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steventrain		#1 Posted : 17 September 2009 16:37:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Hi all, The 39390 BR39 is ready for delivery as yellow light on database. I can't wait to mine soon.[:p]
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pab		#2 Posted : 17 September 2009 17:29:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 2,764		Thanks for the news. Now I can't wait to have mine too
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steventrain		#3 Posted : 18 September 2009 11:56:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		39390 manual download in PDF. http://medienpdb.maerkli.../1/pdf/39390_betrieb.pdf
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Bigdaddynz		#4 Posted : 18 September 2009 12:04:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		I'm keeping an eye out for the Br39. Can't be too far away now!
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Rocca		#5 Posted : 18 September 2009 13:29:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 632		oohhh...thanks for having posted the pdf file!!! I'm waiting for it too....it sounds greatttttttttttt..!!!
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pab		#6 Posted : 21 September 2009 19:00:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 2,764		Thanks Lutz. I hope it will arrive soon in the Netherlands.
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steventrain		#7 Posted : 21 September 2009 19:06:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Thanks for the link and pictures, Lutz.
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Bigdaddynz		#8 Posted : 22 September 2009 03:45:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Thanks Lutz for the pictures and link. Pity the poor guys who lost a wheel off their MRR module (Pictures 1 & 2 in Lutz's link).
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Hajime		#9 Posted : 22 September 2009 20:55:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2002(UTC) Posts: 88 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />39390 manual download in PDF. Reading the manual, I noticed that changing traction tire is getting more troublesome.
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I_love_Marklin_37538		#10 Posted : 23 September 2009 09:49:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 19/09/2008(UTC) Posts: 957 Location: ,		I might get a KPEV version of the 39 if M will make one of course
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Frostie		#11 Posted : 25 September 2009 03:48:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/08/2003(UTC) Posts: 1,614 Location: Birmingham,Alabama		Anxiously awaiting arrival.
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pa-pauls		#12 Posted : 25 September 2009 13:28:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Here it is with many nice picture's : http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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steventrain		#13 Posted : 25 September 2009 16:37:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Very nice indeed.
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jeehring		#14 Posted : 25 September 2009 16:50:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Looks so nice and highly detailed !The rods seem to be marvelously reproduced. Looking at the pictures, i'm wondering why should I spend 1800 E into hand-crafted models ! ( I'm just afraid of one thing : are the smoke deflectors metal [^] or...plastic [V] ?)
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Bigdaddynz		#15 Posted : 28 September 2009 03:08:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Another ebay auction has appeared. http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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shannon		#16 Posted : 28 September 2009 05:44:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/01/2005(UTC) Posts: 353 Location: Taipei,		Nicely detailed. The loc looks like 18.3 with the hollowed chassis.
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Bigdaddynz		#17 Posted : 30 September 2009 00:52:39(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Another ebay auction for 39390 http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 The first auction ended at 436 EUR, more expensive than the recommended retail price of 399 EUR.
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TimR		#18 Posted : 30 September 2009 01:45:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Another ebay auction for 39390 http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 The first auction ended at 436 EUR, more expensive than the recommended retail price of 399 EUR. I've seen 39050 goes for 500 EUR plus over the past year.. I hope I'm not poking on a hornet's nest here; but Marklin could have offered these insider models themselves to "outsider" clubs at slight premium and pocketed the extra profit themselves. With the advent of eBay, I don't think there is anything anyone could do to control the "exclusivity" of an item anyway.. This auction is just an example on how people can still make money off Marklin - though not into Marklin's own pocket.
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H0		#19 Posted : 30 September 2009 02:04:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR <br />I've seen 39050 goes for 500 EUR plus over the past year.. I hope I'm not poking on a hornet's nest here; but Marklin could have offered these insider models themselves to "outsider" clubs at slight premium and pocketed the extra profit themselves. The person that sold the loco paid for it - and paid the membership dues to get the order form. Märklin got their share. Rumours say that insider models are selling around 20,000 copies. Märklin got their share. The outsider model will follow - maybe as CBE or similar where you pay the "premium" to get a wooden box.
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TimR		#20 Posted : 30 September 2009 02:27:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by H0 The person that sold the loco paid for it - and paid the membership dues to get the order form. Märklin got their share. Rumours say that insider models are selling around 20,000 copies. Märklin got their share. The outsider model will follow - maybe as CBE or similar where you pay the "premium" to get a wooden box. Hi Tom, What I mean is that it's an extra 36 Euros that Marklin won't get a share. That seemingly modest amount is probably already around 30-40% of their profit margin on the model. I'm not one to pay premiums, but some people will. I'll be waiting for an outsider's version, but hopefully it won't going to be the final CBE. I bought one of these. The wooden display is currently still sitting in its box, as I have no use for it. Also cost me a significant "premium" in shipping thanks to the huge box - with the lok only taking less than a quarter of the space.
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steventrain		#21 Posted : 30 September 2009 20:14:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		I paid £319 (about 380 euros) for 39050 two year ago with coupon. Edited by user 04 October 2009 10:54:00(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Bigdaddynz		#22 Posted : 30 September 2009 23:34:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Yet another ebay auction http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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steventrain		#23 Posted : 30 September 2009 23:36:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Yet another ebay auction http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 List start half hour ago for three days auction.
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Bigdaddynz		#24 Posted : 04 October 2009 06:30:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Yet another ebay auction http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 Sold for 451 euro.
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steventrain		#25 Posted : 04 October 2009 10:55:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Yet another ebay auction http://cgi.ebay.de/Maerk...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 Sold for 451 euro. That's high price so far. Keep eye on ebay seller use 'buy it now' for under 400 euro. That's one sold for 399 from MS-Toys But it now. http://cgi.ebay.de/MS-TO...amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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Bigdaddynz		#26 Posted : 04 October 2009 10:58:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Too right Stephen. I'm keeping an eye on johnvandamme, station500 and other dealers for this loco. I'm sure they will have it soon!
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Goofy		#27 Posted : 04 October 2009 11:11:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by H0 Rumours say that insider models are selling around 20,000 copies. 20 000 copies of BR39 with sound...??? Then in case not worth as collector under at least 100 year!!!
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mvd71		#28 Posted : 04 October 2009 11:38:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,935 Location: Auckland,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:20 000 copies of BR39 with sound...??? Then in case not worth as collector under at least 100 year!!! If you do buy it as a collectors item, Marklin will re-issue it in a couple of years with a different running number![}:)]
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Bigdaddynz		#29 Posted : 04 October 2009 11:46:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Maybe, but in that case we're still waiting for the non streamlined version of the Br05 to be reissued!
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steventrain		#30 Posted : 04 October 2009 12:19:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		It should be 5000 or less of BR39.
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H0		#31 Posted : 04 October 2009 13:25:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />It should be 5000 or less of BR39. Where is the 5000 coming from? The ICE-S (39710) was limited to 6000 exemplars - and they made a lottery because they had many more orders. The BR 39 will be produced according to the orders they get. I don't know if that's 2,000 or 20,000. There are not many figures available. Here is one: Märklin Magazin has 55,977 subscribers. So this is the upper limit for the German speaking Insider Club Members.
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H0		#32 Posted : 04 October 2009 13:31:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,467 Location: DE-NW		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Maybe, but in that case we're still waiting for the non streamlined version of the Br05 to be reissued! BR 10 came back, BR 45 came back, BR 05 streamlined came back. Senator had two different liveries during his short life - so I guess we'll see that back in a while, too. I don't know how much they'll have to change to produce a non-streamlined 05 001 or 002. It wouldn't surprise me to see that in 2010 or '11.
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Bigdaddynz		#33 Posted : 04 October 2009 13:35:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by H0 <br />I don't know how much they'll have to change to produce a non-streamlined 05 001 or 002. It wouldn't surprise me to see that in 2010 or '11. I'd be looking forward to that one! Also Tom, Big Boy came back, at least 2 or 3 times (if you count the weathered version).
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TimR		#34 Posted : 05 October 2009 09:21:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by H0 <br />I don't know how much they'll have to change to produce a non-streamlined 05 001 or 002. It wouldn't surprise me to see that in 2010 or '11. I'd be looking forward to that one! Me too With Marklin continue to hover around just about making minimal profitability - they're going to need solid, strong sellers with minimal or little investments. I think out of all the Insider models they released in the past 10 years; this model is most likely to be the most successful if it will ever released as a regular production. Might even be the first model that I will ever preorder... ..might even get two
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Bigdaddynz		#35 Posted : 14 October 2009 14:44:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Has anyone received their 39390 Br39 yet?
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Jeremy Palmer		#36 Posted : 14 October 2009 16:18:10(UTC) Retweet
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pa-pauls		#37 Posted : 14 October 2009 16:18:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,843 Location: Norway		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Has anyone received their 39390 Br39 yet? It's on it's way to Norway as of yesterday [:p]
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Nigel Packer		#38 Posted : 14 October 2009 18:43:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 11/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 700 Location: Cheshire, UK		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Has anyone received their 39390 Br39 yet? Mine arrived in England (from Germany) on the 1st October. Nigel
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jeehring		#39 Posted : 14 October 2009 19:53:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />39390 manual download in PDF. http://medienpdb.maerkli.../1/pdf/39390_betrieb.pdf I'm sorry Steven...the adress only drives me to a white page with the logo "MARKLIN" in red letters. Any advice ? Any other adress or password? thank you
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Goofy		#40 Posted : 14 October 2009 20:02:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />39390 manual download in PDF. http://medienpdb.maerkli.../1/pdf/39390_betrieb.pdf I'm sorry Steven...the adress only drives me to a white page with the logo "MARKLIN" in red letters. Any advice ? Any other adress or password? thank you Same here for me... Only logotyp of red Marklin sign! [xx(]
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steventrain		#41 Posted : 14 October 2009 20:05:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,705 Location: United Kingdom		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by jeehring <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain <br />39390 manual download in PDF. http://medienpdb.maerkli.../1/pdf/39390_betrieb.pdf I'm sorry Steven...the adress only drives me to a white page with the logo "MARKLIN" in red letters. Any advice ? Any other adress or password? thank you You don't need password. Click the link and scroll down to see 39390 and click 'download'. http://www.maerklin.de/d...?page=1&perpage=1188
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jeehring		#42 Posted : 14 October 2009 20:21:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Oh... I got it now! Sorry....it's my fault, as I launched the research it didn't take the complete adress thanks again !
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jeehring		#43 Posted : 14 October 2009 20:24:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		this model looks so nice ! I'm longing to see it in real ! (obviously.. all pictures are welcome !) Edited by user 15 October 2009 01:11:10(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Bigdaddynz		#44 Posted : 15 October 2009 02:10:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		I emailed Station500 (Matthias) as to whether he would have some available for purchase. Here is his reply: "I have a lot in backorder, but actually I can not say whether I have some free.....I´m sorry."
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monster134		#45 Posted : 15 October 2009 02:21:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2007(UTC) Posts: 705 Location: ,		Ha...got my grubby little mits on one.It should be here on Monday or so. I did have a look at one yesterday.Very very nice loco.The sound is fantastic,typical offbeat 3cylinder sound.Goes in and out of sink....lovely.I had a look at the BR23 with sound as well.Has a lovely hornsound with echo.Pity they couldnt do the echo on the BR39. I see that on both BR23 and BR39 the wheels are painted red on the ridge as well.The BR39 hasnt got it on the tender though.BR23 has.Lots of detail on both locos,both brilliantly made. Ive got the BR23 on order.Should be here soon as well.
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Bigdaddynz		#46 Posted : 15 October 2009 02:38:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Monster, did you score one of the ones that were being auctioned on ebay?
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monster134		#47 Posted : 15 October 2009 10:25:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/10/2007(UTC) Posts: 705 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz <br />Monster, did you score one of the ones that were being auctioned on ebay? Nope,got offered one by a dealer here,and i took it.Expensive though.Around 450 euro.
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Goofy		#48 Posted : 15 October 2009 10:43:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,292		Phew...! What a hell lot of service with oildrops at all wheels and off leash on the steamlocomotiv! [:0] You can see that at brochure of BR39! [xx(]
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Bigdaddynz		#49 Posted : 15 October 2009 12:17:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by monster134 <br />Nope,got offered one by a dealer here,and i took it.Expensive though.Around 450 euro. Ow! RRP was 399 euro (inc VAT).
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minirail		#50 Posted : 15 October 2009 13:33:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/01/2007(UTC) Posts: 35 Location: Johannesburg,		Hi Riekus I am glad to have been able to get you a class 39, however your price is incorrect Rand's and not Euro's. If you want your Marklin locomotives just after release such as the class 23 you now know where to place your future orders. Steve
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