What a find...

Wow here is even a picture of the toy store:



Source: http://www.zinnfiguren-b...umer_dresden_Seite_1.htm

Regards,

Bill

The SK800, then known as 3007, was discontinued in 1959. In 1972/73 it was produced again as a kit, under the number 3907.

Does anyone know why they produced this obsolete loco at this time? Was it an anniversary issue?

BTW, good catch, Bill.

This loco was a hybrid with the 2'C'2 axle configuration of a BR 05 and the body of a BR 06. But it was neither a real BR 05 nor a real BR 06, so actually it wasn’t a real model. Eventually, a small firm called Schnabel released a small-series model of the BR 06 using SK 800 parts: they took two SK 800 to assemble a 2’D’2.

The first real model of a streamlined steam engine released by Märklin was item 3094, a BR 03.10, in the early 1970ies. A model of the BR 05 was released by Liliput eventually.

Regards,
Florian

On the picture it looks like the "brunierte" version, not a painted one. Is this right? If so the lok dates from just after WW2 1946 and 1947. Normaly it was only sold in the american PX shops.

Hello,

It is possible that it is the PX model, I have this SK 800 also, but it looks very different. In fact, there are actually three models that were sold during and shortly after "war-time." One model sold during 1945 only that was sold only to American soldiers is the most common as I see them all of the US because they were brought home from Germany. The tender has zinc (or nickel) couplers (very shiny), the locomotive is painted black and there are two holes over the brush holders. Another model, sold to American G.I.'s is actually gray because it has no or little paint. Lastly, there is the "SK 800 E" which was sold 1946-1947 (approximately) and it doesn't have these two holes above the brushes. This model, however, comes in a brown box with an orange/white label with "SK 800 E" on it. I think "E" stands for export. I didn't read any of this information from a book, it is simply what I have observed over the years.

I still think my model is from 1939/1940 because I don't believe Marklin used this label black/orange bast this time-frame, however, it is possible that old labels were used due to a lack of raw materials.

Regards,

Bill

Hello Bill

Could we have 2 better photos of the model, including one of the tender ?
Thnaks. It will certainly help.

Jean-Pierre

Your couplings on the tender are: 1939-1945 Type (4), 1946 (4.1).
The loco itself had minor changes over the years.
To obtain what year this loco was build, it lays in tender. = type of coupling, back of tender: Märklin signet pritned or pressed, waterlid (?),
the loco: from 1945 onwards: brushplate without cover, handrails part of the housing.
I need more sharp pictures (closeups from the tender) to establish the year it was build.

regards.,
John

According to the fact the box has a print of a shop of Dresden which should have disapear during the troubles of WWII, the box must be pre war or 1940(if you agree Marklin didn't built toys after this year until the end of the war), but this doesn't mean obviously the lok was exactly for the same period.

Great...glad we were able to bring all the clues together.

So it was probably made 1940/1941? I forget, did they make the SK 800 in 1939?

Best regards,

Bill

They made a green SK 800 in 1939 with 3 models, one with a coupling type 3 & 4, tender with the Märklin signet raised.
Extra water lid arched.
Over the years someone could of lost the brushplate cover.
But you can be sure between 1941-1942, all depends on the coupling.

John