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Offline biotechee  
#1 Posted : 08 July 2010 01:54:08(UTC)
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Any help is appreciated!

Thanks in advance.
Jim
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#2 Posted : 08 July 2010 02:01:46(UTC)
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Jim,
Kolls is 600 euro. Be careful when buying- unfortunately I bought one a month ago that turned out to be a fake. (from Suter Meggen in Switzerland in case that is where you found it)
Regards,
-JPC
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Offline biotechee  
#3 Posted : 08 July 2010 03:05:08(UTC)
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Thanks JPC...

Not buying, actually selling so I was looking for a guideline.

I'll be selling off most of my small collection to fund another hobby - absolutely no space nor any desire at the moment to have a model railroad. About the only thing I am keeping is my ST800.

Jim
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#4 Posted : 08 July 2010 05:41:09(UTC)
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Hi John,

I still owe you some photos and I will also send to our mutual friend who is assisting you.
I am not great with a camera and the photos are being "done" tomorrow. There is no question
that you have an altered one. All the photos I have seen look like mine NOT yours.

I will be in Switzerland later this month for 10 days, Zurich not Geneva, maybe I can take
mine to show him?

Jeremy.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline steventrain  
#5 Posted : 08 July 2010 16:33:11(UTC)
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There is a rare item now.

Some wanted in otherfourm/advert was looking for it.

Price guide may be up to 1000 EUR at the latest.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#6 Posted : 08 July 2010 20:14:31(UTC)
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Jeremy- no worries on the photos- my claim is already into Visa. I'll drop you a note re: Zurich with some cool train places to visit!
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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#7 Posted : 08 July 2010 23:41:49(UTC)
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Hi John,

I still think you should let Suter Meggen know though.

J.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#8 Posted : 09 July 2010 01:16:14(UTC)
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I tried contact- no reply.... Its a shame.
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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#9 Posted : 09 July 2010 01:19:41(UTC)
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Send him a link to this topicLOL LOL LOL LOL

Best as I can figure he just lost 127 potential clients.

J.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline husson73  
#10 Posted : 09 July 2010 13:20:45(UTC)
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the genuine Märklin snowed locs are an interesting subject.
Think there are:
Crocodile in plastic
Swedish wood electric loc
Schienen bus
Crocodile metal loc

any thing else?
3 rails HO OO O I, DC and AC, analogic and digital.
Offline Nigel Packer  
#11 Posted : 09 July 2010 20:13:38(UTC)
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husson73 wrote:
the genuine Märklin snowed locs are an interesting subject.
Think there are:
Crocodile in plastic
Swedish wood electric loc
Schienen bus
Crocodile metal loc

any thing else?


Here's my list:
0273 Display case to show off snow-covered locos (1988)
28832 Austrian snow-covered set with BR86 and snow blower (2003)
28973 Austrian snow-covered set with Glaskasten and two wagons (2003)
3113 BR86 (1988)
3171 Swedish Type D109 wooden electric (1988)
3359 Be6/8III crocodile (plastic body) (1988)
39569 Ce6/8III crocodile (metal body) (2004)
39983 VT98 railbus (2007)

Nigel
Märklin collector since age 5.
H0 Collection from 1935 to today.
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#12 Posted : 09 July 2010 22:02:35(UTC)
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Hi Nigel,

Interesting list and thanks for posting. Maybe it's because we have no snow here but I love the snowy locs.

I have the Glasskasten, metal Snow Croc, Snowy Wooden e-loc, snowy railbus and the snowblower 28832. Not on
your list BUT might not belong there is the Marklin Christmas loc, not sure #? 37531?

Thanks again,

Jeremy.

Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline Nigel Packer  
#13 Posted : 10 July 2010 13:30:50(UTC)
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Jeremy Palmer wrote:
Not on your list BUT might not belong there is the Marklin Christmas loc, not sure #? 37531?


Hi Jeremy,

Arguable, perhaps! I didn't include it because this loco has a winter theme, but is not "weathered" with snow.

I think there's actually quite a small select set of models with snow applied, considering how much snow there is in the various countries of Europe where Märklin is popular!

Best wishes,

Nigel
Märklin collector since age 5.
H0 Collection from 1935 to today.
Offline pelisee5  
#14 Posted : 19 July 2010 02:49:46(UTC)
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5HorizonsRR wrote:
Jim,
Kolls is 600 euro. Be careful when buying- unfortunately I bought one a month ago that turned out to be a fake. (from Suter Meggen in Switzerland in case that is where you found it)
Regards,
-JPC


Hi there
i´m sorry for your purchase.
Please how you identify that it is a fake?

I recently bought one in Switzerland and I would like to know how identify the original and the copy.

Thank you in advance

JAIME
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#15 Posted : 09 June 2014 09:01:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: pelisee5 Go to Quoted Post
Please how you identify that it is a fake?


Most of the fakes (going by photos seen on ebay) get the snow all wrong, usually way overdone. Here's a photo from Kolls of a genuine 39569.

The other thing I've seen on ebay is people selling fakes often use a 39560 as their base model, and they will put a 39569 sticker over top of 39560 on the loco box - so look out for stickers on the box.

(Previously discussed in this thread: https://www.marklin-user...ile-farm.aspx#post349723 )
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Offline jeehring  
#16 Posted : 09 June 2014 13:21:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: eduard71 Go to Quoted Post
Hi there,
I wonder if someone in this forum has the Millennium cocodrile made of platinum?
Has any of you seen one?

Regards

Eduardo

Not from the forum but, but you may ask German captains of industry families ....who knows if the happy owner does not come here incognito ...Cool (congratulations to him,... such a nice piece..!...even has a big C-Sine motor !!! Wink ).

I was surprised as I had been told the total number of units sold by Marklin : more than 60 !
(I said "more than sixty" Because I Have Been Given the exact number, I dont remember wether 63 or 65 or 66, anyhow .... It was 6x, SIXTIE and something ...)
I was suprised at first because I did not expect that they could sell more than.... round about twenty ....RollEyes

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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#17 Posted : 09 June 2014 18:34:28(UTC)
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Hi all,

Having a fake previously, and now owning the genuine article, I can say the snow is the big difference. The fakes are WAY off the mark. Also, can anyone confirm the box sticker of 39569 as 100% sure being a fake? (I'll check mine tonight) If I remember quickly both that snow croc and the 37569 weathered one had stickers (when I handled genuine articles at a dealer new) but maybe my memory is failing me.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#18 Posted : 09 June 2014 19:05:43(UTC)
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Hi John, my comment regarding the stickers was based on the photo in post #34 in this thread - : https://www.marklin-user...ile-farm.aspx#post349723
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#19 Posted : 09 June 2014 21:53:35(UTC)
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Interesting- that croc is for sure a fake, but I'll look at mine tonight. I think the genuine articles had the stickers too...
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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#20 Posted : 09 June 2014 23:37:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Interesting- that croc is for sure a fake, but I'll look at mine tonight. I think the genuine articles had the stickers too...


Absolutely has stickers - all four sides. The box is in front of me and here is a piccy
Jeremy Palmer attached the following image(s):
Snowy.JPG
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
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Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#21 Posted : 10 June 2014 00:02:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Interesting- that croc is for sure a fake, but I'll look at mine tonight. I think the genuine articles had the stickers too...


Absolutely has stickers - all four sides. The box is in front of me and here is a piccy


Sorry to butt in but I have just been checking all the finished ones in ebay de and if you look closely they ALL have stickers!!!
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#22 Posted : 10 June 2014 18:42:47(UTC)
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I looked last night- the box had the sticker on mine. (bought directly from the dealer)

The think the snow treatment is the main identifyer on the fakes...
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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#23 Posted : 11 June 2014 01:46:04(UTC)
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One on eBay DE at 899 euros and one on Hood DE at 999 Euros - not a clue as to whether these are sold or wished for prices.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/M...BB-digital-/141145013120

and:

http://www.hood.de/i/mae...-serie-2004-53755611.htm

Jeremy.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#24 Posted : 11 June 2014 02:52:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Go to Quoted Post
One on eBay DE at 899 euros and one on Hood DE at 999 Euros - not a clue as to whether these are sold or wished for prices.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/M...BB-digital-/141145013120

and:

http://www.hood.de/i/mae...-serie-2004-53755611.htm

Jeremy.


Those are wished prices, sold ones at 770, 638, 537 euros, there is one for 727 but that one looks very sus!
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#25 Posted : 11 June 2014 18:18:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Go to Quoted Post
One on eBay DE at 899 euros and one on Hood DE at 999 Euros - not a clue as to whether these are sold or wished for prices.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/M...BB-digital-/141145013120

and:

http://www.hood.de/i/mae...-serie-2004-53755611.htm

Jeremy.


Those are wished prices, sold ones at 770, 638, 537 euros, there is one for 727 but that one looks very sus!


Agreed. I'd sell mine for 500 euro tomorrow! Those prices are fishing...
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