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Hello, just trying to get a pricing idea for this set I plan on selling. Set is mint in box. Never run or removed from box. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, jmk
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~ €250 oughta be your ticket  |
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More like 450-500, I would say... Some are trying to sell it at 750-800, but that is a "bit" too much... |
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Scandanavian Galleries has one at approx. US$ 770.00. Minus approx. 15% for ebay and related costs 650.00? Juhan, does this set have sprung buffers? I know  the 2670/2870 sets do. Jeremy. |
Jeremy.
1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese. |
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I have one.
No sprung buffers, Jeremy. |
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
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Koll's catalogue 2010 has this set at 240 Euros, and the Swedish version 28702 with the yellow mailbox is 250 Euros. The loco also has a different road number, 944 for set 28703 and 938 for 28702.
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H0 Collection from 1935 to today. |
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The locomotive from 28703: SJ type Sa, No. 944  |
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Afternoon Svein,
Thanks for posting piccy, handsome tank engine, the coaches are also very pleasing to look at.
We know thw Scandanavian Toy Gallery price is OTT, we know the Kolls value, all we need is the value that JMK will
put on it.
Jeremy.
ps. This set was my second purchase after Prem. US set.jp. |
Jeremy.
1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese. |
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Hello all, thank you all so much for your input. Very helpful to me. If anyone is interested in purchasing set, it is still available for $405 shipped. Again thanks for your help. jmk Edited by user 06 September 2010 03:37:53(UTC)
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Hi all, Can you tell me is Set 28703.....analog/Delta/Digital.  Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555  Hi all, Can you tell me is Set 28703.....analog/Delta/Digital. Ian. Hi Ian, According to my entry in my loco database both 28702 and 28703 are Delta. (I can't get to the train set due to remodelling of our house, but I'm pretty sure this entry is accurate). Per
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Hi Per, Thanks for the information. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi all, Can you tell me is Set 28703.....analog/Delta/Digital. Ian. Hi Ian, According to my entry in my loco database both 28702 and 28703 are Delta. (I can't get to the train set due to remodelling of our house, but I'm pretty sure this entry is accurate). Per This is slightly OT, but is anything with a 5 digit PN that is not Delta/Digital? I can only think of 30321 (BR81, I believe just a renumbering of 3021) that doesn't fit this logic. -Brandon |
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA
This is slightly OT, but is anything with a 5 digit PN that is not Delta/Digital? I can only think of 30321 (BR81, I believe just a renumbering of 3021) that doesn't fit this logic.
-Brandon
Hi Brandon, short list, I'am sure still incomplete: 30159 30031 30032 30321 30331 30747 Regards Markus
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Markus - long enough to disprove my theory :)
I like 30747! Going to have to start looking for that one...
Thanks!
-Brandon |
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Hi all, Thanks for the extra information. Ian.
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Hi. Has anyone got a photo of this Marklin historic set that they can add to this post ?  Neil. |
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It is shown in the 1999/00 catalog.
Does Delta use an AC or DC motor? I have one on it's way from Germany and this would be my first Delta locomotive. |
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397. |
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28702 and 28703 had Delta decoders and drum commutator AC motors.
I converted my 28703 with a 60901 conversion set. |
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Hi. Has anyone got a photo of this Marklin historic set that they can add to this post ? Neil. Hi Neil - From the net....... Jeremy Palmer attached the following image(s): |
Jeremy.
1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese. |
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Hi Svein, Thanks. Ian.
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Hi Jeremy, Thanks for the photo. Ian.
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It is indeed a lovely set.
Runs nice as well as looking nice.
NN |
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
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Hi Nev, If I remember correctly, you are a bit of an expert on those lovely wooden Sets. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Nev, If I remember correctly, you are a bit of an expert on those lovely wooden Sets. Ian. Well I do have 2 an elec and a Steamer. (2 different sets. However I believe Svein is the true expert and Jeremy has a few also NN |
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Originally Posted by: biedmatt
Does Delta use an AC or DC motor? I have one on it's way from Germany and this would be my first Delta locomotive.
Hi, Most Delta - models use an "classic" AC-Motor. But there are also examples for DELTA-models with DC-motors, e.g. models which came from the TRIX-assortement. 1-- gauge models with Delta-decoders always use DC-motors. Regards Markus
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Hi Nev, 3 wise men. Ian.
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42702 is the expansion car for this set. It is also different from the cars supplied in the set, especially with the window frames. |
Matt
Era 3
DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe
But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs
ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control.
With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397. |
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Hi Matt, Thanks for the information. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Hi. Has anyone got a photo of this Marklin historic set that they can add to this post ? Neil. Hi Neil - From the net....... Thanks for the photo Jeremy !! Nice to see what other people are interested in.  |
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Ian, Nice set.
Pleased that you are taking advice on the good sets.
NN |
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Hi Nev, Thanks. The problem is........ I think they are all good Sets.   Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Nev, Thanks. The problem is........ I think they are all good Sets. Ian. Hi Ian, Nice set - congratulations! And then there is the other good set - 28702 to think about, unless you have it already. Having SJ Sa 938 (instead of Sa 944 as in 28703). One shop that I go to in Sweden indicate they have it. Trainshop.se.
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Hi Per, Thanks. Ian.
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Hi Per,
Just had a look over set 28702, was this sold in Sweden only when it was new.
Ian.
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Jeremy.
1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese. |
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Hi Jeremy, Thanks for the link. Ian.
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Per,
Just had a look over set 28702, was this sold in Sweden only when it was new.
Ian.
Yes, if I remember correctly the 28702 was only sold in Sweden during 1999. The difference between the two sets is the different road numbers on the Sa loco and that the baggage-car on the 28702 has a yellow letter box. Also, the box on the 28702 states Brio 60 years in Sweden (the former general agent for Märklin in Scandinavia). That there exist two versions of this set is not surprising if one consider the 2870, where Märklin issued two different sets in 1988 (2870.1) and 1989 (2870.2) with more or less the same difference; namely the yellow letter box on baggage-car which the Swedish version has and the international does not. The 2670, which is the digital version of the 2870.2, does not have the yellow letter box. |
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Hi Magnus, Thanks for the information. They are great looking Sets, I already have the 2870 with the yellow letter box. Ian.
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Thanks for the info on the different sets Magnus. I was never able to figure out exactly what was what  . Also plenty of info. on Svein's site . Thanks for video Ian, I have that set - sort of. Mine was "made up" for me from individual units by the late Peter Spilger, a real gent and missed by many. Jeremy. |
Jeremy.
1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese. |
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Hi all, Set 28702 arrived last week....like brand new, never been run, and couplings still in the sealed plastic bag. Ian.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Very nice Ian, those are smashing sets.
Jeremy. |
Jeremy.
1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese. |
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Lovely Sets Ian, from "a pricing idea" comes a nice collection |
Glen
Auckland NZ
" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,289 Location: Scotland
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Hi Nev, Thanks. Ian.
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Hi Jeremy, Thanks. I might add Set 2670 (digital) if I can find one at a "sensible" price. Ian.
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Hi Glen, Thanks. Ian.
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Hi all, Another couple of photo's of Set 28702, which show the difference between 28702 and 28703. And I forgot to take a photo of the yellow post box.  Ian.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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