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Offline walters48  
#1 Posted : 29 October 2010 00:42:39(UTC)
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I should have asked this a long time ago. Re: Koll's: Is it published in English? Is it published every year? What is the difference between Band 1 and 2? Opinion: is it reliable as a price guide? Any other insights would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Chas
Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 29 October 2010 01:25:25(UTC)
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It comes every year, AFAIK in German only.
Band 1 contains locos and sets (train sets, car sets, starter sets), Band 2 contains coaches and freight cars.
There's a bound luxury edition combining Band 1 and Band 2. There is a compact edition without pictures (if you want the prices only).
And there is the special items catalogue for strictly and truely limited editions.

Koll prices are often considered to be too high - but on eBay you often find deals that are even higher than Koll's prices.
Koll checks the prices at auctions and loco swap meetings. There are always chances to get some items cheaper, sometimes someone will pay more.

Edit: not so old goat Tom had to make some corrections (underlined).

Edited by user 29 October 2010 09:59:08(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#3 Posted : 29 October 2010 03:12:09(UTC)
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H0 wrote:
It comes every year, AFAIK in English only.
Band 1 contains locos and sets (train sets, car sets, starter sets), Band 2 contains coaches and freight cars.
There's a bound luxury edition combining Band 1 and Band 2. There is a compact edition without pictures (if you want the prices only).
And there is the special items catalogue for strictly and truely limited editions.

Koll prices are often considered to be too high - but on eBay you often find deals that are even higher than Koll's prices.
Koll checks the prices at auctions and loco swap meetings. There are always chances to get some items cheaper, sometimes someone will pay more.



I thought that KOLLS was in German Only no English version.??

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#4 Posted : 29 October 2010 03:39:54(UTC)
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Offline Ranjit  
#5 Posted : 29 October 2010 08:30:42(UTC)
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Now, where do I find the Koll's in English?

John, the link you provided is in German!

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#6 Posted : 29 October 2010 08:45:51(UTC)
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H0 wrote:
It comes every year, AFAIK in English only.


I think this is simply a typo and should read "in German only".

Many people also overlook that Koll's prices refer to crisply new items in their original boxes. Lots of stuff offered on traditional flea markets and eBay is something between "used" and "scrap metal", but nevertheless the sellers ask for Koll prices. Thus the Koll prices are not so unrealistic as it is often claimed in certain web forums.

Otherwise, Koll's catalogs are as reliable as possible. Nobody will ever succeed in compiling a database of Marklin products that is 100 percent complete and without the slightest error.
Offline H0  
#7 Posted : 29 October 2010 10:00:39(UTC)
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Unholz wrote:
I think this is simply a typo and should read "in German only".

YepBlushing - corrected in my first post.
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Offline Railsurfer  
#8 Posted : 30 October 2010 15:24:47(UTC)
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I think the Koll's Katalog is quite useful to both collectors and traders. The catalog easily identifies the rarer and more desirable items by the price and clearly identifies the differences between versions. The catalogs are produced in the German language, yet with such aids as the translators provided for free by(google and yahoo), one can simply type in the descriptions and get a pretty good translation. One can learn some German along the way too. The pictures are great for identifying differences and nuances. Having a Koll's catalog has greatly increased my enjoyment of collecting Marklin. I have learned so much more than I would have otherwise about the production and scope of the greatest model trains on earth!ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp
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#9 Posted : 30 October 2010 16:11:05(UTC)
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Mine is 2006.. So I am overdue for an update, but I wish all of the photos were in colour and not just the older items.. It would also be nice if Herr Koll could produce one English edition (say) every ten years..
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Offline Ranjit  
#10 Posted : 30 October 2010 16:22:26(UTC)
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Yes, an English edition would be good idea.

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Offline hennabm  
#11 Posted : 27 December 2010 19:03:53(UTC)
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My last one was from 2004 and was lost some time in my rapid move in 2005.
I've just checked Amazon for the 2009 full version. £200 - HELP my last one was only £70ish; why the massive jumpConfused I'm sure the Euro/£ rate is contributing but surely not to that amount.

Has anyone got an 09 version for sale at a reasonable price? PM me if you have.
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Offline dntower85  
#12 Posted : 27 December 2010 20:36:36(UTC)
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xxup wrote:
Mine is 2006.. So I am overdue for an update, but I wish all of the photos were in colour and not just the older items.. It would also be nice if Herr Koll could produce one English edition (say) every ten years..


2006 same as mine except I have the one minus the photos, and the 2006 version had some of the highest prices, before the economy tanked.

I wish there was something like the Greensburg book now, it had less model numbers but had nice photos and gave good details on why one item was rarer over another.

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Offline H0  
#13 Posted : 27 December 2010 21:45:57(UTC)
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hennabm wrote:
I've just checked Amazon for the 2009 full version. £200

You can get the paperback edition 2010 new for £22 each (two volumes, take Band 1 and Band 2).
Regards
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Offline walters48  
#14 Posted : 27 December 2010 23:58:17(UTC)
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dntower85 wrote:
xxup wrote:
Mine is 2006.. So I am overdue for an update, but I wish all of the photos were in colour and not just the older items.. It would also be nice if Herr Koll could produce one English edition (say) every ten years..


2006 same as mine except I have the one minus the photos, and the 2006 version had some of the highest prices, before the economy tanked.

I wish there was something like the Greensburg book now, it had less model numbers but had nice photos and gave good details on why one item was rarer over another.


Is/ was there a Greenburg catalog for Marklin HO? Would a member who is knowledgeable about this topic please write a short piece on Greenburg literature- past or present?
Thanks,
Chas
Offline hennabm  
#15 Posted : 28 December 2010 12:28:34(UTC)
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H0 wrote:
hennabm wrote:
I've just checked Amazon for the 2009 full version. £200

You can get the paperback edition 2010 new for £22 each (two volumes, take Band 1 and Band 2).


Cheers for that I will try again. Do they contain photos like the full edition?
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Offline H0  
#16 Posted : 28 December 2010 13:12:43(UTC)
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hennabm wrote:
Cheers for that I will try again. Do they contain photos like the full edition?

Yes, it's the full edition as paperback. The Kompaktkatalog comes without photos.
If you only want current prices, then the Kompaktkatalog is the way to go.

Here's the complete range ("ausverkauft" means "sold out"):
http://www.koll-verlag.de/struktur1.html
The complete book and the Spezialkatalog are sold out - new edition announced for April 2011.
Regards
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