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<u>AC Digital Train Set: E 10.3 Sound DB</u>I have ordered a Roco 41274 from Germany. It will be a nice Christmas Present from Santa Claus. Price: 590 Euro (690 Euro)  Edited by user 05 November 2009 18:02:52(UTC)
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Tom Blikstad
HO, german/swiss trains, Märklin K+C, ECoS I+II,
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Tom,
It's indeed a beautiful set, and I suppose that the coaches are at the correct 1:87 scale (303mm), which will add to the elegance of the set. However, don't you mind the fact that the loco's body is made of plastic? Wouldn't it be a much better investment if you purchased the coaches separatedly and ran this consist with any the fantastic Märklin models of the E10? There are at least three versions of it, all first-class models. |
Best regards,
Armando García
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Is this the set with auto-opening doors and lifting pantos? |
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@Armando:
No, I don't like plastic but this set has got so much. I will compare the loco to my Märklin E10.
Yes, so it is.
Either open the doors on the left side or the other, where the platform is.
Every van has got an own Decoder with the adress 3.
The functions:
Belongs to the loco: F1,2,5,6,8,9,10,12,13,14,15
F3 Doors on one side open/shut
F4 Doors on the other side open/shut
F7 Light inside the vans
F16 Conductor flute (only 2. Class van)
F17 Conductor saying "Everybody go inside" (only 2. Class van)
F18 Red light on |
Tom Blikstad
HO, german/swiss trains, Märklin K+C, ECoS I+II,
Viessmann, Kühn, MBTronik, WinDigipet 2012, WinTrack 11 |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB
<br /><u>AC Digital Starter Set: E 10.3 Sound DB</u>
I have ordered a Roco 41274 from Germany.
Hi, I've just ordered, too.  I'm looking forward to arriving Japan. |
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It's not a starter set, it's a train set (neither controller nor tracks included).
But it's a very special train set indeed. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS  |
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I've been admiring this set on the Roco website. It's a lovely Christmas present, Tom. Congratulations! Please post pictures of it going around the tree!  |
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Hello Tom.
I agree with you, it is not a starter set.
A lot of dealers called 41274 a digital starter set. |
Tom Blikstad
HO, german/swiss trains, Märklin K+C, ECoS I+II,
Viessmann, Kühn, MBTronik, WinDigipet 2012, WinTrack 11 |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB
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Belongs to the loco: F1,2,5,6,8,9,10,12,13,14,15
F3 Doors on one side open/shut
F4 Doors on the other side open/shut
F7 Light inside the vans
F16 Conductor flute (only 2. Class van)
F17 Conductor saying "Everybody go inside" (only 2. Class van)
F18 Red light on
The CS1/CS2 have up to 16 functions? |
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy. |
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Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy. |
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Steven, nice pictures, thank you ! My ESU ECoS has got 16 functions, the new ECoS 2 will have 20 and I get my Control Radio next week with 2x10 functions ----> |
Tom Blikstad
HO, german/swiss trains, Märklin K+C, ECoS I+II,
Viessmann, Kühn, MBTronik, WinDigipet 2012, WinTrack 11 |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by steventrain<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB
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Belongs to the loco: F1,2,5,6,8,9,10,12,13,14,15
F3 Doors on one side open/shut
F4 Doors on the other side open/shut
F7 Light inside the vans
F16 Conductor flute (only 2. Class van)
F17 Conductor saying "Everybody go inside" (only 2. Class van)
F18 Red light on
The CS1/CS2 have up to 16 functions? Yes...! While ZIMO has 20 functions and Lenz digital-plus has 29 functions...! |
H0
DCC = Digital Command Control
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Tom, it is a very nice set. Great functiontion and sound to go with them. I was impressed when I saw in the local shop, You really got something to look forward to for christmas. |
Regards Kenneth
CS1 update - K & C tracks - German Era 3B & 4, with some Swiss and Austrian visitors. - My Layout |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />The CS1/CS2 have up to 16 functions? CS1 3.0.x has 20 functions per loco address. Same for ECoS. |
Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS |
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Thanks TomB and Tom. |
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Congratulations.
When it arrives you can ask us: "Bitte einsteigen" und mitfahren. All on board and enjoy the journey.
regards.,
John
P.S.
For modellers who have not purchased a Roco loco before:
Because Roco models have a plastic body (very heavy metal blockframe) , they are very detailed, no difference to damage as metal bodies, more pullingpower and even more if desired by exchanging one of the none tyretraction axle with one that has, very smooth and quite running characteristics (even at high speed).
Most E-locos have interchangeable front skirts (without the coupling shaft), a silent slider (especially c-track), Interchangeable decoder plug (socket),
all locos have protoypical Pantographs, newer locos have led's, 99% of locos have markerlights (where applicable).
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by Goofy<br />Yes...! While ZIMO has 20 functions and Lenz digital-plus has 29 functions...! Hi Goofy, How many arms should one have to operate 4 trains with 29 functions each on a layout? Cem. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109
<br />Because Roco models have a plastic body ... they are very detailed
Not always though. Cem. |
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65
<br />How many arms should one have to operate 4 trains with 29 functions each on a layout? Hello Cem. Have you forgotten to make children. You should have enough to play football or play with your trains .... |
Tom Blikstad
HO, german/swiss trains, Märklin K+C, ECoS I+II,
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote: Originally posted by TomB<br /> Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65
<br />How many arms should one have to operate 4 trains with 29 functions each on a layout? Hello Cem. Have you forgotten to make children. You should have enough to play football or play with your trains .... Looks like I indeed forgot Tom Cem. |
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That's a nice set Tom. I can sort of make up a similar train with my Marklin 39120 E10.3 and coaches from the 29010 starter sets (I have 10 of them). I say sort of, because my train doesn't have the decoders and other fancy features.
Good to see that ESU are finally delivering the Ecos Radio Control. More incentive for me to upgrade my CS1 to v3.0.
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This is a lovely set. Congratulations! I've many Roco 3AC locomotives, and I don't notice any difference in running qualities. I would like to own a similar set, but I should buy a modern CS instead of my 6021 with 4 functions... Pietro
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