire the loco automatically. (Didn't work even once) So I fired it by hand with lighter and long matchsticks. I did make some pictures, I'll post them soon. I'm going to send the loco back to Märklin so they can fix the Piezo problem and probably something more. Hopefully it's going to work soon... Now... I'm going to get some sun to relax...
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hmsfix		#35 Posted : 29 August 2005 19:34:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,		Very interested to hear about you progress. Making a steam engine work is really hard engineering. When I am running one of my toy engines, it is quite the same (it's a much simpler one than the BR 18.4, of course). It takes me one complete day to make it work and one week to clean up everything afterwards. As a very useful tool I use an air pump (+ rubber pipe with special mouth piece) to put some air pressure on the boiler before I heat it up. So I can see if there are any leakages and if the engine is mechanically o.k. Also to blow out superfluous oil or water from the cylinder. Oh, and one important tip: never, never speak any curses in presence of a steam engine, it will resent that. Hans Martin
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Sander van Wijk		#36 Posted : 29 August 2005 21:13:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hi Hans, Thanks for your response and advice. First I'll have to wait for Märklins response to see what's going to happen. I'll keep you (all) informed!
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john black		#37 Posted : 29 August 2005 22:50:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hmsfix <br />Oh, and one important tip: never, never speak any curses in presence of a steam engine, it will resent that Hi Hans Martin, this is most interesting information. Can you give further explanation, please ? Thank you, John
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hmsfix		#38 Posted : 30 August 2005 02:08:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hmsfix <br />Oh, and one important tip: never, never speak any curses in presence of a steam engine, it will resent that Hi Hans Martin, this is most interesting information. Can you give further explanation, please ? Hi John, Yes, indeed, never curse or get impatient or even angry when operating a steam machine. Laugh at me, but it is really true ! I have milled valves, cylinders, and bearings myself and know that it is a delicate matter. Well, a steam machine is made of steel, copper, and brass, it can't hear even the worst curses, of course. But it is able to sense your mood. Just as David Copperfield. And it's no mystery. How is this possible ? A steam machine consists of a large number of high precision parts, each of them designed by an engineer, milled or die casted by a craftsman. These parts must be manufactured with extremely high quality, otherwise the machine won't work. However, amongst hundreds of such parts there are sometimes one or two that are in some respect not as they should be. They don't like working together with the other components. Finally they do, but still tend to be "selfish". The engineer and the craftsman have already cursed on these parts, so you don't need to curse yourself. The rest is simple psychology. Assume that there occurs a problem with the machine one day. Trying to get the machine running again you have to fight the same struggle as the constructors did. Now it is important not to fall into negative emotions about the problem, otherwise your reasoning gets struck in the same circles that have already made the engineer/craftsman fail. So, if you curse on the machine, the "selfish" parts in it enjoy their revenge. Hans Martin
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Sander van Wijk		#39 Posted : 30 August 2005 10:33:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Hmmm well.. Interesting information. However, I didn't curse or even got impatient and it still doesn't work. I guess my loco has some very selfish parts . We'll see, it will run, once...
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antylee		#40 Posted : 30 August 2005 19:18:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 4 Location: Chia Yi,		Hi All: I fire up for twice and noted there are steam leakage from the cylinder. Is this normal? I doubt the cylinders are not in close system and it is the reason why it does not move. I have the reason to doubt this. (I send it back for repair due to the rod got twisted. The marklin changed a new one. They had to seperate the rod from the cylinder.) Does any one has experience to remove the cylinder cover? About the firing system, it does not work well. Initial firing would have a big fire, and this would burn the coating of firing wire.( expecially you are not familiar with the " suitable" fire. I got the problem and marklin changed a new one for me, but it did not work again. I use silicone to coat the exposed wire, it somtimes fire well. Now I give up the firing system. I use a lighter with long end to fire the boiler, it is easy and work well. To Sander: You fire the Lok and control the servos on the Lok, maybe some leakage during firing. Cotrol the remoter until you get less noise from the lok.(the noise is steam leakage). Keep the servo in the position(just turn off the remoter). In a few mins, the pressure would get up. Hope this would help you.
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john black		#41 Posted : 30 August 2005 21:23:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hmsfix <br />Yes, indeed, never curse or get impatient or even angry when operating a steam machine. Laugh at me, but it is really true ! Well, a steam machine is able to sense your mood. However, amongst hundreds of such parts there are sometimes one or two that are in some respect not as they should be. They don't like working together with the other components. Finally they do, but still tend to be "selfish". The rest is simple psychology. Now it is important not to fall into negative emotions about the problem Hans Martin : I'd never ever laugh at you - we're talking parapsychology and "the other side" here, and this is serious business (let alone some pranksters and their hoaxes). I've seen things at my job you would never believe, Sir. Me, too - if my colleagues and I hadn't seen it "live" ... [xx(] I knew such can happen with cars (thus never laugh at Stephen King's "Christine" - there's a lot of truth in the story) but I didn't think about locos. Well, it's logical. Since I'm not rich and got no money to waste I treat all my stuff with tender loving care, hoping it will last a looong time Many thanks for your advice, Hans Martin John
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hmsfix		#42 Posted : 31 August 2005 01:55:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,383 Location: Darmstadt,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br /> I knew such can happen with cars (thus never laugh at Stephen King's "Christine" - there's a lot of truth in the story) but I didn't think about locos. Well, it's logical. Hi John, Uh, this film was on TV here few months ago, too. I hope there is no lok named Christine, even on Z scale Hans Martin
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john black		#43 Posted : 31 August 2005 02:18:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hmsfix <br />I hope there is no lok named Christine I, too
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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Sander van Wijk		#44 Posted : 28 February 2006 00:34:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Finally an update in this case! A few weeks ago I've recieved the loco from the Märklin Service. Today I've found some time to try to test run it again and... it's alive! Great! It took me a while to get it going, especially adjusting the throttle to get it burning just hard enough to get pressure without burning it. (Like perhaps happened an earlier time) Conclusions: - The ignition is still working properly after two runs of about 3 mins each. - The loco is under pressure within 6 minutes after firing it - It's able to run at quite a high speed, not at running a very low one. (Probably due to the one-cylinder design) - It takes a while to get it going, but it's definately worth the wait! - It's such a beauty!!!
		Sander --- Era I(b): K.Bay.Sts.B. and K.W.St.E.
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Purellum		#45 Posted : 28 February 2006 00:41:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,505 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Congratulations Sander. Nice pics will be appreciated!! Per.
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john black		#46 Posted : 28 February 2006 23:05:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Yep, you managed it - big congratulations, Sander [:p] !!!
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Sander van Wijk		#47 Posted : 19 March 2006 13:22:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Thanks John! I would love to share some pictures of the first run. Unfortunately my digicam ran out of batteries, so I don't have any pictures but the pictures of the very first run (which turned out to be a failure) Luckily, tomorrow I'll have a day off, so probably I'll run it again. (It's becoming quite an addiction ) If I'll run it again I'll definately post some pictures.
		Sander --- Era I(b): K.Bay.Sts.B. and K.W.St.E.
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Purellum		#48 Posted : 19 March 2006 15:48:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/11/2005(UTC) Posts: 3,505 Location: Mullerup, 4200 Slagelse		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:ran out of batteries Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:If I'll run it again I'll definately post some pictures. [:p][:p][:p][:p] Per.
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steventrain		#49 Posted : 19 March 2006 16:32:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Look forward to see the picture(s)
		Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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stephenbb		#50 Posted : 19 March 2006 16:33:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		What do you mean ran out of batteries. Why couldn't you use "steam power" Technology isn't it wonderful. I still keepmy old brownie camera around for pictures! of course finding 110 film is almost impossible. Even 35mm is hard to find in some places. Stephen(USA)
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