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steventrain		#1 Posted : 09 July 2005 15:05:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		I have notice see the marklin GG-1 silver edition. see here on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws...item=5986126205&rd=1
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john black		#2 Posted : 09 July 2005 15:48:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Thanks for the link, Steven - excellent! Trouble is, for unknown reasons M isn't willing to post their Special Edition Models with picture & data sheet in their web data base (as doing so with ALL other items - ya find every f****** screw there). No single high quality pic by factory on 37992 (BigBoy, weathered) or 37978 (Mikado, weathered), too !!! In case they don't know - there're lots of customers who not only buy their $$$ locos but also download, print and collect the related documentation. What a poor policy ... [xx(][xx(][xx(] John
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Munich 1860		#3 Posted : 09 July 2005 16:21:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: Neu-Ulm, Bavaria		@ John: That's the very reason for the existence of forums like ours .... Johann
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john black		#4 Posted : 09 July 2005 17:08:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Yeah ...
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foumaro		#5 Posted : 10 July 2005 20:54:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,430 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		I have already order this item.It is excellent.
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jonquinn		#6 Posted : 11 July 2005 05:54:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		odd this would be out before the normal painted version. I'm not interested in the metal finish versions. Now maybe if they made a titanium version, but it couldn't be injection die molded - powder metal maybe possible.
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john black		#7 Posted : 11 July 2005 11:17:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Really odd, yeah. But that picture gives us clear evidence ...
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laalves		#8 Posted : 12 July 2005 01:06:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,162 Location: Portugal		There's one interesting note though: there's railroad company markings, including a cheatline. I wonder if that is actually just an unpainted "Metall-Technologie Ausfuhrung" or actually a depiction of a real lok? Americans of this forum!!?? Please enlighten us! L
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john black		#9 Posted : 12 July 2005 01:41:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by laalves <br />or actually a depiction of a real lok? Luis: Wasn't even little when they released the prototype in 1934 thus I can't tell for sure. Ron ??? ... [:o)][}:)] Seriously, having digged through most of GG-1's web stuff and never found a silver one. Thus I'd guess #37491 is "only" a Collectors Edition with no prototypical background - similar to that silver Swiss Platinum Gator #32000. One dealer told me there'd be quite a few collectors who prefer just that color for display. Best Regards, John
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rschaffr		#10 Posted : 12 July 2005 02:28:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		I recently visited the PRR museum in Strasburg, PA, and there was no mention that I recall of a silver GG1 there in the GG1 history and display.
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jonquinn		#11 Posted : 12 July 2005 04:24:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		the logo on the side looked more like the old (1800's) marklin logo. PRR had no silver schemes from what I have seen.
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steventrain		#12 Posted : 12 July 2005 10:44:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jonquinn <br />the logo on the side looked more like the old (1800's) marklin logo. PRR had no silver schemes from what I have seen. The logo look possible same in before 1900s.
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Davy		#13 Posted : 12 July 2005 15:54:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,915 Location: Netherlands		I have seen him today by my dealer. He asked if I want to buy it. But already today I bought the mallet loc nr 37964. It is a beauty. So I don't have the money to buy the silver version of the GG1. I also wil not buy any elocs any more.
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stephenbb		#14 Posted : 12 July 2005 17:19:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Was the GG-1 a Raymond Lowey design?? Stephen(USA)
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Guus		#15 Posted : 12 July 2005 17:27:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi Stephen bb, This is a quotation I found on his contribution on the GG-1 Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Sometimes all that Loewy or his firm did was add finishing touches to an existing design; for example, Loewy is generally credited for the styling of the Pennsylvania Railroad's GG1 electric locomotive, but in actual fact the shape had already been devised by the PRR and its subcontractors. Loewy's influence was limited to suggesting that the bodyshell should be welded and smoothed, rather than riveted, and that a paint scheme involving a bundle of five lengthwise gold pinstripes in the center that curved down towards the locomotives' ends would set off the lines well. Those touches arguably turned a good design into a classic design, but the credit cannot be all Loewy's. Off topic,but I'm a great fan of his design [:p][:p] Best regards Guus
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Guus		#16 Posted : 12 July 2005 17:32:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,616		Hi Davy, Congratulations with your new locomotive .She is a really magnificent example of steam power if you ask me. Best regards Guus
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steventrain		#17 Posted : 12 July 2005 20:26:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Davy <br /> But already today I bought the mallet loc nr 37964. It is a beauty. Cogratulations on your new loco!
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steventrain		#18 Posted : 24 July 2005 23:53:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		I notice 37490 GG-1 Green now in stock.
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jeehring		#19 Posted : 31 July 2005 12:41:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		I've seen it , ....it's more black than green In fact it's a very dark brown , like the real one.... Nice machine , beautifull model ! It will become a great classical standard...from Marklin Paint and color scheme are superb , very heavy model . I didn't run it yet..I ' ve just seen it on static position
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jonquinn		#20 Posted : 31 July 2005 19:52:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,591 Location: Pennsylvania		brunswick green shouldn't look brown. it is largely black with a few parts green. The color brunswick green is reported to have been "invented" by a car shop foreman at the PRR Altoona shops being tired of the all-black locos so he dumped a few quarts of some sort of PRR approved green paint and dumped it into a 50 gal drum of black paint. This is per the PRR historical and technical site. Tuscan red is a vastly different shade, which does look red-brown. If this loco actually does have a brownish shade, maybe marklin should have visited the loco in harrisburg, PA
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john black		#21 Posted : 01 August 2005 10:03:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Yeah - the excellent live pictures Alberto took at Nuremberg Toy Fair show the classic Brunswick dark green [^] (no trace of any brownish hue). But from TRIX you can get that one, too ...
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jeehring		#22 Posted : 01 August 2005 13:31:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		well , I' don't care about the name....I just try to describe what I've seen.... May be I have some troubles with my eyes....or depending on the surrounding light.... First time I do see it black......beautifull matt black......after one or two minutes , I noticed it was not really black like other black items on the shell....that's all You may be right.....reflects were green instead of brown... but , you know....people don't have equal sensitivity about perceiving colours... bye
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steventrain		#23 Posted : 07 August 2005 12:47:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		What weight is the model GG-1 please,I never seen one[xx(].
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prc		#24 Posted : 07 August 2005 19:59:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />I have notice see the marklin GG-1 silver edition. see here on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws...item=5986126205&rd=1 Got mine last week, it lasted for about two hours and then nothing. The decoder is completely dead. Have to return it. That makes five out of ten loks in for repair/replacement. Great quality.....
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steventrain		#25 Posted : 07 August 2005 22:22:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Sorry to hear your loco faulty.
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stephenbb		#26 Posted : 07 August 2005 22:23:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		I was at the ETE show in Penna. yesterday Marklin had both the silver and painted version on display at their table. I also went to Strasburg. No info on Silver version, other then some info that Raymond Lowey used a mockup to create the version that finally become production without rivits. I really don't care if it were produced,it looks great and i'll get one when the price drops. I've already seen 389US. quoted. Stephen(USA)
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john black		#27 Posted : 08 August 2005 11:19:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc <br />Got mine last week, it lasted for about two hours and then nothing. The decoder is completely dead. Have to return it. That makes five out of ten loks in for repair/replacement. Great quality ... Wow [xx(] - sorry for you, Paul John
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stephenbb		#28 Posted : 08 August 2005 15:04:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		WOW! Sorry to hear that! maybe i'll wait even longer b/4 buying, or maybe they were ment to be bookends. Stephen(USA)
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john black		#29 Posted : 08 August 2005 15:26:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Good idea, Stephen. Seems to be the same story as with BR50's (#29820) teething troubles ... Thus I, too, will wait ... John
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ulf999		#30 Posted : 08 August 2005 15:53:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,908 Location: Stockholm, Sweden		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />I have notice see the marklin GG-1 silver edition. see here on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws...item=5986126205&rd=1 Got mine last week, it lasted for about two hours and then nothing. The decoder is completely dead. Have to return it. That makes five out of ten loks in for repair/replacement. Great quality..... I think I will also delay my eBay purchase for awhile...
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steventrain		#31 Posted : 08 August 2005 19:51:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		If you happy with warranty on loco.
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verheyen		#32 Posted : 08 August 2005 21:13:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 639 Location: ,		Are you by any chance running the Mfx lok using an analog transformer? Mfx decoders have a habit of dying in analog, especially with the blue transformers. According to Jeff Stimson (hope I got his name right) with whom several of us spoke at EuroEast, the only ones "approved" are the new beige analog transformers. The voltage surge during reversing is too much. Stimson is going to try to get more information though. I offered to let him place the GG1 on my switching puzzle so we could let it go back and forth for a while, but he politely declined. I was opposite the Märklin booth so got to eavesdrop on a lot of stuff. Apparently the club has lost about 30% of it's members in the US with that pattern repeated in other countries too... Peter Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ulf999 <br /> Got mine last week, it lasted for about two hours and then nothing. The decoder is completely dead. Have to return it. That makes five out of ten loks in for repair/replacement. Great quality.....
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john black		#33 Posted : 09 August 2005 04:10:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by verheyen <br />Mfx decoders have a habit of dying in analog, especially with the blue transformers. The voltage surge during reversing is too much Many thanks, Peter - this is most important information ! Well, if we expected such warning from M we forgot they're deeply asleep, most of the time ... John
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prc		#34 Posted : 09 August 2005 05:35:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		Quote: Originally posted by verheyen <br />Are you by any chance running the Mfx lok using an analog transformer? Mfx decoders have a habit of dying in analog, especially with the blue transformers. According to Jeff Stimson (hope I got his name right) with whom several of us spoke at EuroEast, the only ones "approved" are the new beige analog transformers. The voltage surge during reversing is too much. Stimson is going to try to get more information though. I offered to let him place the GG1 on my switching puzzle so we could let it go back and forth for a while, but he politely declined. Peter Peter, no I am not using analog, I do not even own any. I got started with the 29821 digital kit with the ms (guess where the BR50 is still waiting for repair - 8 months and counting). Thanks
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stephenbb		#35 Posted : 09 August 2005 06:32:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		Peter, My wife and I enjoyed meeting you at the show. I'm glad Strasburg was close . It made for a great day. Stephen(USA)
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john black		#36 Posted : 09 August 2005 19:04:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc <br />the BR50 is still waiting for repair - 8 months and counting So is this your 2nd big warranty case ... poor Paul, I'm with you ... and 8 months is an personal offense - give 'em fire [}:)][}:)][}:)] !!! John
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verheyen		#37 Posted : 09 August 2005 19:14:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 639 Location: ,		Likewise, the pleasure was mine. p. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by stephenbb <br />Peter, My wife and I enjoyed meeting you at the show. I'm glad Strasburg was close . It made for a great day. Stephen(USA)
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rschaffr		#38 Posted : 09 August 2005 19:57:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/01/2003(UTC) Posts: 5,193 Location: Southern New Jersey, USA		I've been fighting the urge to buy a GG-1 myself. Since my layout and everything I own is European, a GG-1 would look decidedly out of place on the rails, but it is an impressive machine. Having grown up in Pennsylvania and being a long time admirer of the PRR before it went under, I really would like to own this model.
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steventrain		#39 Posted : 09 August 2005 21:38:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		I decide not to buy the model,I am worried about faulty loco.
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prc		#40 Posted : 10 August 2005 08:58:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc <br />the BR50 is still waiting for repair - 8 months and counting So is this your 2nd big warranty case ... poor Paul, I'm with you ... and 8 months is an personal offense - give 'em fire [}:)][}:)][}:)] !!! John Good news, I got my BR50 in the mail today. Ken (Marklin USA) got it out to me. He also repaired and sent back the NYC Mikado (smoker was always on) and installed a free smoke unit for me (I took mine out before returning). Unfortunatly the 37022 lok has to be returned to the factory in Germany, Ken does not have parts for that and it is out of production. He said it will be 2-3 months to get it back. I am returning the GG1 to the dealer I bought it from, he has another set aside to swap it for me. I will let you know how it works out. Thanks
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5HorizonsRR		#41 Posted : 10 August 2005 09:52:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,994 Location: CA, USA		Hi guys. I must note that 8 months repair time for Marklin USA is quite normal. I don't know what the problem is but they are notoriously slow and have been for years. I must give Ken credit for doing good work and having a large backlog but the wait times are rediculous. I would recommend to anyone that they become close with their dealer (tough since everyone buys online these days) and swap defective items for identical ones at the shop. The dealer can then return the bad one for a credit or repair (which in my experience they are usually replaced vs. repaired if the item is dealer stock). When I was working for a dealer this was the best way to deal with defects and warranty but your dealer has to like you to agree to it! Another option is to have your dealer diagnose the problem, and if it isn't something requiring an electrical engineering degree or Marklin factory support to fix, just pay your dealer or local repair guy to order parts and do it. Sure you shouldn't have to but it is a lot less stress and waiting. On the other hand those of us residing in Germany are quite lucky. I have sent items back there for warranty (Marklin USA will not fix items bought outside of its own US dealer web) and had them returned in working order roughly 6 weeks later (that includes shipping both ways!) Now that is service on the part of my German dealer and Marklin of Germany. Sorry for being so off topic, I'll go play with my GG-1 now
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john black		#42 Posted : 10 August 2005 15:28:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc <br />Good news, got my BR50 today. He also repaired and sent back the NYC Mikado. Unfortunatly the 37022 lok has to be returned to the factory Another €500 MFX out of order - if my countings are correct this one is MFX #3 [:0][:0][:0] ... Could it be M got troubles with her latest technology ??? Well, since they call all this "New Systems" I just hope we won't find similar bugs in Central Station ... But at least you got 2 other locos back so ya can do some serious playing John
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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prc		#43 Posted : 11 August 2005 09:37:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		[ Another €500 MFX out of order - if my countings are correct this one is MFX #3 [:0][:0][:0] ... Could it be M got troubles with her latest technology ??? Well, since they call all this "New Systems" I just hope we won't find similar bugs in Central Station ... But at least you got 2 other locos back so ya can do some serious playing John Both are still up and running! Can't wait to the new GG1, hopefully it will not have ANY problems. Thanks
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john black		#44 Posted : 11 August 2005 20:49:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Glad for you, Paul
		I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide
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PierreGILLARD		#45 Posted : 16 August 2005 17:35:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 2,346 Location: Longueuil, Quebec		Back from a tour in Western Canada, I read this topic just now for the first time. I have seen both versions at Euro Rail Hobbies in Langley, BC, and I definitively don't like the metal edition. Anyway I cannot afford to buy any of them now ... Pierre.
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prc		#46 Posted : 18 August 2005 05:34:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		Both are still up and running! Can't wait to the new GG1, hopefully it will not have ANY problems. Thanks So much for hopes. I am F***ing tired of this. I got the new GG1 ran it for FIVE minutes and had to go out to dinner with the family. I pressed stop on the MS controller to kill all power to the track but did not unplug the transformer. Came home and the GG1 is completely dead! All of the other loks are fine. I cleared the GG1 out of the MS, took it off the track, unplugged the transformer, put the GG1 back on the track, turned power on and NOTHING!!!!! I am sending it back for a full refund, selling the rest of the M* crap and going to go with another manufacturer. Nothing like starting over. P.S. – the new BR50 is running fine…….for now.
		Paul Granby, Ct. USA
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prc		#47 Posted : 19 August 2005 00:42:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 283 Location: Granby, Ct		[ I am sending it back for a full refund, selling the rest of the M* crap and going to go with another manufacturer. Nothing like starting over. Now that I have cooled off a little, the dealer is going to send me green version, the hope is that since it was a later release it may not have the same problem. We will see...... Regards
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ulf999		#48 Posted : 19 August 2005 14:00:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,908 Location: Stockholm, Sweden		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by prc <br />[ I am sending it back for a full refund, selling the rest of the M* crap and going to go with another manufacturer. Nothing like starting over. Now that I have cooled off a little, the dealer is going to send me green version, the hope is that since it was a later release it may not have the same problem. We will see...... Regards Please let us know how the green behaves. I'd like to have a GG-1 on my layout, but this thread has really made me think twice about buying one...In fact I'm sceptical to all mfx right now[}:)]
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stephenbb		#49 Posted : 19 August 2005 20:25:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/11/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,836 Location: Trumbull, CT		What has been the asverage price for the silver GG-1??? I've seen prices from 599US to as low as 379US any comments??? Stephen(USA)
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steventrain		#50 Posted : 19 August 2005 21:02:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		I see 37491 on ebay,the only one sold for $333.00 see here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ma...WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I notice four 37491 still not been sold (Reserve Not Met) on ebay from station 500 with price of $549.00 (it quite silly price)
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