As I had told you earlier, Bob - wonderful collection of excellence, congratulations !!! [:p][^]

Somehow they remind me on planes. A bit ... [:p]

Here's a 3077 conversion thread:

https://www.marklin-user...398&SearchTerms=3077

Thanks David, I was wondering where that post was. Have it saved now for future reference.

Nev, I must be greedy. Just won an auction on Ebay for a pristine condition 3077. So my Zeppelin Fleet is growing still!

Greedy Bob

And I'm very happy with my unprototypical 3477...

Quite interesting that the 1-, Z- & N-scale models are more prototypical (only 2 axles) than the 3077/3477...

Not too sure why Marklin kept the HO versions non-prototypical. Only guessing that it had something to do with it being AC? Guess with a single prototypical arrangement it wouldn't of been possible to mount the much needed slider.

Question now was the 3077 and 3477 ever available in Trix version? I do not have any Trix catalogs from that long ago otherwise I would look it up.

Bob

Another reason could be the former 285mm radius curves from M track...I think.
Other alternative : a matter of radius , as well, the 360mm radius R1 curve.....
Depending on the length of zeppelin...
It seems the Zeppelin model was available before avaibility of C-track, so....it was iniatially made for M-Track...


On the N-scale model the wheel base is different, it could be the single one to be prototypical...but surely needs a minimum radius curve... (which one is really/close to be prototypîcal..I'm far to be sure...this must be verified)).

About the slider :
I'm quite sure Marklin is able to make a special one or a kind of pivoting mechanism with a small slider...
I would like a new model : full metal with nice interior settings + more prototypical axles . The small SDS motor can be hidden easily. They could do it for 360mm radius . 75 mm wider means ...easier !

congratulations Bob.
I got only one zeppelin .Ho scale . It is with a kind of "golden grey" color with marks on it . It is still in its box .

Juhan,

I was just doing some reading and I think that maybe the 3077 and 3477 maybe more correct than we actually thought. Seems like a later change or two to the wheels they actually replaced them with a Bogie type arrangement. I found this on Wikipedia. Haven't seen any pictures with the Bogie style arrangement but somewhere there has to be at least one someplace? Maybe Lutz has one?

Here is what Wikipedia says....

In 1932 Kruckensberg began a new project with the rail car involving significant modifications. It was cut just behind the forward wheels and received a complete new front end with a TWO-AXLE BOGIE, resembling the later 137 155 railcar. The rear single axle remained as it was. The modifications were completed by November 1932. The aircraft engine was still used, however, the power transmission was hydraulic through two Fottinger- Fluid drives for both directions of travel, these were fitted on the forward bogie. A pointed fairing was installed in place of the propeller. These changes meant that the earlier 1-1 wheel arrangement was replaced by B-1 with the front axle replaced by a powered bogie.This version of the vehicle reached 180km/h at the beginning of 1933.

This is fun stuff. I wouldn't of known anything about these Zeppelins if I would of never found your website. You guys are a wealth of information. And I do mean that. The knowledge on this forum is second to none.

Bob

Hi Peter,

Yes Guy the owner of the above website asked me if he could use my picture for a while. I had to since he gave me a great deal on that 1 Guage Zeppelin. Thing is a monster....

Bob