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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#1 Posted : 27 August 2010 07:55:15(UTC)
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Looks like this set has hit ebay, with the first auction I've seen for one.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Markl...ellbau_Modelleisenbahnen

I guess this means that the Lokshop can't be too far away with having mine in stock. I shall post pictures and reviews, etc, when it arrives. Meanwhile, if you get yours before I do, feel free to post about it here.
Offline applor  
#2 Posted : 27 August 2010 08:04:14(UTC)
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Awesome set, despite the timeline inconsistencies. Look forward to your review!

I'm sure a lot of people are waiting for these sets to be split up. I wonder what price the CS2 can be had for.
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Offline steventrain  
#3 Posted : 27 August 2010 09:43:22(UTC)
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Bigdaddynz wrote:
Looks like this set has hit ebay, with the first auction I've seen for one.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/w...geName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1123

I guess this means that the Lokshop can't be too far away with having mine in stock. I shall post pictures and reviews, etc, when it arrives. Meanwhile, if you get yours before I do, feel free to post about it here.



Click 'See seller other listed' found nothing.Wink
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#4 Posted : 27 August 2010 10:49:16(UTC)
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Stephen, the search needs to be made from ebay.de


Try http://shop.ebay.de/vosy...;_ipg=&_trksid=p4340


I changed the link for the 29500 set to go via ebay.de.
Offline Kodiak  
#5 Posted : 27 August 2010 11:16:11(UTC)
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anybody know what radius the curves are in this set? I'm looking to get it and want so get some extra C track for it as all my stuff is M.
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Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 27 August 2010 11:33:51(UTC)
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The curves are R3.

Will be interesting to see which motor is in the E 50 and how it behaves.
Regards
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Offline TimR  
#7 Posted : 27 August 2010 11:37:36(UTC)
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H0 wrote:

Will be interesting to see which motor is in the E 50 and how it behaves.


Yes, Marklin didn't specifically wrote what it actually has Confused

So does the Ae 8/14 from set 29814...
the last one came with SDS (M39590) - so it'll be interesting to see what the Starter version has..
Now collecting C-Sine models.
Offline steventrain  
#8 Posted : 27 August 2010 16:31:42(UTC)
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H0 wrote:
The curves are R3.

Will be interesting to see which motor is in the E 50 and how it behaves.



Yes, with wide radius turnouts.Wink
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 27 August 2010 16:44:12(UTC)
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The new items catalog says both locos have "controlled high-efficiency propulsion", which I have always taken to mean the HE 5 pole DCM motor. However, I guess that does not preclude other motor types. Perhaps Marklin left the description deliberately vague, so as to allow for the possibility of a last minute decision as to what the motor type should be.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#10 Posted : 27 August 2010 16:57:35(UTC)
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Offline H0  
#11 Posted : 27 August 2010 21:36:18(UTC)
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Bigdaddynz wrote:
The new items catalog says both locos have "controlled high-efficiency propulsion", which I have always taken to mean the HE 5 pole DCM motor.

"High-efficiency propulsion" only means "not an AC/DC motor.
"Controlled" means "load regulated".

I expect 4 powered axles, but not the 5 pole DCM.

They wrote a similar text about 37440 (pre-C-Sine E 44).
Regards
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Offline Hemmerich  
#12 Posted : 27 August 2010 21:38:44(UTC)
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Offline gachar001  
#13 Posted : 27 August 2010 21:46:23(UTC)
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Hope this set comes with posters with Swiss scenery. My mega starter set had a bunch of very high quality posters which can be joined together and used as a backdrop for a layout.
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Offline Hemmerich  
#14 Posted : 27 August 2010 22:14:15(UTC)
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Offline MikeK  
#15 Posted : 27 August 2010 23:43:44(UTC)
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I would really, really love to have this set - trying hard to find a good argument I can use... Maybe I should pass my old CS1 on to Junior (as I really can't figure out to configure his MS(1) so he can get the sound and light effects on his "police train") - and then I would "need" the CS2 in this set Woot
A single track on the floor is better than no track at all...
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#16 Posted : 28 August 2010 01:37:08(UTC)
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MikeK wrote:
I would really, really love to have this set - trying hard to find a good argument I can use... Maybe I should pass my old CS1 on to Junior (as I really can't figure out to configure his MS(1) so he can get the sound and light effects on his "police train") - and then I would "need" the CS2 in this set Woot



Mike, if your CS1 is at software version 2.0.4, you can use it as an auxiliary controller to the CS2, connecting both together via the ethernet interfaces.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#17 Posted : 28 August 2010 01:38:51(UTC)
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Gautham, as Lutz pointed out, you are referring to the 29814 Swiss Mega Starter set, which promises to be as interesting as this DB set.
Offline mvd71  
#18 Posted : 28 August 2010 02:00:19(UTC)
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PS: Also documentation for this set has been made available by Märklin; now even in twelve languages (needless to say, also including relevant information about the motor). Wink


Hi Lutz,

Just for the benefit of those who haven't seen the technical specifications, (or missed something in reading it). Could you please let us know if it does have the Earlier style DCM, Sine motor, or otherwise?

Thanks,

Mike.
Offline H0  
#19 Posted : 28 August 2010 02:26:59(UTC)
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Looks like "otherwise".
I found this in the 29500 spare parts list (online available):
23 148750 Motor UG 99,95 €

The same motor was used in the Trix 150 class loco #22151.
Trix product database says:
"The locomotive has a motor with a bell-shaped armature and a flywheel, centrally mounted."

As expected: since the SDS is not accepted by the analog DC world, they use the Trix motor also in the AC version.
Doesn't sound bad, I must say.

The BR 50 uses the brushes 601460, so nothing new here: old 5-pole HEP DCM.
Regards
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#20 Posted : 28 August 2010 02:56:48(UTC)
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Thanks Tom. Great info, as always!
Offline mvd71  
#21 Posted : 28 August 2010 08:48:57(UTC)
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Thanks Tom,

Anyone had experience of the motor that Trix uses? Is it good? last a long time? How long has it been in use?

Cheers.....

Mike.
Offline I_love_Marklin_37538  
#22 Posted : 28 August 2010 09:14:22(UTC)
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I was thinking about buying this set but looks like I have to do it via toottoot
Offline David Dewar  
#23 Posted : 28 August 2010 13:29:42(UTC)
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Hi Tom.. Good info. Thanks.

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#24 Posted : 28 August 2010 15:15:56(UTC)
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Just received an email from the Lokshop saying the set is in stock, presumably at the Lokshop (as the Marklin product database says that it is temporarily out of stock - see Lutz's post above).
Offline pa-pauls  
#25 Posted : 28 August 2010 17:42:41(UTC)
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Hmmmm, now I want both 29500 and 29814 Drool
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#26 Posted : 29 August 2010 01:23:47(UTC)
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Pål, what would you do with 3 CS2's?
Offline gachar001  
#27 Posted : 29 August 2010 04:11:10(UTC)
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Hemmerich wrote:
Gautham, you're probably talking about the Swiss Mega set (the thread here is about the DB Mega set). Smile

Oh. Ok. Didn't realize that.
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Offline AJ  
#28 Posted : 29 August 2010 05:31:40(UTC)
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Bigdaddynz wrote:
Pål, what would you do with 3 CS2's?


Give one to Alok!! Wink
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Offline pa-pauls  
#29 Posted : 29 August 2010 13:53:33(UTC)
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Bigdaddynz wrote:
Pål, what would you do with 3 CS2's?


LOL 1 for my layout, 1 for the test track and 1 for spare parts LOL You see ? LOL
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#30 Posted : 29 August 2010 14:53:49(UTC)
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BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

You have that much faith in Marklin's reliability that you have to have a CS2 as a spare! OhMyGod
Offline applor  
#31 Posted : 31 August 2010 05:07:54(UTC)
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This set is listed for August 2010 in the delivery list; and it is marked as "temporarily unavailable" which usually means that the first delivery has occurred - which is what can be seen by this ebay offer.


I was actually referring to the BR50 supplied with this set - it is in era3a livery with dual headlights and deutsche bundesbahn on the side (Though this was seen up until 1959 or so) and yet comes with era3b 1st/2nd class rebuild cars from the class change of 1955/1956 onwards and an E50 which wasn't produced until 1957.

Most people won't care about this of course but I'm picky about these sort of things. I guess Marklin had an excess of their 37848 model.
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#32 Posted : 31 August 2010 22:21:37(UTC)
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#33 Posted : 31 August 2010 22:23:57(UTC)
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Offline TimR  
#34 Posted : 01 September 2010 04:34:04(UTC)
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Hemmerich wrote:
H0 wrote:
The same motor was used in the Trix 150 class loco #22151.

This model was originally even equipped with another motor; spare part price was just half of the new one. BigGrin



There are three different motors offered for Marklin so far:

230592 - Motor Sine-2 Eur 49,95
(as used on 39500)
or
123537 - Motor (also Sinus with lower consumption me thinks) - Eur 49,95
(as used in 39501)

as opposed to the new one in 29500:
148750 - Eur 99,95

The prices are of course from Marklin sparepart database. Though prices for the Sinus motor seem quite genuine (as do the price of DCM motor parts, for example) - this database is generally known to over-inflate prices and doesn't reflect actual cost of the parts themselves. Those made by well known sub-contractors (ESU, Maxon, etc) particularly seemed too expensive.

Case to point, those who have BR05 streamlined and BR45 with Maxon DC motor can look at SB-modellbau price for a fairer quote as opposed from Marklin.

Another case to point, do you actually believe that part 123052 - a plain MFX decoder cost 119,95 Eur from Marklin database when an equivalent ESU one only cost 35 Eur?

Not to mention that since the new BR150 came without SDS - it also doesn't need that Sinus "motor elektronik" that cost an extra 100 Eur on top of the motor cost (that'll be 150 Eur in total, then). It will instead comes with a normal PCB with 21-pin plug.

Edited by user 05 September 2010 09:14:20(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#35 Posted : 01 September 2010 05:21:32(UTC)
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TimR wrote:
as opposed to the new one in 29500:
148750 - Eur 99,95


96,95 Eur at the Lokshop (inc VAT).
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#36 Posted : 01 September 2010 14:49:51(UTC)
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The Lokshop advises that the credit card has been charged, and items are on their way.

My poor credit card! Scared The bill for my car repair Scared has also come through this week!
Offline Hemmerich  
#37 Posted : 03 September 2010 03:35:01(UTC)
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Offline TimR  
#38 Posted : 03 September 2010 04:39:30(UTC)
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Hemmerich wrote:

(besides the other fact that this member is neither authorized nor qualified to speak or write in my name).

I'm sorry there, but clarification is needed here:

You are very sorely mistaken, probably even flattering yourself too much if you think that I was writing on behalf of you, when the content of my post was to argue the contrary of your original statement.

Just because I wrote your name in my post doesn't mean that I felt priviledged to do so..

But thanks for twisting the meaning of the first three words in my post for your own purpose.

My post pointed that although on the figures that Marklin Sparepart database provided (factually)that the the motor for 29500 in itself is twice the cost of the one used in 39500/39501 (the only previous two offerings of E50/BR150 from dear M*) - that doesn't mean the SDS one is cheaper if other things are taken in consideration.

Hemmerich wrote:

The price difference between a non-SDS and a SDS mtc pcb can be derived by the corresponding parts and their prices; for the E50/BR151
its PG11 vs. PG16 which is substantial less than 100€.


You even got me confused for a minute there... a correction might be needed here:
an E50 is a BR150 and not a BR151 - which is a completely different model with DCM motor and plastic body...

Hemmerich wrote:

This model was originally even equipped with another motor; spare part price was just half of the new one.


Hemmerich wrote:

Together with the motor price differences, cost for the SDS version parts is no more than 25€ above the non-SDS version.


Just to be clear:
You do realize that your two statements are clear oxymoron, don't you?

Especially in light that SDS motor cannot work without its special PCB driver board,
while can motors can be wired directly to a decoder without any PCB?
Now collecting C-Sine models.
Offline David Dewar  
#39 Posted : 03 September 2010 15:22:36(UTC)
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Big D. Yout thread is becoming argumentative. Why not carry on with what I and I am sure others find interesting elsewhere. We can then look forward to your findings of the mega set without hassle.
Just a suggestion.

dave
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#40 Posted : 03 September 2010 15:50:57(UTC)
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Don't worry Dave, I'm keeping an eye on this thread, any more unneeded comments will be sent to the big delete button in the sky.
Offline Kodiak  
#41 Posted : 03 September 2010 17:19:48(UTC)
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I just ordered mine from Lokshop, along with the extra track I need to make a second siding. very excited. The transformer I've been using is an old small blue metal one, I'm looking forward to giving my V221 with a sound a good run and see what she's realy like. ThumpUp
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#42 Posted : 04 September 2010 01:58:06(UTC)
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Hemmerich wrote:

(besides the other fact that this member is neither authorized nor qualified to speak or write in my name).



LUtzie, once you enter your post ALL Members have the right to use your post as a quote to bring relevence to the argument. Some comments removed /BDNZ

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#44 Posted : 05 September 2010 03:24:06(UTC)
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Hemmerich wrote:
TimR wrote:
Hemmerich wrote:

(besides the other fact that this member is neither authorized nor qualified to speak or write in my name).

I'm sorry there, but clarification is needed here:

Yes; there is quite some clarification for the forum readers needed:

User TimR pretended that I would be referring to an SDS motor whereas everyone could clearly see that my response to user H0 was about an alternate motor part# - actually the predecessor of the motor #148750 also in this new starter set loco - of the TRIX model #22151 (it can be found easily in its original spare part drawing), which has knowingly never been equipped with a SDS. He illegaly used my name instead of admitting himself as originator of his misleading and actually incorrect information there. Since this was not for the first case by that user, it is obviously done on purpose and I can only encourage the forum owner to not tolerate and further disallow his wrong behavior in future



Lutzie,
get that LArge chip off yuor shoulder. A be precise. If quoting that another motor was used state the part nimber so therefore there are no quesses.

You are getting painful again.
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#45 Posted : 05 September 2010 03:39:19(UTC)
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Hemmerich wrote:
TimR wrote:
Hemmerich wrote:

(besides the other fact that this member is neither authorized nor qualified to speak or write in my name).

I'm sorry there, but clarification is needed here:

Yes; there is quite some clarification for the forum readers needed:

User TimR pretended that I would be referring to an SDS motor whereas everyone could clearly see that my response to user H0 was about an alternate motor part# - actually the predecessor of the motor #148750 also in this new starter set loco - of the TRIX model #22151 (it can be found easily in its original spare part drawing), which has knowingly never been equipped with a SDS. He illegaly used my name instead of admitting himself as originator of his misleading and actually incorrect information there. Since this was not for the first case by that user, it is obviously done on purpose and I can only encourage the forum owner to not tolerate and further disallow his wrong behavior in future.



If you read my post carefully,
I was only referring to different prices of motor in BR150/E50 offered by Marklin and not through Trix.
Nowhere have I made any quote referring to a Trix part, now, have I?
So my comment stays.

Misleading = distorting the facts to support own's opinion/argument.
I have correctly quoted my source in the posts - so there was nothing misleading to be found there.

But by quoting your original vague post,
you thought that I should correctly conveyed exactly what you meant or had in mind, or otherwise it would be misleading.
amazing...

Everyone is free to interpret what has been posted in a free forum and that was my own comparison - you are free to make your own comparison and should not have feel the need to be offended or making such a big fuss about it.
I'd happily changed my posting, if only to make its interpretation works better..

If you have your own different interpretation, please do so in precise and clear manner.
I don't think most people understand what you meant even in your latest post.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#46 Posted : 05 September 2010 04:08:13(UTC)
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There is nothing illegal about what Tim quoted, he simply referred to a previous post Lutz made on a public, international forum, and while he may have misunderstood what Lutz was meaning, there was certainly no malice intended on Tim's part. Tim has even edited his post to remove the so called 'offending' comment that seemed to get up Lutz's nose. So, I don't know why this argument is continuing! As Nev says, it's getting painful Lutz, and I for one do not want and am not going to see any more of it!

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Offline Ranjit  
#47 Posted : 05 September 2010 07:27:43(UTC)
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Now, what was the title of this topic? You guys have completely lost me.

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#48 Posted : 05 September 2010 14:45:01(UTC)
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According to DHL, my starter set has left Germany, and is on its way to NZ.
Offline steventrain  
#49 Posted : 05 September 2010 14:48:27(UTC)
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Bigdaddynz wrote:
According to DHL, my starter set has left Germany, and is on its way to NZ.



The tracking is in the 'View My Order History' if you log in with
http://shop.lokshop.de/
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#50 Posted : 05 September 2010 14:54:20(UTC)
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Thanks Stephen. Lokshop also sent me the DHL tracking no.
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