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Offline monster134  
#1 Posted : 10 November 2009 23:38:40(UTC)
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monster134

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Well,whats to do.Ive run this loco very little,because it has 2 spots on the layout where it will stop.

Soooooo,after a massive effort to get the speeds right,i teamed it up...with a loco that did help it in real life too.

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For those of you interested in this combination...you need to set the V100 to max speed 99kmh and the BR01 to max speed 255 and min speed on the V100 to 6kmh and the BR01 to 8kmh.

Then they both run to scale speed 70kmh without spinning a wheel.

Faster than that,and the BR01 starts spinning a wheel or 2 lol.

Both acc and brake delays set to 25s on both locos.They stop perfectly.

Anyways,i hauled 9 coaches around Monsterville....6 laps...that an hour,without a single hiccup.So the BR01 stays.I will run it like this in future.
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Look at that....isnt it pretty.
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A silver snake.
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Ah,and the dreaded drama incline.When things go wrong,its normally here....but the flew over.
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And the second incline.....slight wheelspin from the V100,but effortless on the straight.
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To say im chuffed,is an understatement.Make no mistake,i bought these BR01's because they were pretty.....now they can parade without me wanting to throw them.Ive got 3 of these 01's and only 2 V100's,but i want to see what the V80 will do.Not MFX though so it might be a problem.
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Offline nevw  
#2 Posted : 11 November 2009 00:08:00(UTC)
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Magnificent .
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Offline TimR  
#3 Posted : 11 November 2009 00:11:54(UTC)
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TimR

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Hi Riekus,
I think the V100 and BR01 makes a good looking double-traction...nice photos!
Glad that you are now happy with your 01 Smile

Given the right settings parameter,
I see no reason why models with DCM and SDS cannot be combined to form double-traction consist..as you clearly manage here.

Though I think I can recall Marklin saying that it's 'easier' to run DCM in consist with another DCM..
Now collecting C-Sine models.
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Offline kariosls37  
#4 Posted : 11 November 2009 03:29:04(UTC)
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cool double header, a nice solution as well.
just a thought, is there any free space in the boiler? you might want to cram some lead in there.
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Offline monster134  
#5 Posted : 11 November 2009 11:41:48(UTC)
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<br />Hi Riekus,
I think the V100 and BR01 makes a good looking double-traction...nice photos!
Glad that you are now happy with your 01 Smile

Given the right settings parameter,
I see no reason why models with DCM and SDS cannot be combined to form double-traction consist..as you clearly manage here.

Though I think I can recall Marklin saying that it's 'easier' to run DCM in consist with another DCM..

I dont think the motors matter much,as long as you can match the speeds.

I think if you try and consist 2 different decoders,that might be a problem.Like a FX with MFX.I havent tried,but will later.


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Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 11 November 2009 16:34:13(UTC)
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Hi!
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR
<br />I see no reason why models with DCM and SDS cannot be combined to form double-traction consist.

The speed curves are different.
If both have the same speed at e. g. speed step 70, then the DCM will be faster at speed step 40 while SDS will be faster at speed step 100.

So better don't try this with locos that lose their traction tyres easily.
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Tom
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Offline Brakepad  
#7 Posted : 11 November 2009 19:47:57(UTC)
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I think it may be possible to disable the load compensation on the decoder of one of the locos, so it would be possible to run two locos coupled, even if they had not the same speed curve.
check out http://maerklin-back-on-track.blogspot.com if you like to see how old Märklin locos are brought back into life! (in spanish by the moment)
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Offline TimR  
#8 Posted : 11 November 2009 21:34:23(UTC)
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<br />Hi!
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR
<br />I see no reason why models with DCM and SDS cannot be combined to form double-traction consist.

The speed curves are different.
If both have the same speed at e. g. speed step 70, then the DCM will be faster at speed step 40 while SDS will be faster at speed step 100.

So better don't try this with locos that lose their traction tyres easily.


Generally I prefer not to run double consist, actually..
If I have to put on a show, I prefer running it with a powered and a dummy lok. Ie; I take out the DCM motor in one - noone will be able to tell.
But one day, who knows?

The speed curve characteristic between the 39xxx and 37xxx is different..
MFX SDS lok uses more or less a flat linear speed graph whereas DCM and bell-shaped armature loks use a non-linear graph - smaller speed increments in the first half of the graph, and larger speed change increments in the latter half. That is before we get to talk about the starting voltage settings, etc.

Individually, this curves suit the motor characteristic well; though it would cause difficulty in trying to double consist them, though with fine tuning, nothing's impossible...
Now collecting C-Sine models.
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