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Offline H0  
#1 Posted : 03 August 2008 23:46:14(UTC)
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Hello!

Today I compiled some pictures of DB AG class 101.

The sun was behind some clouds when I shot this picture of 101 002 (July 13, 2008):
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This is one of three pre-series locomotives. The pre-series were delivered in oriental red while the main series came in traffic red (oriental red has a shade of deep purple wink).
Pre-series locos have no gap between the ventilation grills.
The loco already has the new UIC number on its side (printed so small that you can't read it).
It's a nice example of weathering, too; all marks on the loco had been cleaned by hand ...

No clouds when I shot this picture of 101 122 (July 13, 2008):
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It's a main series loco (traffic red, gap between ventilation grills); it also has the new UIC number on the side.
(Sorry for the tree - maybe I should have extracted it some years ago.)

Here is 101 137, an ordinary main-series loco (April 29, 2008):
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It was always traffic red, but the patches of new colour look brighter than the rest (yet another weathering example).
The train consists mainly of SBB coaches (it's coming from Switzerland).

Here's another pre-series loco, 101 001 (October 30, 2007):
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It was repaired after an accident - and this side shows more new traffic red than old oriental red ...

Here is 101 135, caught in the act ... (October 3, 2007):
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... of cleaning the wind screen.

This is 101 081 (September 9, 2007):
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Several class 101 locos show this damage over the coupler - don't know for sure what caused this damage.

Here you see 101 097 (July 22, 2006):
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Same damage over the coupler.

Two locos had a different livery for the Metropolitan. Here is 101 130 (March 31, 2004):
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I don't know if the loco was painted silver or had just foils like most advertising locos.
The colour scheme reminds me of the Porsche locos (BR 152, BR 182).
Regards
Tom
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#2 Posted : 04 August 2008 01:19:26(UTC)
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Thanks Tom, another of my favourite era V (or is that era VI??) locos.
Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 04 August 2008 02:04:43(UTC)
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The two leading pictures with the small UIC numbers are surely era VI.
Regards
Tom
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Offline mmervine  
#4 Posted : 04 August 2008 06:28:26(UTC)
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I had a chance to ride the Metropolitan a few years ago. What a nice train. Too bad that it is no more!
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Offline grr_1954  
#5 Posted : 04 August 2008 11:27:41(UTC)
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Hello,

What about taking shots in stations and railroad instalations in Germany?
Due the new rules of spanish infrastructure operator, "Adif", taking photos in stations is forbidden without an acreditation.

Best Regards,
Gerardo Rivero,
San Fernando, Cádiz, Spain.

P.D.

Very funny the image od main page with the AVE and "flamenco" girl! We can't escape from the "Olé" topic!Cool
I get this train frequently from Seville to Madrid, but I prefer the new 103, a german ICE3, or the most powerful 102 "Pato" from Bombardier.
Offline kimballthurlow  
#6 Posted : 04 August 2008 12:25:58(UTC)
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Thanks for the pics, Tom.
regards
Kimball
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Offline hansbos  
#7 Posted : 06 August 2008 09:54:12(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kimballthurlow
<br />Thanks for the pics, Tom.
regards
Kimball

Nice pictures! Am I the only one who thinks these locomotives are ugly? No comparison with a 103 IMO.
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Offline RayF  
#8 Posted : 06 August 2008 12:58:22(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by grr_1954
<br />Hello,

What about taking shots in stations and railroad instalations in Germany?
Due the new rules of spanish infrastructure operator, "Adif", taking photos in stations is forbidden without an acreditation.

Best Regards,
Gerardo Rivero,
San Fernando, Cádiz, Spain.

P.D.

Very funny the image od main page with the AVE and "flamenco" girl! We can't escape from the "Olé" topic!Cool
I get this train frequently from Seville to Madrid, but I prefer the new 103, a german ICE3, or the most powerful 102 "Pato" from Bombardier.


Gerardo, is this for real?

I can understand that you may not do commercial photography without acreditation, but will they really object if you take a couple of snapshots for personal use? I've taken photos of trains in stations in many countries (including Spain) and never had any objection.

Ray
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Offline klinge-germany  
#9 Posted : 06 August 2008 14:09:11(UTC)
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oh yes the metropolitan....i used it 2 times a week from 2001 to end of 2004, the best train DB had in the last 20 years, maybe the right train in the wrong time...but that is how things go...
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Offline grr_1954  
#10 Posted : 06 August 2008 15:16:23(UTC)
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Hello,
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:
Gerardo, is this for real?

I can understand that you may not do commercial photography without acreditation, but will they really object if you take a couple of snapshots for personal use? I've taken photos of trains in stations in many countries (including Spain) and never had any objection.

Ray


The rules are a bit confusing: It's allowed taking photos in the "public" zones of a station, but not in "private zones" like the platforms... But all the trains are in the platforms zone!

The Adif communiqué (is O.K. "communiqué" in english? Sounds like a Dire Straits song :-) is here (in spanish):

http://www.adif.es/comunicacion/index_foto.html

Best regards,

Gerardo Rivero,
San Fernando, Cádiz, Spain.


Offline spitzenklasse  
#11 Posted : 06 August 2008 17:12:59(UTC)
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The series and road nos. are the same after each advertisment change no?
Offline H0  
#12 Posted : 06 August 2008 19:56:39(UTC)
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Yes, the numbers don't change when the advertising changes.
Numbers only change when locos are modified or move to a different company.

AFAIK there were no number changes for BR 101.

I wouldn't call them ugly, but Re 460 and Tauri are more appealing to me.
Regards
Tom
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Offline spitzenklasse  
#13 Posted : 06 August 2008 20:57:44(UTC)
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I would agree, the Taurus has nicer lines. I have a digital Starlight express. It's a nice piece of art. Pricey, but the dollar was high enough in those days to make it affordable. I have the first OBB Taurus. It's sine powertrain is silky quiet.
Offline mike c  
#14 Posted : 07 August 2008 05:05:21(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by spitzenklasse
<br />I would agree, the Taurus has nicer lines. I have a digital Starlight express. It's a nice piece of art. Pricey, but the dollar was high enough in those days to make it affordable. I have the first OBB Taurus. It's sine powertrain is silky quiet.


I personally do not find the latest generation of locomotives attractive. Whether it is the 101, 145, 152, 185, 189, etc. The Re 460 and the Taurus are a little better.
I never personally liked the 103. It looked wierd from certain angles.
As far as DB stock, I liked the 110 (blue, blue/beige/TEE). My favorites have always been the Ae 6/6 and Re 4/4II.

I guess that each of us have our own reasons why we prefer certain designs, colours and other factors. To me, the swiss loks had a "face" in the front, and that was even before I first went to Switzerland and saw them in person.

Regards

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Offline kimballthurlow  
#15 Posted : 07 August 2008 05:40:00(UTC)
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Hans
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:thinks these locomotives are ugly

Yes possible true.
But in 50 years time, when there will have been none salvaged from the scrapyard, enthusiasts will miss them terribly.
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Offline Macfire  
#16 Posted : 07 August 2008 18:03:11(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hansbos
Nice pictures! Am I the only one who thinks these locomotives are ugly? No comparison with a 103 IMO.


Nope.
Me too.
Ugly as sin and dirtier than the dirtiest NZR loco (apart from the diesels that traverse the Otira tunnel).

For me, a picture in 50 years time would be enough!
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Offline DamonKelly  
#17 Posted : 07 August 2008 18:12:55(UTC)
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Well, they certainly look "purposeful", but perhaps not "beautiful"...

This is a German locomotive, after all...
Cheers,
Damon
Offline spitzenklasse  
#18 Posted : 07 August 2008 20:20:50(UTC)
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I like the BR103. I have two versions of cream over red. In certain photos of them coming head on at an angle, they look so cool, elegant, gracefull, yet powerfull, slicing through wind!
Offline jonquinn  
#19 Posted : 10 August 2008 07:15:50(UTC)
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I'm suprised they get so dirty hauling passenger trains, and they are not washed more often. The all red paint scheme is not very appealing to me.
good shots of the subject however.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#20 Posted : 10 August 2008 07:33:54(UTC)
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Red is my favourite colour, so I've no issues with German locos being red. While you would not describe the 101, and indeed the other types Mike mentions, as being elegant, they do have a 'functional' look to them. And of course the 101 is descended from the 103 series.

I do wish the DB would clean their locos though!

I do have a 101 loco, plus 3 103's (2 red/cream, 1 red).

Thanks for describing the colours differences between the pre-series and main series locos, Tom. That may explain why my 37371 BR103 is coloured differently to the traffic red of my other locos. The 37371 has the running number 101 003-2, so I guess this is a pre-series loco. Just had another look at the 37371 and there is no gap between the roof vents, so it is definitely a pre-series 101 loco.
Offline Goofy  
#21 Posted : 10 August 2008 11:17:03(UTC)
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Dirty locomotivs...!

It´s time to stop automobiles who are producing to strong cars,that results to higher coaldioxid in the air...! [xx(]

I prefer want to see cleaner locomotivs.

Goofy [}:)]
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Offline H0  
#22 Posted : 10 August 2008 14:05:02(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />It´s time to stop automobiles who are producing to strong cars,that results to higher coaldioxid in the air...! [xx(]

I think the dirt is carbon from the pantographs.

Edit: Plus some rust from the rails - and maybe some dust from the brakes, too.
Regards
Tom
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