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jmk		#1 Posted : 02 September 2010 19:33:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/09/2010(UTC) Posts: 3 Location: USA		Hello, just trying to get a pricing idea for this set I plan on selling. Set is mint in box. Never run or removed from box. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, jmk
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john black		#2 Posted : 02 September 2010 20:32:29(UTC) Retweet
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Webmaster		#3 Posted : 02 September 2010 23:53:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,165		More like 450-500, I would say... Some are trying to sell it at 750-800, but that is a "bit" too much...
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Jeremy Palmer		#4 Posted : 03 September 2010 00:30:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Scandanavian Galleries has one at approx. US$ 770.00. Minus approx. 15% for ebay and related costs 650.00? Juhan, does this set have sprung buffers? I know the 2670/2870 sets do. Jeremy.
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intruder		#5 Posted : 03 September 2010 01:14:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		I have one. No sprung buffers, Jeremy.
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Nigel Packer		#6 Posted : 03 September 2010 01:20:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 694 Location: Cheshire, UK		Koll's catalogue 2010 has this set at 240 Euros, and the Swedish version 28702 with the yellow mailbox is 250 Euros. The loco also has a different road number, 944 for set 28703 and 938 for 28702. Nigel
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intruder		#7 Posted : 03 September 2010 01:38:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		The locomotive from 28703: SJ type Sa, No. 944
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Jeremy Palmer		#8 Posted : 03 September 2010 15:49:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Afternoon Svein, Thanks for posting piccy, handsome tank engine, the coaches are also very pleasing to look at. We know thw Scandanavian Toy Gallery price is OTT, we know the Kolls value, all we need is the value that JMK will put on it. Jeremy. ps. This set was my second purchase after Prem. US set.jp.
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jmk		#9 Posted : 03 September 2010 20:47:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/09/2010(UTC) Posts: 3 Location: USA		Hello all, thank you all so much for your input. Very helpful to me. If anyone is interested in purchasing set, it is still available for $405 shipped. Again thanks for your help. jmk Edited by user 06 September 2010 03:37:53(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Ian555		#10 Posted : 01 May 2012 08:08:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi all, Can you tell me is Set 28703.....analog/Delta/Digital. Ian.
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Western Pacific		#11 Posted : 01 May 2012 08:15:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 841 Location: Lidingö, Sweden		Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi all, Can you tell me is Set 28703.....analog/Delta/Digital. Ian. Hi Ian, According to my entry in my loco database both 28702 and 28703 are Delta. (I can't get to the train set due to remodelling of our house, but I'm pretty sure this entry is accurate). Per
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Ian555		#12 Posted : 01 May 2012 09:00:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Per, Thanks for the information. Ian.
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BrandonVA		#13 Posted : 01 May 2012 15:58:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA		Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi all, Can you tell me is Set 28703.....analog/Delta/Digital. Ian. Hi Ian, According to my entry in my loco database both 28702 and 28703 are Delta. (I can't get to the train set due to remodelling of our house, but I'm pretty sure this entry is accurate). Per This is slightly OT, but is anything with a 5 digit PN that is not Delta/Digital? I can only think of 30321 (BR81, I believe just a renumbering of 3021) that doesn't fit this logic. -Brandon
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Markus Schild		#14 Posted : 01 May 2012 16:39:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Originally Posted by: BrandonVA This is slightly OT, but is anything with a 5 digit PN that is not Delta/Digital? I can only think of 30321 (BR81, I believe just a renumbering of 3021) that doesn't fit this logic. -Brandon Hi Brandon, short list, I'am sure still incomplete: 30159 30031 30032 30321 30331 30747 Regards Markus
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BrandonVA		#15 Posted : 01 May 2012 17:57:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/12/2011(UTC) Posts: 2,533 Location: VA		Markus - long enough to disprove my theory :) I like 30747! Going to have to start looking for that one... Thanks! -Brandon
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Ian555		#16 Posted : 01 May 2012 18:56:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi all, Thanks for the extra information. Ian.
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20-VOLT-AC		#17 Posted : 01 May 2012 21:16:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 250 Location: united kingdom		Hi. Has anyone got a photo of this Marklin historic set that they can add to this post ? Neil.
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biedmatt		#18 Posted : 02 May 2012 00:34:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,343 Location: Southwest Ohio		It is shown in the 1999/00 catalog. Does Delta use an AC or DC motor? I have one on it's way from Germany and this would be my first Delta locomotive.
		Matt Era 3 DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control. With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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intruder		#19 Posted : 02 May 2012 01:04:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 5,382 Location: Akershus, Norway		28702 and 28703 had Delta decoders and drum commutator AC motors. I converted my 28703 with a 60901 conversion set.
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Jeremy Palmer		#20 Posted : 02 May 2012 02:38:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Hi. Has anyone got a photo of this Marklin historic set that they can add to this post ? Neil. Hi Neil - From the net....... Jeremy Palmer attached the following image(s):
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Ian555		#21 Posted : 02 May 2012 07:55:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Svein, Thanks. Ian.
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Ian555		#22 Posted : 02 May 2012 07:58:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Jeremy, Thanks for the photo. Ian.
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nevw		#23 Posted : 02 May 2012 08:11:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		It is indeed a lovely set. Runs nice as well as looking nice. NN
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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Ian555		#24 Posted : 02 May 2012 08:29:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Nev, If I remember correctly, you are a bit of an expert on those lovely wooden Sets. Ian.
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nevw		#25 Posted : 02 May 2012 08:43:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Nev, If I remember correctly, you are a bit of an expert on those lovely wooden Sets. Ian. Well I do have 2 an elec and a Steamer. (2 different sets. However I believe Svein is the true expert and Jeremy has a few also NN
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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Markus Schild		#26 Posted : 02 May 2012 08:59:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,802 Location: Wurttemberg		Originally Posted by: biedmatt Does Delta use an AC or DC motor? I have one on it's way from Germany and this would be my first Delta locomotive. Hi, Most Delta - models use an "classic" AC-Motor. But there are also examples for DELTA-models with DC-motors, e.g. models which came from the TRIX-assortement. 1-- gauge models with Delta-decoders always use DC-motors. Regards Markus
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Ian555		#27 Posted : 02 May 2012 09:13:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Nev, 3 wise men. Ian.
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biedmatt		#28 Posted : 02 May 2012 14:21:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,343 Location: Southwest Ohio		42702 is the expansion car for this set. It is also different from the cars supplied in the set, especially with the window frames.
		Matt Era 3 DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control. With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.
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Ian555		#29 Posted : 02 May 2012 15:18:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Matt, Thanks for the information. Ian.
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20-VOLT-AC		#30 Posted : 02 May 2012 21:35:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 250 Location: united kingdom		Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Hi. Has anyone got a photo of this Marklin historic set that they can add to this post ? Neil. Hi Neil - From the net....... Thanks for the photo Jeremy !! Nice to see what other people are interested in.
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Ian555		#31 Posted : 06 May 2012 08:49:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi all, Arrived yesterday. Ian Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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nevw		#32 Posted : 06 May 2012 08:58:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Ian, Nice set. Pleased that you are taking advice on the good sets. NN
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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Ian555		#33 Posted : 06 May 2012 09:23:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Nev, Thanks. The problem is........ I think they are all good Sets. Ian.
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Western Pacific		#34 Posted : 06 May 2012 21:01:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 841 Location: Lidingö, Sweden		Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Nev, Thanks. The problem is........ I think they are all good Sets. Ian. Hi Ian, Nice set - congratulations! And then there is the other good set - 28702 to think about, unless you have it already. Having SJ Sa 938 (instead of Sa 944 as in 28703). One shop that I go to in Sweden indicate they have it. Trainshop.se.
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Ian555		#35 Posted : 07 May 2012 08:49:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Per, Thanks. Ian.
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Ian555		#36 Posted : 07 May 2012 09:00:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Per, Just had a look over set 28702, was this sold in Sweden only when it was new. Ian.
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Jeremy Palmer		#37 Posted : 07 May 2012 09:46:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Hi Ian, all, Look here at Hans Lilja's layout for some picccies of two Swedish Woody sets. One with elok and one with tank lok. The layout is worth looking at also https://www.marklin-user...-1-2m-x-3-7m-layout.aspx Jeremy.
		Jeremy. 1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you. 2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
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Ian555		#38 Posted : 07 May 2012 09:53:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Jeremy, Thanks for the link. Ian.
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mj		#39 Posted : 07 May 2012 11:41:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 370 Location: Växjö		Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Per, Just had a look over set 28702, was this sold in Sweden only when it was new. Ian. Yes, if I remember correctly the 28702 was only sold in Sweden during 1999. The difference between the two sets is the different road numbers on the Sa loco and that the baggage-car on the 28702 has a yellow letter box. Also, the box on the 28702 states Brio 60 years in Sweden (the former general agent for Märklin in Scandinavia). That there exist two versions of this set is not surprising if one consider the 2870, where Märklin issued two different sets in 1988 (2870.1) and 1989 (2870.2) with more or less the same difference; namely the yellow letter box on baggage-car which the Swedish version has and the international does not. The 2670, which is the digital version of the 2870.2, does not have the yellow letter box.
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Ian555		#40 Posted : 07 May 2012 12:21:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Magnus, Thanks for the information. They are great looking Sets, I already have the 2870 with the yellow letter box. Ian.
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Jeremy Palmer		#41 Posted : 07 May 2012 12:25:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Thanks for the info on the different sets Magnus. I was never able to figure out exactly what was what . Also plenty of info. on Svein's site . Thanks for video Ian, I have that set - sort of. Mine was "made up" for me from individual units by the late Peter Spilger, a real gent and missed by many. Jeremy.
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Ian555		#42 Posted : 17 May 2012 09:55:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi all, Set 28702 arrived last week....like brand new, never been run, and couplings still in the sealed plastic bag. Ian. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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Ian555		#43 Posted : 17 May 2012 09:58:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi all, Couple of photo's of my 3 Sets. Ian. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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nevw		#44 Posted : 18 May 2012 01:12:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Nice buying Ian. N
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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Jeremy Palmer		#45 Posted : 18 May 2012 04:04:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/04/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,464 Location: St. Michael, Barbados		Very nice Ian, those are smashing sets. Jeremy.
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NZMarklinist		#46 Posted : 18 May 2012 04:09:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,757 Location: Auckland NZ		Lovely Sets Ian, from "a pricing idea" comes a nice collection
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Ian555		#47 Posted : 18 May 2012 07:58:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Nev, Thanks. Ian.
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Ian555		#48 Posted : 18 May 2012 08:00:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Jeremy, Thanks. I might add Set 2670 (digital) if I can find one at a "sensible" price. Ian.
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Ian555		#49 Posted : 18 May 2012 08:02:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi Glen, Thanks. Ian.
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Ian555		#50 Posted : 18 May 2012 09:58:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,288 Location: Scotland		Hi all, Another couple of photo's of Set 28702, which show the difference between 28702 and 28703. And I forgot to take a photo of the yellow post box. Ian. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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