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Offline acwertheim  
#1 Posted : 27 August 2012 02:29:24(UTC)
acwertheim

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Posts: 77
Location: Hermon, Maine
Hi,
I have a Marklin ICE train #29785. I want to upgrade the motor to a high efficient one.
How do I know what type of motor is in my loc. A drum communicator or a flat communicator one?
Does anybody know?
Thanks
Abe
acwertheim
Offline kimballthurlow  
#2 Posted : 27 August 2012 05:50:24(UTC)
kimballthurlow

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Location: Brisbane, Australia
Hi Abe,

I have the same problem as yourself, in that I am not familiar with the Marklin nomenclature for loco motors.
So when I want to upgrade something, I just write an email to Marklin service, and I always get a reply within 48 hours.
Service.at.maerklin.de

So it goes like this example reply:

"Dear Mr. Thurlow,

60941 is the right motor set for this model. 60962 or 60942 will be also the right decoder for it. We haven't tested it yet but it seems to be possible also to built in 60965 (sound).

Sincerely yours,

Your Maerklin Customer Service
....

An: Service Märklin
Betreff: Upgrade for 3313?

Hi,


For the model 3313 (1-C-1), please advise what motor conversion set and decoder I would need.

I might also prefer it for sound.

regards
.......... "

regards
Kimball

HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 27 August 2012 07:58:30(UTC)
H0


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Location: DE-NW
Hi!
Originally Posted by: acwertheim Go to Quoted Post
How do I know what type of motor is in my loc. A drum communicator or a flat communicator one?
Just check the spare parts list or service manual for the type of brushes you need or look at the motor (drum collector: two brushes (coal) in one line on opposite sites; flat collector: two brushes (copper and coal) side by side).
If flat collector, then the question will be large or small. This can be determined by the prototype class (ask the forum or ask Märklin).

Several models have been changed from flat collector to drum collector. Therefore for some models, "look at the brushes" is the only possible answer.

Sometimes the Delta ICE versions already have the five-pole DC motor and don't need new motor parts. No explosion diagram for 29785 online, so I cannot check.
Regards
Tom
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"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Offline eroncelli  
#4 Posted : 27 August 2012 10:45:04(UTC)
eroncelli

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Location: Bergamo - italy
This document might be useful

Eugenio
File Attachment(s):
Lok-Datenbank-2006-12.pdf (83kb) downloaded 71 time(s).
Offline acwertheim  
#5 Posted : 27 August 2012 13:34:29(UTC)
acwertheim

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Posts: 77
Location: Hermon, Maine
Hi All who answered me.
Thank you guys. It is a drum motor. I checked the brushes and they are on opposite sides. (like Tom , who seemed to know everything, said)
Thanks again.
Abe
acwertheim
Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 27 August 2012 22:22:23(UTC)
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I found a picture of the 29785 on Stummi's Forum. It has the standard AC/DC motor with field coil.

No, I don't know everything.
Does it switch between two pickup shoes to get power always from the leading shoe? When you upgrade the motor then you will need a new decoder. Switching between pickup shoes requires extra electronics.
Regards
Tom
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"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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