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Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#1 Posted : 05 May 2012 00:14:20(UTC)
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Any thoughts?
Offline RayF  
#2 Posted : 05 May 2012 00:30:40(UTC)
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I have a few Primex engines and a couple of the sets. In most cases they are indistinguishable from their Marklin counterparts. I consider them to be an extension of the Marklin range, with different versions available from those in the main program.

A couple of examples:

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Ray
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Offline drstapes  
#3 Posted : 05 May 2012 01:39:08(UTC)
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I have the suburban railcar set which I think is very good.
Regards

Geoff (UK)

marklin HO from the 50's and 60's
Offline kimballthurlow  
#4 Posted : 05 May 2012 02:08:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
....
I consider them to be an extension of the Marklin range, with different versions available from those in the main program.

......


Absolutely Ray, so they have a desirability of their own.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline nevw  
#5 Posted : 05 May 2012 07:07:50(UTC)
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I have a lot of Primex tankers and freight wagons. Very nice.
nev
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 05 May 2012 07:09:53(UTC)
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I have 3 or 4 Primex catalogs in pdf format!


OK, I checked, it's actually 7 catalogs that I have. I've attached a couple of the smaller sized ones for you to enjoy.

Edited by user 05 May 2012 10:31:29(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Primex_1976_Catalog_DE.pdf (1,115kb) downloaded 159 time(s).
Primex_1979_Catalog_DE.pdf (2,933kb) downloaded 146 time(s).
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Offline Ian555  
#7 Posted : 05 May 2012 07:29:43(UTC)
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Hi all,

Primex Set 2750.

Ian.




Offline river6109  
#8 Posted : 05 May 2012 07:53:46(UTC)
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I have a few Primex locos and carriages, e.g. 2702, 3192 = Class 132 and the brown version of the Bavarian loco 3187, 3019 = a diesel loco BR 218, 3002 = BR E 63, 3012 = DB 798/998, 3017 = BVG BR 275,
there are more than I thought I had, always wanted the Orient express

John
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Offline cookee_nz  
#9 Posted : 05 May 2012 09:05:24(UTC)
cookee_nz

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I too like Primex, but really, what's not to like?, it's simply Marklin afterall.

A couple of the catalogues that BD refers to are very extensive and contain everything the budding modeller would need. Including many items you won't find even in the full Marklin catalogue.

I had three sets, foolishly let one of them go some years back, it was the set with the Orange Shunter and three Iron Ore cars - very cool indeed. Maybe one day I'll find a replacement.

I still have the 2702 mixed Tanker Wagon Set with the Blue E44 Loco (won't make the same mistake twice), and also have the Orange Primex Container wagon which looks great. I'm sure there's something else tucked away but perhaps not.

If I have any complaint about Primex, it's with the flimsy plastic orange packing - you only have to open a 'box' a few times and the plastic will start to split. Not at all suitable for opening and repacking as you can do often with the more robust cardboard packing.

Cheers

Steve
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Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#10 Posted : 05 May 2012 10:30:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
I too like Primex, but really, what's not to like?, it's simply Marklin afterall.


I am glad I've asked this question. It is something I had in my mind since childhood and my first electric set. I always remember how the white track always clashed with the brownRollEyes and in those days every bit of track had to find some place, for a kid more was more. Also having to reverse the loco by shifting a lever was annoying.Cursing

Yes,it is Marklin after all and while my view of it has been shifting over the years I always used to see Primex somehow as an inferior product which I avoided whenever possible. I have probably 5 locos and a couple of wagons I do regret selling some other wagons in the past. I may start considering it more seriously now, after all it's also rarer.
Offline Western Pacific  
#11 Posted : 05 May 2012 11:08:22(UTC)
Western Pacific

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Have only the PRIMEX set 2702 and I got that because of the Beige/Ozean 144 (Photo shown by Ray higher up) and a couple of PRIMEX passenger coaches, one 4192 and two 4193, that I have together with some MÄRKLIN 4037.
Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#12 Posted : 05 May 2012 12:35:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Go to Quoted Post
Have only the PRIMEX set 2702 and I got that because of the Beige/Ozean 144 (Photo shown by Ray higher up) and a couple of PRIMEX passenger coaches, one 4192 and two 4193, that I have together with some MÄRKLIN 4037.


Yep that's an interesting one, I also like the orient express set and the class24 in photoghrapic livery too. I do have and like the old brown electric that's in the photos up the top.

Offline steventrain  
#13 Posted : 05 May 2012 14:22:28(UTC)
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I like the primex buy maybe buy it in the future.
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Offline hennabm  
#14 Posted : 05 May 2012 20:32:56(UTC)
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Hi all

I've not voted as the option for me isn't there.

As I have never bought any I can't comment - however just looking at what they have produced I wouldn't necessarily say anything wrong against it as it is part of the M family.

Mike
1957 - 1985 era
What's digital?
Offline 3rail4life  
#15 Posted : 06 May 2012 01:50:10(UTC)
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I like some Primex, don't have much, this is my latest addition and happens to be Primex 3191

Primex 3191

Gordon
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Offline nevw  
#16 Posted : 06 May 2012 03:44:18(UTC)
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a Nice one Gordon.

NN
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Offline biedmatt  
#17 Posted : 06 May 2012 14:36:40(UTC)
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I like them because they are different. The old 60s look with the exposed headlamps appeals to me for some reason. I have the green E44 and a BR 23 as shown above. I bead blast the headlamps to give them a frosted look that softens the light. Unfortunatly only one in three lamps survive the process.
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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Offline Ian555  
#18 Posted : 06 May 2012 16:23:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 3rail4life Go to Quoted Post
I like some Primex, don't have much, this is my latest addition and happens to be Primex 3191

Primex 3191

Gordon



Hi Gordon,

Very nice. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline LMS800  
#19 Posted : 06 May 2012 16:58:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
I like the primex buy maybe buy it in the future.


Hi,
don't wait too long for buying ! Primex locos with original box in mint condition is the market of tomorrow !
They increase more in price than the identical Märklin loco !!!
There is a simple reason for this development:
Primex were the cheaper items of Märkin and sold via warehouses (Märklin only with special dealer).
Primex were built simplified and robust (tough) - just for kids to play. The boxes were thrown away.
Nowadays complete sets and locos / cars in box are very rare.
Some of my friends focus now on Primex !!
Regards Wolf
Offline 3rail4life  
#20 Posted : 06 May 2012 22:11:19(UTC)
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Thanks, Ian and Nev

After looking through Bigdaddynz catalog posts and reading what Wolf wrote, I could imagine someone doing an all Primex layout or having a collection of all the Primex items mint in box. The catalog pictures of the large Primex displays are classic, I especially like the photo of the woman with her shopping cart at the oversized Primex display, how cool it would be to fill that cart up with whats on the shelves.Woot

Gordon
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Offline Markus Schild  
#21 Posted : 06 May 2012 23:34:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 3rail4life Go to Quoted Post
.... or having a collection of all the Primex items mint in box.


Hi Gordon,

Don't underestimate this. Getting the first 80% is just a question of the budget. But there is a number of items which are really hard to find.

Avia Primex 4540 1974

I collect Primex since decades and I still even don't know which cars exist in this type of box. I only know this one and 4587 (acid-can car without cans).

Regards

Markus
Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#22 Posted : 06 May 2012 23:41:51(UTC)
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Well, you've all convinced me of start cornering the market LOL
Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#23 Posted : 06 May 2012 23:44:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: biedmatt Go to Quoted Post
I bead blast the headlamps to give them a frosted look that softens the light. Unfortunatly only one in three lamps survive the process.
Wouldn't it be almost as effective and less risky to spray the glass with a matt top coat perhaps mixed with a tiny bit of white?

Offline Ian555  
#24 Posted : 07 May 2012 08:47:30(UTC)
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Hi Markus,

Very nice. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline 3rail4life  
#25 Posted : 08 May 2012 05:33:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 3rail4life Go to Quoted Post
.... or having a collection of all the Primex items mint in box.


Hi Gordon,

Don't underestimate this. Getting the first 80% is just a question of the budget. But there is a number of items which are really hard to find.

Avia Primex 4540 1974

I collect Primex since decades and I still even don't know which cars exist in this type of box. I only know this one and 4587 (acid-can car without cans).

Regards

Markus


Hi Markus,

That is very cool, I have never seen a box like that, only the plastic type, I do not think I will ever find a box for my Primex 3191. Good luck with your search for the the remaining 20%.

Gordon

Offline RayF  
#26 Posted : 08 May 2012 08:27:27(UTC)
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Several of my Primex locos and sets have come in unopened boxes! I couldn't wait to rip open that original seal and get at the brand new goodies inside!

What's the point in keeping something like this locked up in a box? You might as well have left it in the shop. My Primex trains are now free to run on a layout, as they were designed to do! (Preferably my layout!)

The only downside to getting one of these unopened beauties is that it usually means that the motor and gears are totally stuck, and it needs a strip down and a good oiling to get it to run.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline Ian555  
#27 Posted : 08 May 2012 10:46:59(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi all,

I have Primex Set 2701 on my wish list.Smile

Ian.

Offline Markus Schild  
#28 Posted : 08 May 2012 10:52:19(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi,

Don't trust to much in "unopened" boxes. Märklin/Primex delivered replacement stickers to their dealers, so that they could show an engine out of the box and reseal it, when the buyer changed it's mind. It is every time suspect when a "rarity" or "never seen model" is corroborated with these stickers. Also with a warm hair-dryer the stickers can be removed nearly without any traces.

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Regards

Markus
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Offline biedmatt  
#29 Posted : 08 May 2012 12:55:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: biedmatt Go to Quoted Post
I bead blast the headlamps to give them a frosted look that softens the light. Unfortunatly only one in three lamps survive the process.
Wouldn't it be almost as effective and less risky to spray the glass with a matt top coat perhaps mixed with a tiny bit of white?



Probably would work, but not sure how well the paint would stick to the smooth glass.
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
Offline Markus Schild  
#30 Posted : 08 May 2012 14:04:53(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Originally Posted by: biedmatt Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: biedmatt Go to Quoted Post
I bead blast the headlamps to give them a frosted look that softens the light. Unfortunatly only one in three lamps survive the process.
Wouldn't it be almost as effective and less risky to spray the glass with a matt top coat perhaps mixed with a tiny bit of white?



Probably would work, but not sure how well the paint would stick to the smooth glass.


Hi,

A frosted surface can also be reached by treating the glass with hydrofluoric acid. But as Wikipedia says: "Hydrofluoric acid is a highly corrosive liquid and is a contact poison. It should be handled with extreme care, beyond that accorded to other mineral acids."

regards

Markus



Offline RayF  
#31 Posted : 08 May 2012 14:36:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

Don't trust to much in "unopened" boxes. Märklin/Primex delivered replacement stickers to their dealers, so that they could show an engine out of the box and reseal it, when the buyer changed it's mind. It is every time suspect when a "rarity" or "never seen model" is corroborated with these stickers. Also with a warm hair-dryer the stickers can be removed nearly without any traces.


Regards

Markus


Markus, thanks for the warning. The locos and sets I got in unopened boxes show no signs of ever having been used. As far as I'm concerned if the dealer opened the box and then resealed it it's not as if someone had bought it, played with it for 10 years, and then attempted to pass it off as brand new.

Are there any Primex rarities? These were models that were sold cheap in supermarkets. There must be loads of them in circulation, including old unsold stock which has been sitting around in warehouses for years.
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline Markus Schild  
#32 Posted : 08 May 2012 14:53:40(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post

Are there any Primex rarities? These were models that were sold cheap in supermarkets. There must be loads of them in circulation, including old unsold stock which has been sitting around in warehouses for years.


Hi Ray,

Not everything was sold in supermarkets, and most PRIMEX-items are produced in low numbers, at least very much lower than their Märklin-brothers. For example the AVIA-Box is coded with a print run of 3,000.

Rare items of the last years are for example the V 200 with "Deutsche Bundesbahn" imprinted, the LMS / LNER tender-locos or the special imprintings on the small rail-bus or some goods-cars celebrating anniversaries. But the list is much longer.
But don't need such "specials" to find rarities. Just try to find some rails in the early boxes with the green PRIMEX-logo (1969).

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Regards

Markus
Offline RayF  
#33 Posted : 08 May 2012 17:08:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post

Are there any Primex rarities? These were models that were sold cheap in supermarkets. There must be loads of them in circulation, including old unsold stock which has been sitting around in warehouses for years.


Hi Ray,

Not everything was sold in supermarkets, and most PRIMEX-items are produced in low numbers, at least very much lower than their Märklin-brothers. For example the AVIA-Box is coded with a print run of 3,000.

Rare items of the last years are for example the V 200 with "Deutsche Bundesbahn" imprinted, the LMS / LNER tender-locos or the special imprintings on the small rail-bus or some goods-cars celebrating anniversaries. But the list is much longer.
But don't need such "specials" to find rarities. Just try to find some rails in the early boxes with the green PRIMEX-logo (1969).

UserPostedImage

Regards

Markus


Thanks Markus. I thought I knew more about Primex than I actually do! BigGrin

I was not familiar with LMS / LNER tender-locos made by Primex. The other examples you gave I have seen before.

I found these using Google. Do you have any better photos?

UserPostedImage

UserPostedImage

Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline Markus Schild  
#34 Posted : 08 May 2012 18:35:15(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi Ray,

Sorry, I don't own these models. They are very hard to find. I heard a number of 120 of each produced, but I can't guarantee that number.

Regards

Markus

Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#35 Posted : 09 May 2012 00:41:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Hi Ray,

Sorry, I don't own these models. They are very hard to find. I heard a number of 120 of each produced, but I can't guarantee that number.

Regards

Markus



They must be hard, isn't that a sticker for 280 Euros?
Offline LMS800  
#36 Posted : 09 May 2012 13:10:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Hi Ray,

Sorry, I don't own these models. They are very hard to find. I heard a number of 120 of each produced, but I can't guarantee that number.

Regards

Markus



They must be hard, isn't that a sticker for 280 Euros?



Hello,
on ebay in Germany one rare Primex car is for sale ( 599 € - approx. 800 $ ), see here .
Regards
Wolf
Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#37 Posted : 09 May 2012 13:54:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LMS800 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Hi Ray,

Sorry, I don't own these models. They are very hard to find. I heard a number of 120 of each produced, but I can't guarantee that number.

Regards

Markus



They must be hard, isn't that a sticker for 280 Euros?



Hello,
on ebay in Germany one rare Primex car is for sale ( 599 € - approx. 800 $ ), see here .
Regards
Wolf


Yes, I saw that one a few days ago when I started this thread I searched ebay.de to see what I could find. Where I couldn't find it was in my Kolls catalogue so now I know that not all the Primex products are listed there.
Thank you, Alex

Offline TrainIride  
#38 Posted : 09 May 2012 14:43:01(UTC)
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Hi,

I've only one Primex 25cm red sleeping coach.
Looks great as its Mârklin brother.

I'm looking for the frenchised P8 Primex #2701.
But still too expensive for me!
If these items are such priced, too many people have to like them... Smile

Regards
Joël

Offline john black  
#39 Posted : 22 May 2012 17:58:32(UTC)
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Just like Ray I too been lucky to round up a modest collection of brand new Primex classics.
True beauties. Love them the very same as my Marklins ... LaughCoolThumpUp
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline eberhardt  
#40 Posted : 01 June 2012 18:52:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 3rail4life Go to Quoted Post
.... or having a collection of all the Primex items mint in box.


Hi Gordon,

Don't underestimate this. Getting the first 80% is just a question of the budget. But there is a number of items which are really hard to find.

Avia Primex 4540 1974

I collect Primex since decades and I still even don't know which cars exist in this type of box. I only know this one and 4587 (acid-can car without cans).

Regards

Markus


Hi Markus, I have a 4587 in the box and it has the acid cans. Is this a different model or were they sometimes taken out? I've never used it even though I've had it for years. I've just got back into modelling my Marklin and didn't realise that Primex was collectable. Thanks John.
Offline Markus Schild  
#41 Posted : 01 June 2012 19:19:14(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi John,

The 4587 was sold in different variations. Without cans, with grey cans (rare) and with brown cans. The 4587 w/o cans was sold in a picture-box like above and also in the card-board box with window.

Regards

Markus
Offline eberhardt  
#42 Posted : 01 June 2012 20:41:22(UTC)
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Thanks Markus, mine has the brown cans and is in the box with window. John. P.S. It only cost D.M. 6.50.
Offline RayF  
#43 Posted : 01 June 2012 20:48:04(UTC)
RayF

Gibraltar   
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UserPostedImage 4541 1973 - 1975

UserPostedImage 4587 1975 - 1976

UserPostedImage 4587 1976 - 1977

UserPostedImage 4587 1977 - 1981

UserPostedImage 4587 1991

For comparison, here is the Marklin 4657. You can see what details have been omitted from the Primex version.

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Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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#44 Posted : 01 June 2012 21:09:43(UTC)
eberhardt

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Location: Staffordshire.
Thanks Ray, mine is second from the bottom. I didn't realise there were so many variations. John.
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