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Offline matthewyturner  
#1 Posted : 17 April 2013 15:02:17(UTC)
matthewyturner

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Location: London
Hello,
I am having problems inserting and using the centre rail insulators which stop the electricity running. Any advice, pictures or videos would be usefull
Thanks!
Online H0  
#2 Posted : 17 April 2013 16:31:09(UTC)
H0


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Hi!
Welcome to the forum.

C track, I presume?
Move that red cap left and right to make sure both metal lids are in, then push it on.
The little hook must show down.

See also:
https://www.marklin-user...olator-into-C-Track.aspx
Regards
Tom
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Offline aos  
#3 Posted : 17 April 2013 18:35:59(UTC)
aos

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Hi Matthew, first welcome to the forum. Sadly, I have ruined a few of these cursed little things by trying to wiggle them on. They tend to split. I learnt a tip and that is to actually crimp the two metal strips closer together so that the red insulator slides on more easily. Also, make sure that you test the insulation works before building any more track. It saves having to lift up loads if it has not been successful. Since you seem to be a starting member, please let us know what locos etc. you have. Alan
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Offline matthewyturner  
#4 Posted : 17 April 2013 19:35:05(UTC)
matthewyturner

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Thanks everyone!
That was really useful and im really liking this whole forum. I think its great.
Thanks again,
Matthew
Offline Webmaster  
#5 Posted : 17 April 2013 22:19:11(UTC)
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It was much easier in the old M-track days, a piece of paper between the centre rail metal tongues...

No need for special red plastic C-track inserts that are actually quite difficult to fit until you get it how it should be done... Have myself expressed some "opinions in a foul kind of language" trying to isolate C-track centre rail during times... Wink
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
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Offline nevw  
#6 Posted : 18 April 2013 06:47:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
It was much easier in the old M-track days, a piece of paper between the centre rail metal tongues...

No need for special red plastic C-track inserts that are actually quite difficult to fit until you get it how it should be done... Have myself expressed some "opinions in a foul kind of language" trying to isolate C-track centre rail during times... Wink


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Offline matthewyturner  
#7 Posted : 18 April 2013 11:17:26(UTC)
matthewyturner

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Hi,
Just one more question. I have a double oval and if I icolated the inner oval and ran it with a seperate controller, would the trains fuse blow when it goes over the icolated point because it picks up energy from both power supplies.
Thanks!
Matthew
Offline matthewyturner  
#8 Posted : 18 April 2013 11:27:14(UTC)
matthewyturner

United Kingdom   
Joined: 17/04/2013(UTC)
Posts: 8
Location: London
Hi,
Just one more question. I have a double oval and if I icolated the inner oval and ran it with a seperate controller, would the trains fuse blow when it goes over the icolated point because it picks up energy from both power supplies.
Thanks!
Matthew
Offline amartinezv  
#9 Posted : 18 April 2013 12:57:19(UTC)
amartinezv

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Posts: 332
Location: Madrid,
Hello

I use shrinkable tube, you can buy in electric or electronic shops. it is cheaper than original marklin isolator

Best regards
Antonio Martínez
marklin, IB, era 3, Train controller
www.raildigital.es/davidruso
Offline amartinezv  
#10 Posted : 18 April 2013 13:14:13(UTC)
amartinezv

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Location: Madrid,
Originally Posted by: matthewyturner Go to Quoted Post
Hi,
Just one more question. I have a double oval and if I icolated the inner oval and ran it with a seperate controller, would the trains fuse blow when it goes over the icolated point because it picks up energy from both power supplies.
Thanks!
Matthew


Hello

If you are using 2 MS or similar digital equipment the answer is yes, you blow one or both MS when a train comes throught the isolation area. In this case you should use a spaecial device called lift up slider or something like that and put it in the isolation area.

If you are using analog power, I mean 2 transformers, the you should connect both in phase, it is easy, but a little tricky to do it.

Best regards
Antonio Martínez
marklin, IB, era 3, Train controller
www.raildigital.es/davidruso
Offline hennabm  
#11 Posted : 18 April 2013 21:44:56(UTC)
hennabm

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Location: Edinburgh,
Hi Matthew

Again welcome to the forum.ThumpUp

If like the last post, you are an analogue user then phasing the transformers is not as tricky in the UK with the 3 pin plug set up. So long as the two wires are secured and match within each plug they will be phased. The problem comes if you retain the German two pin plug and use an adapter for the UK. Then the phasing can be out and a spark will be seen as the train crosses the divide.

I have changed all my transformers to 3 pin plugs to make it easy.

Mike
1957 - 1985 era
What's digital?
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Offline TrainIride  
#12 Posted : 21 April 2013 21:54:47(UTC)
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Location: FRANCE
Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
It was much easier in the old M-track days, a piece of paper between the centre rail metal tongues...

No need for special red plastic C-track inserts that are actually quite difficult to fit until you get it how it should be done... Have myself expressed some "opinions in a foul kind of language" trying to isolate C-track centre rail during times... Wink


Märklin of the sixties was so simple, easy and reliable !
Does this world become more and more complicated ?
It is called "progress"
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Best Regards
Joël
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