Joined: 18/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 502 Location: , Texas
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Answer is all the Rail Zeppelin's! I finally got a good deal on a 1 Gauge Rail Zeppelin. We all have our favorite trains. However once I saw this beauty several years ago I had to have it. Not stopping with just one. The first one I found was a 3477. It has never been run. In fact it has never been out of the box. I will keep it that way. It is in pristine condition. Here is some of my collection of Zeppelins. I have the 1 Gauge, 2 3077's in HO, 1 3477 HO, 1 Kato N Guage and 1 Z Scale 8876. Here are some photos.     I am in the process of converting a 3077 with a MFX decoder. Haven't started on it yet. (Wish Lutz would hurry up in converting one) The 1 Guage is the only 1 Guage train I have. I had to have that big Rail Zeppelin to add to the collection. And yes I want to be buried with them.....   
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Joined: 22/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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As I had told you earlier, Bob - wonderful collection of excellence, congratulations !!!  [:p]  [^] Somehow they remind me on planes. A bit ... [:p] |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand
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Great pictures, thanks for sharing Bob.
And of course, the Insider Canoe is powered by 1 Gauge Zeppelins........
Seriously though, there have been a couple of threads in this forum where one or two folks have converted their 3077's to digital running.
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,778 Location: New Zealand
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Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD
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Whats better than 1 Rail Zeppelin, thats easy, 2 of them. any more and you are greedy.
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NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Joined: 18/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 502 Location: , Texas
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Thanks David, I was wondering where that post was. Have it saved now for future reference.
Nev, I must be greedy. Just won an auction on Ebay for a pristine condition 3077. So my Zeppelin Fleet is growing still!
Greedy Bob
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Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,071 Location: Murrumba Downs QLD
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I will re-phrase my post and say fortunate, not greedy. Congrats. N |
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders and a hose pipe on the aorta Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around |
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Joined: 25/07/2001(UTC) Posts: 11,165
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And I'm very happy with my unprototypical 3477...
Quite interesting that the 1-, Z- & N-scale models are more prototypical (only 2 axles) than the 3077/3477...
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Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,289
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Webmaster <br />And I'm very happy with my unprototypical 3477...
Quite interesting that the 1-, Z- & N-scale models are more prototypical (only 2 axles) than the 3077/3477...
Perhaps too small brain from Marklin company at HO area...???    |
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Joined: 18/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 502 Location: , Texas
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Not too sure why Marklin kept the HO versions non-prototypical. Only guessing that it had something to do with it being AC? Guess with a single prototypical arrangement it wouldn't of been possible to mount the much needed slider.
Question now was the 3077 and 3477 ever available in Trix version? I do not have any Trix catalogs from that long ago otherwise I would look it up.
Bob
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Joined: 08/05/2009(UTC) Posts: 590 Location: Sydney
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It a very nice collection Bob, it is interesting to see the differences of the models. I guess M made the 3077 with bogies to be able to navige through R1 S-curves and points, a rigid design would have had an axle spacing of close to 20 cm. I noticed a different axle spacing on the N and Z scales models too. From prototype photos I saw, I guess the N scale more correct, but probably the Z scale is easier to run on a small layout. |
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Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,
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Quote:[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bob R <br />Not too sure why Marklin kept the HO versions non-prototypical. Only guessing that it had something to do with it being AC? Guess with a single prototypical arrangement it wouldn't of been possible to mount the much needed slider.
Question now was the 3077 and 3477 ever available in Trix version? I do not have any Trix catalogs from that long ago otherwise I would look it up.
Bob
Another reason could be the former 285mm radius curves from M track...I think. Other alternative : a matter of radius , as well, the 360mm radius R1 curve..... Depending on the length of zeppelin... It seems the Zeppelin model was available before avaibility of C-track, so....it was iniatially made for M-Track... On the N-scale model the wheel base is different, it could be the single one to be prototypical...but surely needs a minimum radius curve... (which one is really/close to be prototypîcal..I'm far to be sure...this must be verified)  ). About the slider : I'm quite sure Marklin is able to make a special one or a kind of pivoting mechanism with a small slider... I would like a new model : full metal with nice interior settings + more prototypical axles . The small SDS motor can be hidden easily. They could do it for 360mm radius . 75 mm wider means ...easier !  congratulations Bob. I got only one zeppelin .Ho scale . It is with a kind of "golden grey" color with marks on it . It is still in its box .
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Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,
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Sorry Piggy I didn't read your message before... So I agree with you. Marklin always give priority to good running characteristics...
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Joined: 18/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 502 Location: , Texas
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Juhan,
I was just doing some reading and I think that maybe the 3077 and 3477 maybe more correct than we actually thought. Seems like a later change or two to the wheels they actually replaced them with a Bogie type arrangement. I found this on Wikipedia. Haven't seen any pictures with the Bogie style arrangement but somewhere there has to be at least one someplace? Maybe Lutz has one?
Here is what Wikipedia says....
In 1932 Kruckensberg began a new project with the rail car involving significant modifications. It was cut just behind the forward wheels and received a complete new front end with a TWO-AXLE BOGIE, resembling the later 137 155 railcar. The rear single axle remained as it was. The modifications were completed by November 1932. The aircraft engine was still used, however, the power transmission was hydraulic through two Fottinger- Fluid drives for both directions of travel, these were fitted on the forward bogie. A pointed fairing was installed in place of the propeller. These changes meant that the earlier 1-1 wheel arrangement was replaced by B-1 with the front axle replaced by a powered bogie.This version of the vehicle reached 180km/h at the beginning of 1933.
This is fun stuff. I wouldn't of known anything about these Zeppelins if I would of never found your website. You guys are a wealth of information. And I do mean that. The knowledge on this forum is second to none.
Bob
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Joined: 24/07/2008(UTC) Posts: 156 Location: Sydney,
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Joined: 18/09/2005(UTC) Posts: 502 Location: , Texas
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Hi Peter,
Yes Guy the owner of the above website asked me if he could use my picture for a while. I had to since he gave me a great deal on that 1 Guage Zeppelin. Thing is a monster....
Bob
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,697 Location: United Kingdom
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Very nice collection of Zeppelin, Bob. |
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