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Offline AshleyH  
#151 Posted : 14 January 2014 06:31:36(UTC)
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I notice that the product description for the two new Nohabs 39672 and 39673 describes 4 axles driven by cardon shafts. So a move away from DCM for this classic model.

Makes me worry a little more about the motors in the new F7s.......
Offline mike c  
#152 Posted : 14 January 2014 06:45:49(UTC)
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The description for the F7 states Geregelter Hochleistungsantrieb which I believe is the classic HLA. It also mentions two powered axles per motorized unit, which also suggests classic HLA.
There is no mention of cardan shafts or similar.
I also don't think any of the F7s have appeared as Trix models. The Nohabs may also be available in DC under the Trix moniker.

Regards

Mike C
Offline Sander van Wijk  
#153 Posted : 14 January 2014 08:16:03(UTC)
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Hi all,

An interesting listing, I have to admit. Not very much to my (rather specific) taste, but at least new items across the board (era's, regions, etc.). So, quite a nice set of new items! The thing that struck me most, though... what happened to the BR 05 Cab Forward which is even featured in the Märklin Technical Drawings repository? Time will tell, I guess...

Regards,
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Offline H0  
#154 Posted : 14 January 2014 08:39:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
The description for the F7 states Geregelter Hochleistungsantrieb which I believe is the classic HLA.
For the F7 it will most likely be the classic HLA.

"Geregelter Hochleistungsantrieb" means nothing as they use that phrase for all locos. It only means "DC motor with load-regulated decoder".

Two powered axles means nothing. Last year they announced BR 152, 182, and 189 with two powered axles (classic HLA) but later changed this to four powered axles (maintenance-free motor, centrally mounted).
Regards
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Offline foumaro  
#155 Posted : 14 January 2014 08:59:49(UTC)
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The item number of the Soo Lines F7 begins with the numbers 39 and not 37,this is not good.I noticed that the front handrails of the locomotive is sepatelly applied.Maybe we have a new body shell for the F7 and maybe that means and new motors.We will see.RollEyes Sleep
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#156 Posted : 14 January 2014 09:54:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post


Very slow with pdf, For fast online viewer without PDF- See post no 134.


Lokshop also have the pdf's on their website - http://ssl.lokshop.de/
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Offline xxup  
#157 Posted : 14 January 2014 10:05:42(UTC)
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I really like the 460 with the watch add, but I don't like the other train that comes in the set.. Sigh..
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Offline jlopez  
#158 Posted : 14 January 2014 10:06:52(UTC)
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I like the f7 super chief. My question is about the Mars light. Is it like prior marklin f7s, where there is just a whole with out a lens or is this going to be an actual Mars light. I bought the Kansas City southern f7 and while I like the model was unimpressed by the headlight.
Offline Andrey  
#159 Posted : 14 January 2014 10:07:37(UTC)
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IMHO new items are very good. They tried to hook era III fans and they definitely hooked me.
Would go for E 44 or BR 141 or Reihe 1018.0 (oh, no full sounds on last loco again).
Bearing in mind worst ever rouble-euro exchange rate, now thinking about one new loco only.

Also quickly looked through New Items brochure in German:
page 79 - I see the image of BR 55 but name of the loco is not mentioned in the description at all...
Offline H0  
#160 Posted : 14 January 2014 10:34:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jlopez Go to Quoted Post
I like the f7 super chief. My question is about the Mars light. Is it like prior marklin f7s, where there is just a whole with out a lens or is this going to be an actual Mars light.
Who knows?
The new F7 has interior details and LEDs where the old F7 had no interior details and one light bulb.

From the description I expect it will be like the Alco PA1 with at least 3 LEDs instead of a single light bulb.
Regards
Tom
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Offline jeehring  
#161 Posted : 14 January 2014 12:30:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jlopez Go to Quoted Post
I like the f7 super chief. My question is about the Mars light. Is it like prior marklin f7s, where there is just a whole with out a lens or is this going to be an actual Mars light. I bought the Kansas City southern f7 and while I like the model was unimpressed by the headlight.




if Marklin awakes to care about finishings, this should be a top set...
What I like about this set is that it has only one Vista Dome coach.
I am tired of Vista Dome ..

Despite the price must be a top price as well....I think I'll make an effort.
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Offline NS1200  
#162 Posted : 14 January 2014 13:09:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
The item number of the Soo Lines F7 begins with the numbers 39 and not 37,this is not good.I noticed that the front handrails of the locomotive is sepatelly applied.Maybe we have a new body shell for the F7 and maybe that means and new motors.We will see.RollEyes Sleep


Funny enough,the pictures shown for the Santa Fe and SOO Line F7 locomotives show the old fashioned versions with milky windows.
Must assume they both have clear windows when on sale.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline RayF  
#163 Posted : 14 January 2014 13:14:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
The item number of the Soo Lines F7 begins with the numbers 39 and not 37,this is not good.I noticed that the front handrails of the locomotive is sepatelly applied.Maybe we have a new body shell for the F7 and maybe that means and new motors.We will see.RollEyes Sleep


Funny enough,the pictures shown for the Santa Fe and SOO Line F7 locomotives show the old fashioned versions with milky windows.
Must assume they both have clear windows when on sale.


Probably just a mock-up at this stage.
Ray
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Offline RayF  
#164 Posted : 14 January 2014 13:16:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sander van Wijk Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,

An interesting listing, I have to admit. Not very much to my (rather specific) taste, but at least new items across the board (era's, regions, etc.). So, quite a nice set of new items! The thing that struck me most, though... what happened to the BR 05 Cab Forward which is even featured in the Märklin Technical Drawings repository? Time will tell, I guess...

Regards,


Sander, I'm guessing this will be a second Insider model later in the year. Maybe with the Summer new items?
Ray
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Offline NS1200  
#165 Posted : 14 January 2014 13:20:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
The item number of the Soo Lines F7 begins with the numbers 39 and not 37,this is not good.I noticed that the front handrails of the locomotive is sepatelly applied.Maybe we have a new body shell for the F7 and maybe that means and new motors.We will see.RollEyes Sleep


Funny enough,the pictures shown for the Santa Fe and SOO Line F7 locomotives show the old fashioned versions with milky windows.
Must assume they both have clear windows when on sale.


Probably just a mock-up at this stage.


The Santa Fe F7 in the artist impression showing the front has clear front windows,in the brochure en profile it has milky windows.
The SOO line F7 in the big picture with the steelmill in the background has milky front windows.
Let us wait and see.

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline kweekalot  
#166 Posted : 14 January 2014 13:33:12(UTC)
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Have you seen the the description of the BR01 on page 8 ?

"Simulierter Betriebsmittelverbrauch, optisch auf den Steuergeräten und auch tatsächlich am absenkbaren
Kohlenhaufen im Tender sichtbar
."

"Simulated consumption of resources, visable at the Control devices and actually visible lowering the
pile of coal in the tender.
".


ScaredScaredScared
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Offline RayF  
#167 Posted : 14 January 2014 14:04:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
Have you seen the the description of the BR01 on page 8 ?

"Simulierter Betriebsmittelverbrauch, optisch auf den Steuergeräten und auch tatsächlich am absenkbaren
Kohlenhaufen im Tender sichtbar
."

"Simulated consumption of resources, visable at the Control devices and actually visible lowering the
pile of coal in the tender.
".


ScaredScaredScared


It will be interesting to see how they achieve that. ThumpUp
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Offline flying_arch  
#168 Posted : 14 January 2014 14:05:09(UTC)
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Hi...do they publish the delivery schedules as well?

Thanks... :)
Offline vilithejou  
#169 Posted : 14 January 2014 14:45:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: flying_arch Go to Quoted Post
Hi...do they publish the delivery schedules as well?

Thanks... :)


I think that on the end of the month...
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#170 Posted : 14 January 2014 15:30:28(UTC)
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This is a faster loading new items view for Lokshop;

http://shop.lokshop.de/i...&new_items_year=2014
Glen
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" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !

CS1 Reloaded, Touch Cab, C Track Modules, K track layout all under construction. Currently Insider
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#171 Posted : 14 January 2014 15:40:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
Have you seen the the description of the BR01 on page 8 ?

"Simulierter Betriebsmittelverbrauch, optisch auf den Steuergeräten und auch tatsächlich am absenkbaren
Kohlenhaufen im Tender sichtbar
."

"Simulated consumption of resources, visable at the Control devices and actually visible lowering the
pile of coal in the tender.
".


ScaredScaredScared


It will be interesting to see how they achieve that. ThumpUp



I am expecting a mechanical lowering of the moulding of the coal within the tender. One then has to wonder where the decoder and speaker will be placed ??
It seems this will only be available to Cab Control operators, so it better not have too premium a price on it Scared
hopefully as they may not sell too many Blink except of course to CS2 operators Wink I want one Drool Love
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Offline 3rail4life  
#172 Posted : 14 January 2014 17:25:04(UTC)
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Märklin Neuheiten 2014 , wow Drool too much good stuff!!! ThumpUp
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Offline RayF  
#173 Posted : 14 January 2014 19:01:48(UTC)
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I was hoping for a more economical year so I could get some of the models from previous years missing from my collection. BigGrin
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Offline NS1200  
#174 Posted : 14 January 2014 20:14:29(UTC)
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According to Marklin.nl the prototype of loco 1252 will get the colors of Marklin 37128 this spring.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
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Offline xxup  
#175 Posted : 14 January 2014 21:54:23(UTC)
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oooooo oooooo... Wub Wub Wub Wub I just spotted a rail car with the video door... 39730... Very nice.. Love Love Love Love

What is also interesting is that they are using the Eurostar brand on one of the starter battery locos. Hopefully they have the rights to do a HO version.. Cool
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#176 Posted : 15 January 2014 09:11:58(UTC)
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37028 and 42041. New for 2014. Huh
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Offline jlopez  
#177 Posted : 15 January 2014 10:10:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jeehring Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jlopez Go to Quoted Post
I like the f7 super chief. My question is about the Mars light. Is it like prior marklin f7s, where there is just a whole with out a lens or is this going to be an actual Mars light. I bought the Kansas City southern f7 and while I like the model was unimpressed by the headlight.




if Marklin awakes to care about finishings, this should be a top set...
What I like about this set is that it has only one Vista Dome coach.
I am tired of Vista Dome ..

Despite the price must be a top price as well....I think I'll make an effort.


Yes I hope they do to. I think I am going to order it and take a risk that they do the cab and lights right.
Offline RayF  
#178 Posted : 15 January 2014 14:21:26(UTC)
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Has anyone read the description in the database for the 37568 crocodile? It looks like a copy/paste error, unless there are really meant to be two locos in the box?

http://www.maerklin.com/...ch%2Fproduct_search.html

Quote:
Prototype: Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) class Be 6/8 II freight locomotive. Class from the first production series. A dark brown version as it originally looked around 1922, walk-over plates at the ends, small steps for brakemen, without a wrong track operation light, and without an inductive magnet. Locomotive road number 14268. A pine green version, with open buffers, with some cab doors sealed, without walk-over plates at the ends, with wide steps for brakemen, with a wrong track operation light, and with an inductive magnet
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Offline NS1200  
#179 Posted : 15 January 2014 14:54:10(UTC)
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Price setting for the Santa Fe Super Chief set 26496 is remarkable.
Recommended price is close to 1,200 Euro.
In comparison the 26600 California Zephyr set with A-B-B loco and 6 coaches currently sells for 540 Euro on internet.
Surely there will be sound differences between the two sets,still the price difference is worth thinking about.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline RayF  
#180 Posted : 15 January 2014 15:04:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Price setting for the Santa Fe Super Chief set 26496 is remarkable.
Recommended price is close to 1,200 Euro.
In comparison the 26600 California Zephyr set with A-B-B loco and 6 coaches currently sells for 540 Euro on internet.
Surely there will be sound differences between the two sets,still the price difference is worth thinking about.


15 years have gone by since the 26600 set came out. A lot of new technology has been introduced since then, and I'm sure a lot of that will be in the new set. Besides that, I'm pretty sure the original recommended price for the 26600 was a lot more than 540 euro.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Offline NS1200  
#181 Posted : 15 January 2014 15:53:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Price setting for the Santa Fe Super Chief set 26496 is remarkable.
Recommended price is close to 1,200 Euro.
In comparison the 26600 California Zephyr set with A-B-B loco and 6 coaches currently sells for 540 Euro on internet.
Surely there will be sound differences between the two sets,still the price difference is worth thinking about.


15 years have gone by since the 26600 set came out. A lot of new technology has been introduced since then, and I'm sure a lot of that will be in the new set. Besides that, I'm pretty sure the original recommended price for the 26600 was a lot more than 540 euro.


Ray,

If you buy the 26496 I buy the 26600,do we have a deal?

That saves me some 500 Euro to buy another nice item,perhaps an UP A-B-B 37629.

The coaches are very much the same as those introduced in the late ninetees,it is a cash cow for Marklin,they keep throwing them out of the factory with different roadnames.
I had all the individual Santa Fe alu coaches and sold them.
The only difference I see is the railing on the roof of the vista dome.

As always on this forum: if you can afford the money,go for it!

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline RayF  
#182 Posted : 15 January 2014 15:58:16(UTC)
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I'm not into US trains, but I would probably also buy the 26600 at that price. Smile
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Offline NS1200  
#183 Posted : 15 January 2014 16:03:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I'm not into US trains, but I would probably also buy the 26600 at that price. Smile


After some time,you see that prices for USA F7 loco's and USA tinplate freightcars are going down,and that is a good thing,at least for me.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline shannon  
#184 Posted : 15 January 2014 16:05:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Has anyone read the description in the database for the 37568 crocodile? It looks like a copy/paste error, unless there are really meant to be two locos in the box?

http://www.maerklin.com/...ch%2Fproduct_search.html

Quote:
Prototype: Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) class Be 6/8 II freight locomotive. Class from the first production series. A dark brown version as it originally looked around 1922, walk-over plates at the ends, small steps for brakemen, without a wrong track operation light, and without an inductive magnet. Locomotive road number 14268. A pine green version, with open buffers, with some cab doors sealed, without walk-over plates at the ends, with wide steps for brakemen, with a wrong track operation light, and with an inductive magnet


Yes, I have found the wrong editing when i read it initially.

Offline foumaro  
#185 Posted : 15 January 2014 18:00:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I'm not into US trains, but I would probably also buy the 26600 at that price. Smile


After some time,you see that prices for USA F7 loco's and USA tinplate freightcars are going down,and that is a good thing,at least for me.


And for me too.BigGrin LOL The price tag of the 29496 is crazy,so propably i will not buy it.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#186 Posted : 15 January 2014 19:35:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I'm not into US trains, but I would probably also buy the 26600 at that price. Smile


After some time,you see that prices for USA F7 loco's and USA tinplate freightcars are going down,and that is a good thing,at least for me.


And for me too.BigGrin LOL The price tag of the 29496 is crazy,so propably i will not buy it.


I actually booked one yesterday.
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Offline NS1200  
#187 Posted : 15 January 2014 20:57:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I'm not into US trains, but I would probably also buy the 26600 at that price. Smile


After some time,you see that prices for USA F7 loco's and USA tinplate freightcars are going down,and that is a good thing,at least for me.


And for me too.BigGrin LOL The price tag of the 29496 is crazy,so propably i will not buy it.


I actually booked one yesterday.


David,if you have a surplus of money you can send it to me!

Best regards,
Paul.
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Offline NS1200  
#188 Posted : 15 January 2014 21:08:33(UTC)
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About Marklin F7 locomotives in general:

Me having a limited budget and buying locomotives for static display only,i might as well opt for the old range of analogue/Delta F7 units,such as the Alaska version on sale for around 250 Euro's or the F7 Demonstrator on sale for around 150 Euro's.
Both A-B-A and two drive motors.
The Demonstrator is regarded an ugly duck by many,but not by me,it has beautiful detail.

For every purse there is a F7 !
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Offline jeehring  
#189 Posted : 16 January 2014 03:23:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AshleyH Go to Quoted Post
I notice that the product description for the two new Nohabs 39672 and 39673 describes 4 axles driven by cardon shafts. So a move away from DCM for this classic model.

Makes me worry a little more about the motors in the new F7s.......


There are some models on which DCM is quiet & not Noisy....
F7 with Digital Equipment are not so Noisy....It seems Marklin recently has made something about it.
Anyway I'm not objective: 'cause I love DCM motorizations. I love them for many reasons :

they are the latest motorizations designed according to criteria of micro mechanics drown upon the watchmaking tradition of the Black Forest.
(While the little can motors with worm gear are derived from office automation applications)
5 poles DCM with cogwheel is the most efficient way in terms of power transmission.
DCM motor never dies : you can always change parts....
I would like Marklin improves the 5 poles DCM me too. This motor can be improved, so Marklin could stay with it a long long long time

I also love brushless motors like SDS...
Finally, the fact that the DCM motor manufacturer is also the one who introduce brushless motors in MRR is not surprising. As a concept both motors have common points, one of them being their long lasting....
Marklin did it.
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Offline foumaro  
#190 Posted : 16 January 2014 04:26:52(UTC)
foumaro

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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
About Marklin F7 locomotives in general:

Me having a limited budget and buying locomotives for static display only,i might as well opt for the old range of analogue/Delta F7 units,such as the Alaska version on sale for around 250 Euro's or the F7 Demonstrator on sale for around 150 Euro's.
Both A-B-A and two drive motors.
The Demonstrator is regarded an ugly duck by many,but not by me,it has beautiful detail.

For every purse there is a F7 !


It is a good sollution but if you want to run the locomotives you have to upgrade them.I bought the Santa Fe 3662 with the 6080 decoder.It was impossible to run the loco with a lot of wagons.I upgrade the loco with two 60941 motors and 60946 decoder and now running like a dream and pulls everything i want to put after her.The same i am gonna do with the Alaska i bought a few days ago.
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Offline bmcrae  
#191 Posted : 16 January 2014 18:16:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post


Lokshop also have the pdf's on their website - http://ssl.lokshop.de/


Thanks David, perfect! ThumpUp

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Offline klarinettmeister  
#192 Posted : 18 January 2014 10:53:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
About Marklin F7 locomotives in general:

Me having a limited budget and buying locomotives for static display only,i might as well opt for the old range of analogue/Delta F7 units,such as the Alaska version on sale for around 250 Euro's or the F7 Demonstrator on sale for around 150 Euro's.
Both A-B-A and two drive motors.
The Demonstrator is regarded an ugly duck by many,but not by me,it has beautiful detail.

For every purse there is a F7 !


It is a good sollution but if you want to run the locomotives you have to upgrade them.I bought the Santa Fe 3662 with the 6080 decoder.It was impossible to run the loco with a lot of wagons.I upgrade the loco with two 60941 motors and 60946 decoder and now running like a dream and pulls everything i want to put after her.The same i am gonna do with the Alaska i bought a few days ago.


My 3649 runs quite fast for being a 6080. Did it work with just one decoder?
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Offline foumaro  
#193 Posted : 18 January 2014 11:21:47(UTC)
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Speed wan not the problem,the problem was the pulling power.In uphill sections of the layout it was difficult for the 6080 to work for the two three pole motors.The 60946 working perfect with the two 60941.i run the Santa Fe with twelve metal USA cars for over an hour and the loco not even get hot.I will do the same conversion with the Alaska I bought lately.
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Offline steventrain  
#194 Posted : 20 January 2014 08:43:22(UTC)
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Any news on Toy fair 2014 loco?
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline RayF  
#195 Posted : 20 January 2014 09:41:53(UTC)
RayF

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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
Speed wan not the problem,the problem was the pulling power.In uphill sections of the layout it was difficult for the 6080 to work for the two three pole motors.The 60946 working perfect with the two 60941.i run the Santa Fe with twelve metal USA cars for over an hour and the loco not even get hot.I will do the same conversion with the Alaska I bought lately.


The 6080 has no load regulation, so I would expect it to slow down on the uphill sections and speed up on the downhills. I run many of my older locos with Delta and 6080 decoders without problems because I have no gradients on my layout. However, slow speed running is virtually non-existant on locos with the 6080 and Delta decoders, so I upgrade my nicer locos anyway just to see them crawl along at walking pace.
Ray
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Offline vilithejou  
#196 Posted : 20 January 2014 09:52:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Any news on Toy fair 2014 loco?


No..
I think until next week...

Can be possible BR 05 cab forward???
I think no, BR05 will be second lok insider on june
Joan Vilarrúbia
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Offline mbarreto  
#197 Posted : 21 January 2014 09:57:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Any news on Toy fair 2014 loco?


No..
I think until next week...

Can be possible BR 05 cab forward???
I think no, BR05 will be second lok insider on june


According to http://www.ciciessemodel.it/blog/index.html

seems it will be a pair of electric locos BR103 and BR120:

"Possiamo anche anticipare quale sarà il
modello edizione speciale Fiera di Norimberga 2014 (non contenuto nel catalogo):
si tratta di una coppia di locomotori elettrici tedeschi (un 103 e un 120)
in un’insolita livrea beige e turchese.
La tiratura sarà limitata."

Google translation:

We can also anticipate what will be the
special edition model Nuremberg Toy Fair 2014 (not contained in the catalog):
This is a pair of electric locomotives in Germany (a 103 and a 120)
livery in an unusual beige and turquoise.
The print run will be limited.





Mostly Märklin H0.


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Offline RayF  
#198 Posted : 21 January 2014 10:30:50(UTC)
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That will be unusual! Did the Br103 and Br120 ever run in these colours?

I'm a great fan of the turquoise and beige era. I have Br261, 212, 216, 141, 111, 194, 144 and soon also the 290 all in these colours. I'm very tempted by the 103 in particular.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline jvuye  
#199 Posted : 21 January 2014 11:45:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
That will be unusual! Did the Br103 and Br120 ever run in these colours?

I'm a great fan of the turquoise and beige era. I have Br261, 212, 216, 141, 111, 194, 144 and soon also the 290 all in these colours. I'm very tempted by the 103 in particular.


I can understand that Ray..I do too!
However these are pure fantasy models: nor the 103 or the 120 were ever painted in these colors.
If I remember correctly the"Toy Fair Special" has always been a fantasy model
I bet you the road numbers will be 103 2014 and 120 2014...Wink
Last year Black Crocodile was another good example. ( numbered 14 2013..)
Yes, I loved it Wub and I bought it...RollEyes BigGrin
It crossed the Atlantic twice since I bought it from a long time dealer/friend in the US!Blink BigGrin

Cheers
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learned to be better and had great success!
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Offline RayF  
#200 Posted : 21 January 2014 11:52:48(UTC)
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Hi Jacques,

All model railways are fantasies. You just have to decide what works for you! Smile

I can always imagine that, in my fantasy world, DB decided to try the turqouise and beige livery on a couple of the Br103 and B120 locos for use on non-IC passenger trains
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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