What is the equivalant to M7226 smoke generator in Suethe?

According to M*'s catalogue, Adrian is not correct.

M* say:
7226 is equivalent to Seuthe No. 10, 72270 is equivalent to Seuthe No. 20.
Some Delta locos need Seuthe No. 11 instead of 7226/No. 10.
Some Delta locos need Seuthe No. 24 instead of 72270/No. 20.
(taken from Jahrbuch 2005)

Thanks guys

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Hi Pietro,Hi all,

I'm not quite sure whether I understand your question correctly or not,but it all depends on the fact whether the smoke generator is powered directly by the slider or via the switchable function output,most of the time F1.

Lokos with a 16V-smoke generator connected directly to the slider (which is the case with an analog loco) should not be operated on a Digital layout otherwise the smoke generator will be damaged. The smoke generator should be replaced by a 20V type.

Deltaloks, with a smoke generator connected directly to the slider of the loco should not be equipped with a 16V type of smoke generator.The smoke generator will otherwise be damaged. Also in this case a 20V-smoke generator should be installed.

Caution:
Delta- or Digitallocos, with a switchable smoke generator function should be equipped with a 16V- smoke generator!.
The reason is that the smoke generator with these locos are powered with a reduced voltage.In order to get a reasonable amount of smoke the 16V version gives the best results.
The 20V-smoke generator will only smoke lightly if at all.

<s>The smoke generators for digital locos with a switchable function also draw less current than the other types.</s>
edited: incorrect statement.

According to SEUTHE the 20V-smoke generators have a green tip and the 16V-smoke generators a pink one.

Sorry in German only,but there'e a wealth of information to be found here:
http://www.seuthe-dampf.de/start.htm

Hope this helps a little in the confusing world of smoke.

Kind regards
Guus

There's some more information to be found on smoke generators in Märklins own publication on Maintenance and Troubleshooting book #730.

I don't want to make things any more complicated than they may appear already but I hope you'll find the following interesting:

If you want to connect the smoke generator directly to the trackpower then a Seuthe # 11 might be a good replacement for Märklins 7226,like already mentioned by Thomas.
Among others Märklin models 3301,33102,33911,33951,3415,34880,348882,34883,3701,37880,37882 and 37951 are suitable for this type #11.

For locomotives with a switchable smoke generator function the Seuthe # 24 is a good equivalent for the Seuthe # 20 or Märklin 72270.

Like the #11 the # 24 can withstand higher voltages.
Among others Märklin locos 33181,33184,33185 and 37181 could be equipped with a #24.

Kind regards
Guus

Thank you Guus and Thomas.



Mmmmmh... in LoPi 2.0 the "normal" dimming for function exit has values 0-15 for CV115. There are other values for several purposes (such as blinking lights or other effects...) and values from 96 to 111 are for smoke generator that is also dimmed (96=1V, 111=16V). It works well but it makes me curious....

Regards

Pietro

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Hi Lutz,

You're absolutely right.I stand corrected,must have been a brain fart [:I] I'll remove the above mentioned remark, it's like you say just the other way around.
Thanks for your suggestion on the installation of smaller smoke generators locos.It reminds me of another suggestion made by Märklin that a Seuthe type #100 may be suitable for locos with a plastic body.

Kind regards
Guus

Hi all,
The Suethe 11 works great.
Thanks again.

See also notice from Seuthe in the latest MM (pg. 27 bottom). Lately they have as well added #27 (10-16V) and #28 (16-22V) to their website.

Ooooppppssss... [:I]
Sorry all I mean 10, I'm putting the 11 in another loco soon and yes the 10 works great.