You 're so right, Goofy

You (or me) never let it happen getting brainwashed by only one guy who's screaming
blue murder to Juhan the very moment a non-marklin product is just mentioned ... [}:)]

Goofy who do I contact at Zimo for test results. Would it be a Zimo employee who might be biased regarding his own product.
We need somebody on the forum to test the system and let us know what it is like.
I support lots of other manufacturers but I only buy their stuff if it is better than Marklin.

A good tip...!

You can check ZIMO digitalsystem at youtube.com by write zimo dcc.
There is an video at about 9 minutes to watch ZIMO.
Have an nice day!

P.S.
This man at video is an clumsy,by handle with ZIMO cabcontrol...!

Thanks for the info, Goofy.

One thing that concerns me about any digitalsystem, is the "newer versions of the newer versions, updated by a newer version"., and can be connected or programmed by the newer version of the newer version, newer updated version.
New version Decoders are no longer compatible with the old version digital systems or can no longer be updated with the old system.

Although one can use different ports or other additional gadgets, to connect your outdated digital system to a new digital system.



I'm just using a phrase.

another website could be of interest.
http://www.stp-software.at/

It can be turned off.........

Seeing is believing ... [}:)]

Yeahhh...when Marklin company shuts off for good...
In bad economy... [}:)]

Now this is an off topic!

If you want to write something about MS2,do it in another topic instead but not here please!

Only ZIMO...!

I've read a lot about Zimo in the past and I'm getting their newsletter periodically.
What I've noticed, they talk about their new and newer and newest developments and in the beginning, their system did'nt support Märklin's system.
This would'nt of bothered me, as Juhan mentioned, it does'nt matter whether it's 2 or 3 rail.
Märklin decoders would'nt of worked with the Zimo DCC system.
Further more, in the early stages any update you had to go with, was chargeable, this turned me off straight away.
My idea of a digital system is, something I'm happy with and I can use it for my particular layout.
Advanced or more advanced does'nt come into the picture, as such.
Technology can and will improve over the years.
We had submarines being build in Australia with an advanced radar system, it was so advanced, it did'nt work.
What I'm looking for is hopefully a unit with colour screen and an easy scroll window.
I'm used to a commercial inventory system and this gave me all the clicks, paste, entering, save, memory and copy options without going in and out of a window.

What I would expect, if I ask for a Re 10/10, all my Re 6/6 and Re 4/4 would appear on a screen.
It than would be just a matter of combining the locos, it should automatically set the SWISS light functions appropriately, set the CV's to the same value's, than, insert the lenght of the train, if the same, it will bring up previous routes, this train has taken.
Would'nt it be great, if you just touch your screen and call up your freight carriage inventory.
Call up each carriage you would like to make a train consists off.
Call up a loco and press another button: "Go and get it" onto track 12.
With a shunting ramp, each carriage (micro chip implanted) goes over a barcode reader and automatically runs the selected carriages onto track 12.

We also should have a maintenance menu, that shows you or scans your loco's performance.

We've already got locos with certain functions being stored and when called up, these functions are automatically on.
We now can program locos on the run.
We don't know what we can expect in the next few years but I suspect a lot of changes will be in the decoder market.
If you compare mobile phones with train control modules, most of the gadgets on a mobile phone I would'nt use.
I assume, it will be AMRA, that will set the next standards and requirements, as it has done in the past, although, they don't believe in automatic train control.

regards.,
John

C'mon, Gentlemen ...

Goofy is right in keeping his topic straightly ZIMO
Cem too is right in just answering a question

So both of you are right - be friends

Fair right, Cem

Frankly - can't remember [xx(] how often I strayed from a topic ...
But - you say it - not by bad intent but good-natured "wandering" of the mind [:I]

Sorry for my off-topic, Goofy. Was just looking for an explanation ... [:I]

Hi Cem Thanks for your answer and sorry for problem caused by off topic. Sets with MS2 for Xmas would be great.
Maybe Zimo will also bring out a set for Christmas.

Please all stay pals.

Peter

I believe you're right Lutz

Those days I happened to get involved with digital for the first time so I knew very little.

Cem.

Lutz...!
With ZIMOs you can control up to 20 functions at locomotivs in both DCC and MM...!
Why are you taking up with old 6021 to equal with ZIMOs digitalsystem for...???
And besides...i don´t need auto recognation(mfx)for using ZIMOs digitalsystem,when it´s fine with MM anyway and with that all functions too by using it.
It´s not neccesary by using auto recognation...

Isn't the important thing to have a controller that can drive the loks/trains you have?

Then a controller has to be able to generate at minimum MM signals, since also mfx loks can be used with that, if you want to run a loco with an M decoder on your layout...

If you care about snazzy sounds, automatic registration and such - mfx is good for that - but for driving the trains, any system that supports MM is good enough regarding items in the current catalog...

Since many of us have older analog locos to be converted, we might also look for a mix of MM, mfx and DCC decoders as conversion options for various reasons... And then a Controller that supports MM + DCC (eg Intellibox or EcOS) is the obvious choice if we are happy to run our without the fancy 5 variants of horn blowing sounds or whatever the mfx-equipped loks may have...

In short - the primary goal is to be able to run your locs, not to be able to access a lot of extra "goodies"... That's my view - first run, then look at extra stuff...

Excuese me...!
But i did had Lenz digital-plus and can only saying,that with cabcontrol LH100 is the worlds best and friendly by handle with it!
Yes even better than CS either from Marklin,ESU or Viessmann.
About 37% of 100% are using Lenz digitalsystem in Sweden by using DCC.While rest are using an mix of others digitalsystem by using in both DCC and MM.
I have an friend in Sweden,who are using ZIMOs digitalsystem and he is saying that it works so good!
So please don´t write ZIMO "very capable on paper"...!

I don't know how long I'm going to wait for the right one to come along.

I'm using the 6021 and MS at the moment.

Lenz LE900 was an "porr man´s decoder" and fiasco from Lenz side.

ZIMOs decoder for MM works thousands times better!

Well Peter, I believe we had the same dicussion between Lutz` and Goofy´s points of of view about a month ago in this topic, and we haven´t gotten any further by now. Z

Lutz. As you will see from the post of another member and in previous posts a lot of members agree with me.
You have a most unfortunate manner but allowances can be made for that.
Goofy has his views as do others and believe it or not they are just as important as your views. In fact if they are prepared to listen to others then I expect more important.
As our webmaster says many will look to Uhlenbrock and ECOS as that will suit them and if Goofy likes Zimo then I hope that his choice proves to be a top class controller as my CS2 is.
Telling people they dont know what they are talking about and making remarks about their choice of purchase thankfully is very rare on this forum and our webmaster should be congratulated for this. No doubt however the same problem will repeat if anybody else says they prefer something to Marklin.
My own view remains that the CS2 that I own is excellent and the various MS1s that failed were useless but I will purchase the new MS2 and hope it will do the job as I would expect from Marklin.

Peter

May I ask our webmaster to confirm that I can post on Marklin and their products. I have little interest in Zimo.
I note a quote of mine has been altered to bequoted in response. This is considered unacceptable in any forum that I know of.
Can I also ask why when Lutz posts in this type of thread there are problems and not just with me. Apart from Goofy I note also John, Mike, Nev, David, Dave, and many others are all attacked on a regular basis and many threads are locked etc.
Why does this excellent forum have this type of problem. The answer to this can be obtained by looking back and forward to the next relpy from Lutz to this post.
I for example prefer some Viessmann and Brawa products to those of Marklin but there would be littlw point in trying to discuss this here.
I presume Lutz is some type of owner of this forum otherwise we would having these problems.
Meanwhile does anybody here have a Zimo who can support their product or otherwise thus giving us a balanced view to which we can take some note.

Peter

I was going to ask that question of Lutz, as to how he could send you a pm when there is no email address in your profile?

Guess he has just been 'caught out' telling fibbers again!

Goofy,

What I meant by saying it was capable on paper is this, it can do the job that is required of it with as much functionality as any controller out there(I presume).
However, I don't believe the style of user interface that Zimo is offering is as good as Marklin's current controller, and I based my statement on this more than a list of technical specifications.

Cheers....

Mike.

Lutz (or is that Peanuts) at it again, attacking all who ask you to lighten up and be diplomatic and accept nicely that other folk may have different views and that is acceptable.