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Offline mancsaint  
#1 Posted : 11 October 2013 20:15:14(UTC)
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I recently bought one of these that had been removed from a new Marklin 30080.

I sent this email to Marklin

"Please advise if the decoder I have, that was in a new 30080, is a full
60942 or does it have reduced functions. I have been advised it may not have
all functions."

I received this reply
"Both decoders have the same hardware base. Only the software on them is different."

How would I be able to upgrade the software to enable full functionality?

Many thanks

Mancsaint

Edited by user 14 October 2013 12:31:39(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Offline 3rail4life  
#2 Posted : 11 October 2013 21:23:47(UTC)
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If you have a CS2, you try could function mapping to enable the functions at the aux outputs or download the mLD firmware from Märklin and apply that to the decoder. Not sure if either will work with your decoder, but it is worth a try to get access to additional functions.

Gordon
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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 11 October 2013 21:51:47(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: mancsaint Go to Quoted Post
How would I be able to upgrade the software to enable full functionality?
No chance, it's locked against updates.

You can change the function mapping (with a Central Station or ECoS only) to make use of the outputs the decoder has, but you cannot get DCC.

Already discussed here:
https://www.marklin-user...&m=422026#post422026

If there was a way to upgrade the decoder to DCC, then it would be more useful for IB owners.
I'm afraid Märklin want to sell their CS2 - they have no intentions to make IB owners (or CU 6021 owners or MS2 owners) happy.
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Offline RayF  
#4 Posted : 11 October 2013 22:20:39(UTC)
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I have a MS2 and a 6021, and I'm perfectly happy with these decoders. They do everything in their installed locos that I need them to do. All the functions advertised are available, and any adjustments I need to make can be made. There is no need for DCC as they work very well with mfx, and if I want to use it with the 6021 then I can also program any cv's I may need to with that controller.

Anyone who needs the fully open decoder to fit into a new conversion can buy the full function 60942 and do all they want to do, rather than try to save money by buying a restricted decoder tailored to another loco.
Ray
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Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 11 October 2013 22:50:03(UTC)
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They do everything in their installed locos that I need them to do. All the functions advertised are available, and any adjustments I need to make can be made. There is no need for DCC as they work very well with mfx, and if I want to use it with the 6021 then I can also program any cv's I may need to with that controller.
That's fine for you. With many locos I want to reduce the brightness and with all locos I set a linear speed curve - features not available without a Central Station or ECoS. With a 60942 these settings are also available for users of MS2s and IBs.

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Offline xxup  
#6 Posted : 11 October 2013 22:55:59(UTC)
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...and with all locos I set a linear speed curve....


That's interesting.. I have just finished using WindigiPet to calibrate the newly arrived 37617 and the 37970 locos.. The 37617 (mfx) has a curved speed profile, but the 37970 (fx - mouse piano) is dead straight. I assumed that it was a deliberate design by Marklin. How do you change the curved profile into a straight profile?
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Offline pa-pauls  
#7 Posted : 11 October 2013 23:09:03(UTC)
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...No chance, it's locked against updates.


Are you sure about this Tom ?
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Offline H0  
#8 Posted : 11 October 2013 23:23:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
...No chance, it's locked against updates.

Are you sure about this Tom?
Only 99.999% sure. Those with a CS2 can try to make an update ...

Regards
Tom
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Offline H0  
#9 Posted : 11 October 2013 23:30:33(UTC)
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How do you change the curved profile into a straight profile?
Central Station and ECoS allow you to select the speed curve. With ECoS/Central Station 60212 it's somewhere under Advanced settings. IIRC the CS2 has it under Motor settings. Both have a preset for Linear.
"Linear" gives a linear speed curve except for Sinus motors.

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Tom
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#10 Posted : 11 October 2013 23:56:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
IIRC the CS2 has it under Motor settings.


If you edit the loco's properties in the CS2, you can then click on the 'CV' button, then as Tom says, you can change the speed curve under Motor Settings.
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Offline mancsaint  
#11 Posted : 11 October 2013 23:58:57(UTC)
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I have written again to Marklin as follows

"I bought this decoder thinking it was a full Mfx 60942. You say that the
software is the only difference, is there a way for me to upgrade the
software on the decoder?"

Will post reply when to hand.

Mancsaint
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Offline mancsaint  
#12 Posted : 14 October 2013 12:30:48(UTC)
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Reply received today :

no, this is not possible. A customer hasn't the chance to change the complete software on a decoder.


Sincerely yours,

Your Maerklin Customer Service
Frank Mayer

That means it can technically only be done at the factory.

Mancsaint
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