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steventrain		#1 Posted : 30 December 2009 15:41:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Just to let you know Marklin is starting delivery of 60128 Connect – 6021. The 60128 will connect to 60213/4 with 6021 control unit. Keep posted review here if anyone got one.
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FrankF		#2 Posted : 30 December 2009 20:21:16(UTC) Retweet
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Webmaster		#3 Posted : 30 December 2009 20:56:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,161		Lutz, I would like to know it it works with a classic IB too.
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Bigdaddynz		#4 Posted : 30 December 2009 21:31:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		How about the "Connect 60212", or whatever it is now meant to be. When will a CS1 be able to be connected to a CS2? Thanks for the info, Stephen.
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steventrain		#5 Posted : 30 December 2009 21:41:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Hi, The '6021' not show on CS2 screen with 'set up'. See page 14 of 60128 manual. My CS2 sofeware was 1.2.5 (1). If the 60128 connect to CS2 and '6021' show up on screen?
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Webmaster		#6 Posted : 30 December 2009 22:12:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,161		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />That would probably be a topic for the product "Connect-IB". Not an answer to my question... [}:)] Is the I2C bus connection compatible with IB (as Memory and other "6021 left side" items)? Electrically it should be, but you never know if M have made some tricks to prevent it... I just thought it would be practical to have the older MM loks on the IB and the newer mfx ones on the CS...
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john black		#7 Posted : 30 December 2009 22:43:29(UTC) Retweet
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graafjp		#8 Posted : 31 December 2009 01:12:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 117 Location: Netherlands		I am also wondering if the connect 6021 is compatible with the Uhlenbrock loconet 6021 adapter. At the moment I am using a track-control switchboard in combination with Lissy detectors and would like to continue using thse when the moment is there that I am switching to a CSII. So if anyone has tested this please let us all know.
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Bigdaddynz		#9 Posted : 31 December 2009 01:42:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Jos, I'm sure Clapcott will be the first to let you know. He has a CS2, and several of our club members have IB's, and at least one has the track control switchboard. Clapcott and one of our other members did a club presentation a few months ago on the UB Track Control Switchboard. If there was some way to integrate that with a Central Station, that would be very good.
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clapcott		#10 Posted : 31 December 2009 03:21:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />... It works as documented in the 60128 user guide (can also be downloaded as usual). Hi Lutz, Can you please do me a favour, and describe how someone new to Marklin can navigate their way to the download site for the "60128 user guide" that you refer to. Starting at http:\\www.maerklin.de which items does one click to get there. If you can, then can you repeat the process through the international http://www.maerklin.com/en/ link
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clapcott		#11 Posted : 31 December 2009 03:27:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />What would you like to know? ... Does an accessory change performed on the CS2 get reflected back to the 6040/Keyboard? i.e. do the LEDs on the 6040 correctly mirror changes. What happens on the CS2 if it is used to control a locomotive that is also dialed up on the 6021/603x ? How should the ground/return wire be connected for s88s connected to a 6043 being used with contact tracks ? Please explain what the issue is that requires the warning on page 17 about altering all defined routes ? The ability to extend timing pulses is a function of "Type-B" memories. Does this mean that "Type-A" memories are incompatible ? Will it work with a 6020 (all be it with the obvious limitations) ? How long is the cable? Please confirm it is hardwired at the 60128 box end. How many 60128s can be connected to a single CS2 ? My CS2 is &gt; 1.2.5 but does not have a "6021" panel in the setup/edit menu. - Please verify that this "magically" appears when a 60128 is connected for the first time - Does it disappear when the 60128 is not plugged in/6021 not powered on ? - If so does it retain its locomotive list when reconnected.
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sudibarba		#12 Posted : 31 December 2009 04:32:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 880 Location: Augusta, GA USA		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by clapcott <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br />What would you like to know? ... Does an accessory change performed on the CS2 get reflected back to the 6040/Keyboard? i.e. do the LEDs on the 6040 correctly mirror changes. What happens on the CS2 if it is used to control a locomotive that is also dialed up on the 6021/603x ? How should the ground/return wire be connected for s88s connected to a 6043 being used with contact tracks ? Please explain what the issue is that requires the warning on page 17 about altering all defined routes ? The ability to extend timing pulses is a function of "Type-B" memories. Does this mean that "Type-A" memories are incompatible ? Will it work with a 6020 (all be it with the obvious limitations) ? How long is the cable? Please confirm it is hardwired at the 60128 box end. How many 60128s can be connected to a single CS2 ? My CS2 is &gt; 1.2.5 but does not have a "6021" panel in the setup/edit menu. - Please verify that this "magically" appears when a 60128 is connected for the first time - Does it disappear when the 60128 is not plugged in/6021 not powered on ? - If so does it retain its locomotive list when reconnected. Well, here we go again. When someone gets one, and hooks it up to a CS2, I am sure we would all like a simple clear expanation of how it works. Hopefully, Clappcott will get one and figure it out as I can usually understand his posts. I will order one anyway and see what I can do, but I know I am not the best at this sort of thing. Eric
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graafjp		#13 Posted : 31 December 2009 11:58:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 117 Location: Netherlands		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />.....u.. If there was some way to integrate that with a Central Station, that would be very good. Yes, this would be really great because I like to have a physical switchboard. But as Peter (clapcott) said the status of switches should be communicated back to the connect 6021 when changed on a CSII. Let's hope that the description in the product database is acurate. I did not see this in the anual. From the product database: Schalten von Magnetartikeln mit synchroner Anzeige der Position.. Or in English: switching of signals/switches with synchronous display of it's position..
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Bigdaddynz		#14 Posted : 31 December 2009 12:20:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Well (slightly OT here, but only slightly), many of our club members were very impressed with the IB switch board when it was displayed at a recent clubnight. It has obviously been engineered for use with the rest of the IB system, but if there is a way to integrate it with Marklin's Central Station(s) many people would be happy. I guess for the CS1/Ecos the sniffer port is the only way to achieve this, but that is not bi directional. If the 60128 Connect 6021 gives bi directional communication between a 6021/IB and a CS2, that would make many people happy and interested in the device. Time will tell, but I guess Peter will be getting his hands dirty as soon as he can (if I know him well enough, he will be ordering one right now!) Now all Marklin has to do is to deliver on the promised CS1 to CS2 connection cable/device (or whatever it is meant to be).
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drwhitl		#15 Posted : 03 January 2010 02:41:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/03/2008(UTC) Posts: 97 Location: Auckland,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Now all Marklin has to do is to deliver on the promised CS1 to CS2 connection cable/device (or whatever it is meant to be). According to the system architecture diagram in the 20o9/10 catalogue, the CS1/CS2 connection is via the LAN. i.e. presumably what you're waiting for is a software release for one or both devices that will support that inter-operability. I can see that is going to have ramifications for users of the ESU-upgraded CS1. i.e. it's a pretty fair bet that it won't work under those circumstances. Dennis
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Bigdaddynz		#16 Posted : 03 January 2010 03:03:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Marklin have said that they will not honour a CS2's warranty if it is connected to an ESU-upgraded CS1. The current Marklin Digital CS2 System Architecture off the marklin.de website shows the CS1 connected to the CS2 by way of a "Connect-60212 60121" device, but I think it has been mentioned here that the connection method will be via a cable of some sort. (http://mediencms.maerklin.de/media.php/de/produkte/cs2map.gif) Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 16:56:05(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Bigdaddynz		#17 Posted : 03 January 2010 03:25:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Here is the CS2 System Architecture from the 2010 Catalog, that Dennis refers to: Edited by moderator 11 January 2011 16:55:47(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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drwhitl		#18 Posted : 04 January 2010 10:28:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/03/2008(UTC) Posts: 97 Location: Auckland,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Marklin have said that they will not honour a CS2's warranty if it is connected to an ESU-upgraded CS1. The current Marklin Digital CS2 System Architecture off the marklin.de website shows the CS1 connected to the CS2 by way of a "Connect-60212 60121" device, but I think it has been mentioned here that the connection method will be via a cable of some sort. http://mediencms.maerkli...p/de/produkte/cs2map.gif Yep, the 2 architecture diagrams are quite different, aren't they. From which one concludes that they've made up their mind what they're going to do - several times now - and may keep making up their minds (differently) for some time yet
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steventrain		#19 Posted : 04 January 2010 22:57:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Can you please do me a favour, and describe how ... to the download site for the "60128 user guide" that you refer to. Simply use your Insider login and grab it. I can see it, Thanks Lutz.
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steventrain		#20 Posted : 05 January 2010 21:55:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Have you review the 60128 yet, Lutz?
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pa-pauls		#21 Posted : 05 January 2010 22:56:18(UTC) Retweet
You have been a member since:: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,841 Location: Norway		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich PS: No public report from me until certain response from Märklin. Then I'll guess I'm not the public
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nevw		#22 Posted : 06 January 2010 00:32:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich PS: No public report from me until certain response from Märklin. Then I'll guess I'm not the public Did you already get notice about the cable length? Lutz, Just stop acting as a Pima Donna , stop wearing that broomstick and just answer the question. your actions are stupid and just show your mentality
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john black		#23 Posted : 06 January 2010 01:01:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pa-pauls <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich No public report from me until certain response from Märklin. Then I'll guess I'm not the public The Pinky & The Brain. Just wonder ya never slipped on your track of slime ...
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Alberto Pedrini		#24 Posted : 06 January 2010 01:54:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy		Got it today At last the link between my loved 6021 and the new CS2. Tested now, all perfect Connect the box to the 6021, the cable in the 60173 socket. Turn on 6021 and next the CS2....ok, run the trains in the old system. Tested control 80f and keyboard, I don't have a memory. About the connection of the IB it's better ask to Uhlenbrock, I cannot risk so much.
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nevw		#25 Posted : 06 January 2010 01:58:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Alberto Pedrini <br /> Got it today At last the link between my loved 6021 and the new CS2. Tested now, all perfect Connect the box to the 6021, the cable in the 60173 socket. Turn on 6021 and next the CS2....ok, run the trains in the old system. Tested control 80f and keyboard, I don't have a memory. About the connection of the IB it's better ask to Uhlenbrock, I cannot risk so much. Alberto, as AUnty Lu thinks this is top secret and cannot tell mere mortals can you tell us how long the Cable is? Thanks, NN
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Alberto Pedrini		#26 Posted : 06 January 2010 02:06:01(UTC) Retweet
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john black		#27 Posted : 06 January 2010 02:12:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Alberto Pedrini <br />170 cm. Excellent information, Al - thanks (so much for the difference between Pinky and a Cavaliere ...)
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nevw		#28 Posted : 06 January 2010 02:15:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Thank you Alberto. Now we all know. (See Aunty that was not too difficult and should have not been beyond you capabilities )
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john black		#29 Posted : 06 January 2010 02:18:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		No, Nev. As you can see for him it was difficult, and impossible to do ... Edited by user 07 January 2010 13:00:19(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Bigdaddynz		#30 Posted : 06 January 2010 02:19:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Thanks Alberto, you da man! Alberto, did you plug your box into the 60173 booster, rather than the CS2 or the terminal box?
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Alberto Pedrini		#31 Posted : 06 January 2010 03:21:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Thanks Alberto, you da man! Alberto, did you plug your box into the 60173 booster, rather than the CS2 or the terminal box? No, of course have a look to the Pag. 4 and 5 http://medienpdb.maerkli.../1/pdf/60128_betrieb.pdf or here http://www.marklinfan.ne...cumenti/manuale60128.pdf
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sudibarba		#32 Posted : 06 January 2010 05:07:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 880 Location: Augusta, GA USA		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Alberto Pedrini <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Thanks Alberto, you da man! Alberto, did you plug your box into the 60173 booster, rather than the CS2 or the terminal box? No, of course have a look to the Pag. 4 and 5 http://medienpdb.maerkli.../1/pdf/60128_betrieb.pdf or here http://www.marklinfan.ne...cumenti/manuale60128.pdf I don't read German. Do you connect a transformer to the 6021 and why? Does this feed additional power to the track or is it to run the 6021? Can you use a low power transformer in that case 30VA? Sorry, I am not sure how this works. Lutz, you really are not helpfull. As has been pointed out in the past, people outside of Germany are often hundreds of miles from a dealer. When I get to one, I am usually ahead of them so they are no help. Eric
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Alberto Pedrini		#33 Posted : 06 January 2010 08:42:33(UTC) Retweet
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Bigdaddynz		#34 Posted : 06 January 2010 09:14:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Alberto Pedrini <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Thanks Alberto, you da man! Alberto, did you plug your box into the 60173 booster, rather than the CS2 or the terminal box? No, of course have a look to the Pag. 4 and 5 http://medienpdb.maerkli.../1/pdf/60128_betrieb.pdf or here http://www.marklinfan.ne...cumenti/manuale60128.pdf Thanks Alberto. I may have misread your original answer. You said the cable goes into the 60173 socket (on the cs2), I misinterpreted that as being plugged into the 60173.
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Bigdaddynz		#35 Posted : 06 January 2010 09:18:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by sudibarba <br />Do you connect a transformer to the 6021 and why? Eric, see the architecture diagram. The answer is Yes. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by sudibarba <br />Does this feed additional power to the track or is it to run the 6021? It powers the 6021. You cannot use the track feed from the 6021. Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by sudibarba <br />Can you use a low power transformer in that case 30VA? Most likely you can. I don't see why not! Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by sudibarba <br />Lutz, you really are not helpfull. Par for the course, really! Why are you surprised? Edited by user 08 January 2010 00:54:44(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Bigdaddynz		#36 Posted : 06 January 2010 23:09:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Hemmerich wrote: Bigdaddynz wrote: Alberto, did you plug your box into the 60173 booster, rather than the CS2 or the terminal box? Lutz you Clown, if you even bothered to read further, you would have seen that I said that I misread / misinterpreted what Alberto said in his post. Once again, if you are going to tell a story, make sure you tell the complete story! Now, if you had been considerate in the first place, and answered the questions put to you, we wouldn't have needed to be having this conversation. So, please stop your grandstanding, prima donnaish, Hooray Henry type behaviour, and everyone will be happy. Somehow I don't think this will happen. And yes, I thought there was something wrong with the idea of plugging it into a 60173, that's why I asked. BTW, some winkies for you..... Edited by user 07 January 2010 03:09:24(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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nevw		#37 Posted : 07 January 2010 00:06:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Hemmerich wrote: Alberto Pedrini wrote: Tested now, all perfect I'd suggest to do some more testing. Lutz, Be more specific, Be a Brave Forum member and tel Alberto what is wrong witht he setting up. Is the Cable Faulty??? Wired Incorrectly. Going to Let all of the smoke escape. If you have something to say say it. Do not be a troll Edited by user 07 January 2010 04:23:59(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Alberto Pedrini		#38 Posted : 07 January 2010 15:50:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy		Hemmerich wrote: Alberto Pedrini wrote: Tested now, all perfect I'd suggest to do some more testing. Hi Lutz, test for me means to do what Märklin specify. I'm not an electronic engineer, sorry. Certainly the two Rj plugs makes me curious, and what cold happen connecting the 60128 to an IB, or the Uhlenbrock 6021 adapter (infrared interface and loconet) to the 60128. But this mean risk damages to CS2, IB, 60128 and adapter. Do you know other functions available?
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supermoee		#39 Posted : 07 January 2010 16:57:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/05/2007(UTC) Posts: 534		Hello, I guess Lutz means that it is not working perfect. Other users already reported freezing problems of the CS2 together with the connect6021. The CS2 freezes all 5-6 minutes for few seconds, where you cannot control anything on the CS. The cool part is, you can still comand your loco with the 6021 even if the CS2 freezed With the next software update this problems may be solved. rgds Stephan
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Alberto Pedrini		#40 Posted : 07 January 2010 19:03:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy		Thank you Stephan, I guess these info come from german forum.
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Bigdaddynz		#41 Posted : 08 January 2010 00:52:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Yes I know that Goofy! As I said, I misread what Alberto wrote! Lutz is a Clown, because he deliberately misconstrues peoples posts to make them say what he wants to. Be careful Goofy, he WILL do it to you one day....
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clapcott		#42 Posted : 08 January 2010 09:42:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Guys, The connector labeled as 60173 <mFX Booster> is just another 7-pin M-Bus port. While "primarily" targeted for the booster, it can be used for the MS1 (with usual 60124 <10-7pin adapter> , just like you need for attaching to a 60125 <Terminal>) In the same way, I expect, the 60128 <Connect 6021> to have a 7 pin plug in order to connect into a 60125 <Terminal>. Therefore it will also plug into the 60173 <mFX Booster> port. In summary, if you only want to use ONE of i) mFX Booster, ii) 3rd MS1 or iii) a 60128 you do not need to invest in a 60125 <Terminal> for expansion.
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Goofy		#43 Posted : 08 January 2010 10:17:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,019		Bigdaddynz wrote: Yes I know that Goofy! As I said, I misread what Alberto wrote! Lutz is a Clown, because he deliberately misconstrues peoples posts to make them say what he wants to. Be careful Goofy, he WILL do it to you one day.... It´s still any wrong by called Lutz as clown! What you should do,is to say sorry to Lutz. You are just an childhood,David! Just 50 years old and you cannot still accept,that Lutz was right anyway! You did misread,but called Lutz as clown anyway...
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graafjp		#44 Posted : 08 January 2010 12:07:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/04/2006(UTC) Posts: 117 Location: Netherlands		Goofy wrote: Back to topic: I don´t like this way,by connecting old digitalsystem and the new digitalsystem! If you was i,i would just keep on old system or go over to new system alone. And start driving trainmodels! Oh no Goofy, certainly not. I AM enjoying my trains and want to connect the best of the old 6021+Loconet world to the new (MFX) world. There are still a lot of possibilities not worked out in the new system. And I am not going to rebuild of 50% finished layout because there is no interlocking memory function present in the CSII for controlling my shadowstations So back to my layout and enjoying driving my trains with my new Uhlenbrock Track-Control and good old 6021 . When Märklin fixes the 'feature' in the connect 6021 that when restarting the CSII you have to re-enter all mapping addresses from the 6021 to MFX loc's every time I would starting to consider buying the CSII and connect 6021. (as read on stummi's forum: http://stummi.foren-city...46002,-connect-6021.html )
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Bigdaddynz		#45 Posted : 08 January 2010 12:09:32(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		clapcott wrote: Guys, The connector labeled as 60173 <mFX Booster> is just another 7-pin M-Bus port. While "primarily" targeted for the booster, it can be used for the MS1 (with usual 60124 <10-7pin adapter> , just like you need for attaching to a 60125 <Terminal>) In the same way, I expect, the 60128 <Connect 6021> to have a 7 pin plug in order to connect into a 60125 <Terminal>. Therefore it will also plug into the 60173 <mFX Booster> port. In summary, if you only want to use ONE of i) mFX Booster, ii) 3rd MS1 or iii) a 60128 you do not need to invest in a 60125 <Terminal> for expansion. Thank you Peter. Finally a common sense answer without the BS! Thanks again.
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Goofy		#46 Posted : 08 January 2010 12:50:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,019		Bigdaddynz wrote: clapcott wrote: Guys, The connector labeled as 60173 <mFX Booster> is just another 7-pin M-Bus port. While "primarily" targeted for the booster, it can be used for the MS1 (with usual 60124 <10-7pin adapter> , just like you need for attaching to a 60125 <Terminal>) In the same way, I expect, the 60128 <Connect 6021> to have a 7 pin plug in order to connect into a 60125 <Terminal>. Therefore it will also plug into the 60173 <mFX Booster> port. In summary, if you only want to use ONE of i) mFX Booster, ii) 3rd MS1 or iii) a 60128 you do not need to invest in a 60125 <Terminal> for expansion. Thank you Peter. Finally a common sense answer without the BS! Thanks again. There is just one problem: Connection behind of the CS2 is not the same between booster and terminal! So booster has own plug like CS2,while terminal has another kind of plug like in CS2. So to use 60128,you must have same plug like terminal! So that means,you can plug into CS2 or terminal directly from 60128.
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clapcott		#47 Posted : 08 January 2010 20:46:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,435 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		graafjp wrote: When Märklin fixes the 'feature' in the connect 6021 that when restarting the CSII you have to re-enter all mapping addresses from the 6021 to MFX loc's every time ... (as read on stummi's forum: http://stummi.foren-city...46002,-connect-6021.html ) Can someone verify this? - if you shut-down the CS2 before powering off the 6021 and start the 6021 before restarting the CS2 does the same thing happen ? If this is indeed the case then I would suggest that using the backup/restore function may be a workaround. Can Someone test please? One of he configuration items saved with a backup is for "connect6021.cs2". Therefore if a backup is made when all mappings are complete, restoring the backup should bypass for data reentry.
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Alberto Pedrini		#48 Posted : 09 January 2010 01:52:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 02/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 1,448 Location: Italy		This evening test: CS2 + 60125 + 5 MS (3 with adapter 6104799) + 60128 + 6021 + c80f (the 60173 socket is free) I think this is a configuration that allow to do all what we need, seven mfx controller, two old controller and all the keyboard, memory, shuttle, draw, enclosed in the CS2. What I have done for one hour was run 4 loco and 4 turnouts, assign loco to various control, switch, start, stop, slow, fast, assign, turn off, turn on, repeat etc. All ok. Every MS receive the first 5 locos found on CS2, you can manage them very fast by the touch screen, so when you are in the CS2 switchboard there are five controller visible. Here the assing to 6021 page This function could be useful, but why assign a "mfx loco" to the 6021? It's better control it by a MS. The 60128 born to control the old decoder with the old controller in the old way. I have read also that someone have connect the loconet IR adapter and it runs. Bye
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nevw		#49 Posted : 09 January 2010 02:01:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD		Great collection of Controllers Alberto. Just Great. NN
		NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
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john black		#50 Posted : 09 January 2010 03:19:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY		Hi Al - now you've beaten me by one controller ...
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