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Offline Ian555  
#1 Posted : 09 August 2012 07:20:23(UTC)
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Hi all,

Some photo's of my 1959 3921 V200.

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Offline Ian555  
#2 Posted : 09 August 2012 07:24:18(UTC)
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Hi all,

1959 was the first year the kit 3921 was produced.

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Offline foumaro  
#3 Posted : 09 August 2012 07:25:53(UTC)
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I would like to have a loco in this situation.Anybody know which models marklin produse like 3921.Are the have the 39 number?For example we have a 3939 like 3039 or 3934 like 3034?
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Offline Ian555  
#4 Posted : 09 August 2012 07:27:23(UTC)
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Offline 3rail4life  
#5 Posted : 09 August 2012 07:29:53(UTC)
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Very Cool Ian Cool You are always finding the nicest itemsThumpUp ThumpUp


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Offline Ian555  
#6 Posted : 09 August 2012 07:31:05(UTC)
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Hi Panayotis,

It was my friend Marco, who located this model for me. ThumpUp ThumpUp

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Offline Ian555  
#7 Posted : 09 August 2012 07:32:59(UTC)
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Hi Gordon,

Thanks. ThumpUp

But, I had some help with this one. Smile

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Offline Ian555  
#8 Posted : 09 August 2012 07:35:57(UTC)
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Hi all,

And some more photo's.

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Offline nevw  
#9 Posted : 09 August 2012 08:40:27(UTC)
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Very Nice Ian
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Offline Ian555  
#10 Posted : 09 August 2012 08:56:00(UTC)
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Hi Nev,

Thanks. ThumpUp

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Offline kweekalot  
#11 Posted : 09 August 2012 09:43:00(UTC)
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Hi Ian,

Wow, It seems like this sweet V200 just comes from Marklins paint spray department !!
I see no paint chips or something like that.
Fantastic !!

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Offline Ian555  
#12 Posted : 09 August 2012 09:52:30(UTC)
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Hi Marco,

Thanks. ThumpUp

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Offline Nigel Packer  
#13 Posted : 09 August 2012 11:14:56(UTC)
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I would like to have a loco in this situation.Anybody know which models marklin produse like 3921.Are the have the 39 number?For example we have a 3939 like 3039 or 3934 like 3034?


Märklin only ever produced two locos in kit form that were marketed to customers. These were the 3921 (same as 3021) and the 3937 (same as 3037).

These were sold in the 1960s style pale blue box designs. Assembled, these locos are quite commonplace, and are generally worth less than the factory-assembled equivalents, probably because customers' assembly skills are suspect! These kits were designed not to require soldering, so that they could be built using just a screwdriver.

Unassembled versions of these two locos are quite rare collectors' items, but they need to be complete and in their original boxes with instructions, etc. Koll's 2012 catalogue lists an assembled 3921 at 40 Euros, but an unassembled kit is 400 Euros.

However, actually Märklin made most of the locos from the 1960s and 1970s in kit form, and these were supplied in plain brown boxes to dealers for them to assemble. There were also Hamo versions of these kits, for 2-rail DC versions of the locos. Koll's lists over 40 of these 39xx kits (plus 17 38xx Hamo kits), dating from 1971 to 1980. Unassembled and complete in the original brown boxes, these are now serious collectors' items, and they are much sought-after. I have quite a few of them, but by no means a complete collection!

Nigel
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Offline Ian555  
#14 Posted : 09 August 2012 11:33:46(UTC)
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Hi Nigel,

Thanks for the information on Märklin's selfbuild kit Loco's. ThumpUp

Ian.
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Offline kweekalot  
#15 Posted : 12 August 2012 16:46:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer Go to Quoted Post

Märklin only ever produced two locos in kit form that were marketed to customers. These were the 3921 (same as 3021) and the 3937 (same as 3037).


Hi Nigel,

Don't forget the 1971-1974 building kit 3904 (TM800 / 3004).

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Offline drstapes  
#16 Posted : 12 August 2012 18:54:15(UTC)
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lovely engine. Its one of those must haves for marklin collectors
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Offline Nigel Packer  
#17 Posted : 14 August 2012 14:54:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer Go to Quoted Post

Märklin only ever produced two locos in kit form that were marketed to customers. These were the 3921 (same as 3021) and the 3937 (same as 3037).


Hi Nigel,

Don't forget the 1971-1974 building kit 3904 (TM800 / 3004).

Marco


Yes, thanks, Marco.

The 3904 is one of the 40 or so loco kits that Märklin made in brown boxes, mostly in the 1970s.

Steam loco kits were 3904, 3905, 3907, 3929, 3931, 3932, 3945, 3946, 3947, 3948, 3986, 3994, 3998.

Electric loco kits were 3900, 3901, 3902, 3911, 3912, 3913, 3914, 3915, 3923, 3924, 3934, 3936, 3940, 3951, 3953, 3959.

Diesel loco kits were 3961, 4961, 3962, 4962, 3963, 3967, 3968, 3969, 3973, 3976.

Railcar kit 3976.

Unassembled kits do appear for sale from time to time, but they are quite rare, some of them very rare!

Nigel
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#18 Posted : 14 August 2012 15:52:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Nigel Packer Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
I would like to have a loco in this situation.Anybody know which models marklin produse like 3921.Are the have the 39 number?For example we have a 3939 like 3039 or 3934 like 3034?


Märklin only ever produced two locos in kit form that were marketed to customers. These were the 3921 (same as 3021) and the 3937 (same as 3037).

These were sold in the 1960s style pale blue box designs. Assembled, these locos are quite commonplace, and are generally worth less than the factory-assembled equivalents, probably because customers' assembly skills are suspect! These kits were designed not to require soldering, so that they could be built using just a screwdriver.

Unassembled versions of these two locos are quite rare collectors' items, but they need to be complete and in their original boxes with instructions, etc. Koll's 2012 catalogue lists an assembled 3921 at 40 Euros, but an unassembled kit is 400 Euros.

However, actually Märklin made most of the locos from the 1960s and 1970s in kit form, and these were supplied in plain brown boxes to dealers for them to assemble. There were also Hamo versions of these kits, for 2-rail DC versions of the locos. Koll's lists over 40 of these 39xx kits (plus 17 38xx Hamo kits), dating from 1971 to 1980. Unassembled and complete in the original brown boxes, these are now serious collectors' items, and they are much sought-after. I have quite a few of them, but by no means a complete collection!

Nigel


I had a 3021 on my childhood layout and remember seeing a kit one (3921 ?) in Model Crafts and Hobbies in Wellington NZ. Even then I must of been discerning, because I recall being very happy I had a factory built one Huh . I do remember having a couple of wagon kits tho, and enjoyed assembling them Smile

Nice example Ian ThumpUp
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Offline steventrain  
#19 Posted : 14 August 2012 16:10:22(UTC)
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Found this one but sold back in 2008.

http://www.vectis.co.uk/...ViewLot.aspx?LotId=30839
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Offline Nigel Packer  
#20 Posted : 14 August 2012 17:21:25(UTC)
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Found this one but sold back in 2008.

http://www.vectis.co.uk/...ViewLot.aspx?LotId=30839


Thanks, Stephen. That was a bargain for somebody at 90 pounds! Koll's lists the 3924 now at 350 Euros.

It wasn't me who bought it - my 3924 came from an auction in Germany a few years ago.

Nigel

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Offline Ian555  
#21 Posted : 17 August 2012 12:33:03(UTC)
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Hi all,

I have a 1961 3921 in the post. ThumpUp

Ian.
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Offline kweekalot  
#22 Posted : 17 August 2012 17:25:36(UTC)
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Hi Ian,

With box and everything ??
I'm already looking forward to the photo's !

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Offline Ian555  
#23 Posted : 17 August 2012 17:58:34(UTC)
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Hi Marco,

Yes, and from your favourite e-bay shop. Smile

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Offline Brakepad  
#24 Posted : 19 August 2012 18:57:39(UTC)
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In the pictures the loco shows 3 lighting points at each side.

But I thought the top light only appeared in 1960 on models. Isn't it right?

check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
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Offline Ian555  
#25 Posted : 04 September 2012 14:56:15(UTC)
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Hi Brakepad,

Both models appear to have 3 lights.

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Offline Ian555  
#26 Posted : 04 September 2012 14:59:55(UTC)
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Hi all,

Here's my version 4 1960 to '62, 3921 alongside my 1959 3921.

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Offline kweekalot  
#27 Posted : 04 September 2012 17:39:14(UTC)
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Hi Ian,

Love Drool
Wow, two !!
I love this great building kits !

I have seen an German collector (named Guido) who has this 3921 Kit in Mint condition, unmounted.
Maybe that is the only unmounted one left.
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Offline Ian555  
#28 Posted : 04 September 2012 18:45:54(UTC)
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Hi Marco,

Thanks. ThumpUp

Yes, an unbuilt kit will be very difficult to find.

Ian.
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Offline Ian555  
#29 Posted : 06 September 2012 09:53:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
Hi Ian,

Love Drool
Wow, two !!
I love this great building kits !

I have seen an German collector (named Guido) who has this 3921 Kit in Mint condition, unmounted.
Maybe that is the only unmounted one left.



Hi Marco,

No, there is at least another one. Wink

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Offline kweekalot  
#30 Posted : 06 September 2012 10:34:20(UTC)
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Yes?? Well, I think that one is now on her way to B & W ?? BigGrin

I've read that already built 3921 and 3937 kits, get disassembled again, and sold as an unassembled kit, so be careful with buying.
Mounting always leaves small traces that can be seen.
I've also read that the various 3021 types, almost all also were released as a kit.

I don't know if the 1957 type with "durchbrochenen Lüfter" was also released as a kit, if so, that would be very nice.
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Offline Ian555  
#31 Posted : 06 September 2012 11:06:24(UTC)
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Hi Marco,

Information from Wolf is that the 3921 kits started in 1959.

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Offline kweekalot  
#32 Posted : 07 September 2012 09:36:28(UTC)
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Hi Ian,

Thanks for that info ! ThumpUp

You showed us pretty much V200 loco’s.
I think that maybe might come in handy for the Marklin-users net Wiki.
You can capture and photograph all the different versions.

In Holland we always say:

Ask not what the Forum can do for you, ask what you can do for the Forum !!

Laugh

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Offline Ian555  
#33 Posted : 07 September 2012 10:21:39(UTC)
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Hi Marco,

Yes, but I have only analog V200's, I'm sure Dusan has all the digital models...ThumpUp

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