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TomB		#1 Posted : 05 November 2009 14:05:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		<u>AC Digital Train Set: E 10.3 Sound DB</u> I have ordered a Roco 41274 from Germany. It will be a nice Christmas Present from Santa Claus. Price: 590 Euro (690 Euro) Edited by user 05 November 2009 18:02:52(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Armando		#2 Posted : 05 November 2009 16:07:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/07/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,358 Location: Houston, Texas		Tom, It's indeed a beautiful set, and I suppose that the coaches are at the correct 1:87 scale (303mm), which will add to the elegance of the set. However, don't you mind the fact that the loco's body is made of plastic? Wouldn't it be a much better investment if you purchased the coaches separatedly and ran this consist with any the fantastic Märklin models of the E10? There are at least three versions of it, all first-class models.
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Brakepad		#3 Posted : 05 November 2009 16:12:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 633 Location: Montlouis sur Loire, France		Is this the set with auto-opening doors and lifting pantos?
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TomB		#4 Posted : 05 November 2009 16:45:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		@Armando: No, I don't like plastic but this set has got so much. I will compare the loco to my Märklin E10. Yes, so it is. Either open the doors on the left side or the other, where the platform is. Every van has got an own Decoder with the adress 3. The functions: Belongs to the loco: F1,2,5,6,8,9,10,12,13,14,15 F3 Doors on one side open/shut F4 Doors on the other side open/shut F7 Light inside the vans F16 Conductor flute (only 2. Class van) F17 Conductor saying "Everybody go inside" (only 2. Class van) F18 Red light on
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Hajime		#5 Posted : 05 November 2009 17:02:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2002(UTC) Posts: 88 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB <br /><u>AC Digital Starter Set: E 10.3 Sound DB</u> I have ordered a Roco 41274 from Germany. Hi, I've just ordered, too. I'm looking forward to arriving Japan.
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H0		#6 Posted : 05 November 2009 17:51:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,444 Location: DE-NW		It's not a starter set, it's a train set (neither controller nor tracks included). But it's a very special train set indeed.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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RayF		#7 Posted : 05 November 2009 17:58:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,870 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		I've been admiring this set on the Roco website. It's a lovely Christmas present, Tom. Congratulations! Please post pictures of it going around the tree!
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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TomB		#8 Posted : 05 November 2009 18:01:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		Hello Tom. I agree with you, it is not a starter set. A lot of dealers called 41274 a digital starter set.
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steventrain		#9 Posted : 05 November 2009 18:31:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,692 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB <br /> Belongs to the loco: F1,2,5,6,8,9,10,12,13,14,15 F3 Doors on one side open/shut F4 Doors on the other side open/shut F7 Light inside the vans F16 Conductor flute (only 2. Class van) F17 Conductor saying "Everybody go inside" (only 2. Class van) F18 Red light on The CS1/CS2 have up to 16 functions?
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steventrain		#10 Posted : 05 November 2009 18:38:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,692 Location: United Kingdom		I have see one at Dublin exhibition and fair. I have taken a photos http://irelandexhibition...topic.net/p61769905.html http://irelandexhibition...topic.net/p61769907.html
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TomB		#11 Posted : 05 November 2009 18:45:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		Steven, nice pictures, thank you ! My ESU ECoS has got 16 functions, the new ECoS 2 will have 20 and I get my Control Radio next week with 2x10 functions ---->
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Goofy		#12 Posted : 05 November 2009 19:14:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,277		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB <br /> Belongs to the loco: F1,2,5,6,8,9,10,12,13,14,15 F3 Doors on one side open/shut F4 Doors on the other side open/shut F7 Light inside the vans F16 Conductor flute (only 2. Class van) F17 Conductor saying "Everybody go inside" (only 2. Class van) F18 Red light on The CS1/CS2 have up to 16 functions? Yes...! While ZIMO has 20 functions and Lenz digital-plus has 29 functions...!
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Piggy		#13 Posted : 05 November 2009 19:56:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/05/2009(UTC) Posts: 590 Location: Sydney		Tom, it is a very nice set. Great functiontion and sound to go with them. I was impressed when I saw in the local shop, You really got something to look forward to for christmas.
		Regards Kenneth CS1 update - K & C tracks - German Era 3B & 4, with some Swiss and Austrian visitors. - My Layout
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H0		#14 Posted : 05 November 2009 20:49:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,444 Location: DE-NW		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />The CS1/CS2 have up to 16 functions? CS1 3.0.x has 20 functions per loco address. Same for ECoS.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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steventrain		#15 Posted : 05 November 2009 20:54:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,692 Location: United Kingdom		Thanks TomB and Tom.
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river6109		#16 Posted : 06 November 2009 10:20:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,875 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Congratulations. When it arrives you can ask us: "Bitte einsteigen" und mitfahren. All on board and enjoy the journey. regards., John P.S. For modellers who have not purchased a Roco loco before: Because Roco models have a plastic body (very heavy metal blockframe) , they are very detailed, no difference to damage as metal bodies, more pullingpower and even more if desired by exchanging one of the none tyretraction axle with one that has, very smooth and quite running characteristics (even at high speed). Most E-locos have interchangeable front skirts (without the coupling shaft), a silent slider (especially c-track), Interchangeable decoder plug (socket), all locos have protoypical Pantographs, newer locos have led's, 99% of locos have markerlights (where applicable).
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tekin65		#17 Posted : 06 November 2009 10:24:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br />Yes...! While ZIMO has 20 functions and Lenz digital-plus has 29 functions...! Hi Goofy, How many arms should one have to operate 4 trains with 29 functions each on a layout? Cem.
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tekin65		#18 Posted : 06 November 2009 10:26:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109 <br />Because Roco models have a plastic body ... they are very detailed Not always though. Cem.
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TomB		#19 Posted : 06 November 2009 13:46:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/02/2007(UTC) Posts: 412 Location: Asker, Norway		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65 <br /> How many arms should one have to operate 4 trains with 29 functions each on a layout? Hello Cem. Have you forgotten to make children. You should have enough to play football or play with your trains ....
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tekin65		#20 Posted : 06 November 2009 14:31:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,151 Location: istanbul,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by tekin65 <br /> How many arms should one have to operate 4 trains with 29 functions each on a layout? Hello Cem. Have you forgotten to make children. You should have enough to play football or play with your trains .... Looks like I indeed forgot Tom Cem.
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Bigdaddynz		#21 Posted : 10 November 2009 11:26:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,771 Location: New Zealand		That's a nice set Tom. I can sort of make up a similar train with my Marklin 39120 E10.3 and coaches from the 29010 starter sets (I have 10 of them). I say sort of, because my train doesn't have the decoders and other fancy features. Good to see that ESU are finally delivering the Ecos Radio Control. More incentive for me to upgrade my CS1 to v3.0.
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al_pignolo		#22 Posted : 10 November 2009 12:23:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 30/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 904 Location: bologna, BO		This is a lovely set. Congratulations! I've many Roco 3AC locomotives, and I don't notice any difference in running qualities. I would like to own a similar set, but I should buy a modern CS instead of my 6021 with 4 functions... Pietro
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