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Offline FMS  
#1 Posted : 05 August 2010 21:47:44(UTC)
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Hi there!

I need some help with the following situation.

With my layout i use Feeder Track 24088, can i plug directly the MS2 like i do with the MS1, or for this MS2 i need the Connector Box 60115?

Is it possible to buy the locomotive card separated?

Sorry for such a simple questions.

Regards
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FMS
Offline steventrain  
#2 Posted : 05 August 2010 22:06:04(UTC)
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I have test the MS2 on 24088 feeder track but not working.

The MS2 must request new 60113 Connector Box only or plug into the CS2.
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Offline FMS  
#3 Posted : 05 August 2010 22:09:59(UTC)
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Blushing Forget the conector box part...i just found the answer:

"For K Track. This box is for connecting a transformer and up to 2 Mobile Stations.
Dimensions 96 x 85 x 40 mm /3-3/4" x 3-3/8" x 1-9/16"."

So my other question is:

Is it possible to plug to the Feeder Track 24088 MS" in the first socket and the MS1 at the second one?

Regards

Regards
FMS
Offline FMS  
#4 Posted : 05 August 2010 22:17:26(UTC)
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Hi Steven! Tks

But they say that 60113 "is for making connections for a power pack or transformer and up to 2 Mobile Stations (60653)".

What you´re saying is that i will not be able to upgrade my layout with the MS2 just by plug it to the Feeder Track 24088 OhMyGod

I thought that it would be simple as swap the devicesConfused i mean just disconect MS1 and connect MS2Confused

Regards
FMS
Offline steventrain  
#5 Posted : 05 August 2010 22:18:26(UTC)
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You need two old MS1 to connecter the 24088 feeder track or 60115 box.

But you need 60124 10-pin to 7-pin adapter cable for connecting a second mobile station to the 60115 Connection Box or 24088 feeder track.
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Offline FMS  
#6 Posted : 05 August 2010 22:47:56(UTC)
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Ok.

Let´s forget the connection of a second MS (I or II).

My question is:

Can i replace the former MS1 that is connected to the Feeder Track 24088 with the new MS2?

Sorry for being so anoying but i nedd to clarify this question.
Regards
FMS
Offline FMS  
#7 Posted : 06 August 2010 00:54:25(UTC)
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Hi, can somebody please help?

Steven said that it´s not possible to plug and play MS2 to feeder 24088, but the plug on the MS comes with a 10 pin connector, ans the socket on the 24088 connector box also have 10 pin connection:

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So is it possible to plug, MS2 to the Feeder Track 24088, and play?


The thing is that my layout im 4000km away from me since i´m in Finland (where i bought the MS2) and the layout is back home in Portugal, so i didn´t had the chance to try it. tomorow i will be at Frankfurt and if something elseis needed to plug the MS2 to my track i may try to get it there.
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FMS
Offline Purellum  
#8 Posted : 06 August 2010 03:26:59(UTC)
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It is NOT possible to use the MS2 in connection with the 24088 in any way.

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Offline FMS  
#9 Posted : 06 August 2010 07:07:04(UTC)
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Tks Per!Cool

Ok, let´s try to get the connector box....

Tnk you both Per and Steven

Regards
Regards
FMS
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#10 Posted : 06 August 2010 09:42:20(UTC)
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FMS wrote:


Can i replace the former MS1 that is connected to the Feeder Track 24088 with the new MS2?



No. The MS2 does not work at all with the 24088 feeder track.

And you cannot use a MS1 as a slave to a MS2.

AFAIK, you can use a MS1 and a MS2 together only if they are both connected to a CS2. The MS2 cannot be used with the CS1.
Offline AJ  
#11 Posted : 08 August 2010 10:13:56(UTC)
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Thanks FMS for asking the question and everyone else for clarifying. I have a 24088 making its way to me from India. Glad to know its useless Sad I had been hoping to do away with using the spade connectors. Tell me that the 24088 will be of some good - like it works with CS2.
For MS2 then any alternatives to the 60113 connector box and spade connectors?
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Offline H0  
#12 Posted : 08 August 2010 11:27:35(UTC)
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AJ wrote:
For MS2 then any alternatives to the 60113 connector box and spade connectors?

24088 contains only sockets and a bridge rectifier (same for 60115).
Digital track signal is generated by MS1.
Both can be used with CS1 and MS1.
Unscrew the box from 24088 and use it like a 24188 ...

60113 contains the processor that creates the digital track signal.
You can use a 60214 instead of a 60113 ...
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Offline AJ  
#13 Posted : 08 August 2010 14:05:59(UTC)
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H0 wrote:
You can use a 60214 instead of a 60113 ...


Tom, i am guessing that the 60214 connects to the tracks with spade connectors. I hadn't realized that the processor from the 60113 was built into the 60214. So if I used a 60173 booster with the 60214, then the booster would plug into the tracks as well in addition to connecting with the 60214 via the 9pin cable.

Using the 24088 as a 24188 is a good use although not what I had originally planned BigGrin RollEyes

Alok
Offline FMS  
#14 Posted : 01 September 2010 04:55:39(UTC)
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Hi!
Just for the record, i manage to get the connector box and everything is working now!
I like the MS2 very much, functions, design, that blue lightSmile very happy with this purchase.

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FMS
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