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kiwiAlan		#1 Posted : 24 December 2025 17:32:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,647 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Just got this from the Stummis New items for 2026 thread ... Seems Roco are sort of copying the Marklin/Piko project from a year or two ago ...
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Goofy		#2 Posted : 30 December 2025 11:13:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,365		Roco will present news tomorrow. Piko already present news.
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jonas_sthlm		#3 Posted : 30 December 2025 13:11:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,064 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Roco on January 12th and Piko at 5:00 PM today and so I shake with joy for something Swedish like yet another Green Cargo fuel wagon and Br 54xx Traxx on January 7th
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bph		#4 Posted : 30 December 2025 15:54:35(UTC) Retweet
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jonas_sthlm		#5 Posted : 30 December 2025 16:09:39(UTC) Retweet
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RMW		#6 Posted : 30 December 2025 18:11:53(UTC) Retweet
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jonas_sthlm		#7 Posted : 30 December 2025 18:24:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,064 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		So it will be a Danish MZ from M... the text mention all Swedish variants, may we need more after Hobbytrade, Roco and last McK/Dekas SNCF CC 65000 February 2026 DSB MZ December 2026 DB BR 101 and 2x Passenger cars und 1x Passenger cab Metropolitan ICE already green DB 4er Set passenger cars Metropolitan ICE already green DE18 Diesel locomotive with 3x Fakks127 hopper cars “Leonhard Weiss” May 2026 Edited by user 31 December 2025 08:45:50(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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kiwiAlan		#8 Posted : 30 December 2025 18:43:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,647 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm So it will be a Danish MZ from M... SNCF CC 65000 DSB MZ DB BR 101 and passenger cars Metropolitan DE18 Diesel locomotive with Fakks127 hopper cars “Leonhard Weiss” Are you talking about new items or existing items? The Br101 Metropolitan set has been available for several months, can be obtained at significant discount now as it doesn't seem to have sold too well as the coaches are made by Piko. See https://www.modellbahn-kramm.com/sc/20/p/540/26931?lang=en The DE18 Leonhard Weiss set has been announced about 2 months ago and is available for pre-order at multiple dealers for delivery around June or July. See https://www.modellbahn-kramm.com/sc/20/p/540/26180?lang=en
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RMW		#9 Posted : 30 December 2025 18:48:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 577 Location: The Netherlands		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm SNCF CC 65000 DSB MZ DB BR 101 and passenger cars Metropolitan DE18 Diesel locomotive with Fakks127 hopper cars “Leonhard Weiss” Are you talking about new items or existing items? The Br101 Metropolitan set has been available for several months, can be obtained at significant discount now as it doesn't seem to have sold too well as the coaches are made by Piko. See https://www.modellbahn-kramm.com/sc/20/p/540/26931?lang=en These are new items for 2026. The new Metropolitan will have the ICE colour scheme. Kind regards, Maikel (RMW)
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jonas_sthlm		#10 Posted : 30 December 2025 18:55:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,064 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm So it will be a Danish MZ from M... SNCF CC 65000 DSB MZ DB BR 101 and passenger cars Metropolitan DE18 Diesel locomotive with Fakks127 hopper cars “Leonhard Weiss” Are you talking about new items or existing items? The Br101 Metropolitan set has been available for several months, can be obtained at significant discount now as it doesn't seem to have sold too well as the coaches are made by Piko. See https://www.modellbahn-kramm.com/sc/20/p/540/26931?lang=en The DE18 Leonhard Weiss set has been announced about 2 months ago and is available for pre-order at multiple dealers for delivery around June or July. See https://www.modellbahn-kramm.com/sc/20/p/540/26180?lang=en If you read PIKO comments on these products, they also come from Märklin.
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Unholz		#11 Posted : 30 December 2025 20:03:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/07/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,451 Location: Switzerland		@jonas_sthlm: Your Piko link further above seems to be wrong or outdated (it mainly contains spare parts). Here is the German variety of the 2026 new items catalog: https://www.piko.de/KAT_PDF/2026/99526.pdf The Ee 3/3 II two-system locomotive is AFAIK an exclusive model for Switzerland marketed by the Swiss importer. In the future, a French variety of this interesting prototype can be expected: https://c-20155.ch/
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kimballthurlow		#12 Posted : 31 December 2025 06:23:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,812 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm So it will be a Danish MZ from M... So mention all Swedish variants, may we need more after Hobbytrade, Roco and last McK/Dekas SNCF CC 65000 February 2026 DSB MZ December 2026 ...[/url] May 2026 Well how about that. Finally ....finally ......Märklin and Trix can paint up a Danish MZ HO scale model of a real locomotive used in Australia as purchased from Denmark. And one never knows how many 1 gauge examples they might sell. Kimball
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jonas_sthlm		#13 Posted : 31 December 2025 08:34:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,064 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Originally Posted by: Unholz @jonas_sthlm: Your Piko link further above seems to be wrong or outdated (it mainly contains spare parts). Here is the German variety of the 2026 new items catalog: https://www.piko.de/KAT_PDF/2026/99526.pdf The Ee 3/3 II two-system locomotive is AFAIK an exclusive model for Switzerland marketed by the Swiss importer. In the future, a French variety of this interesting prototype can be expected: https://c-20155.ch/ Hi The parts link was more to show that it exists but was now not presented. SBB Elektrische Rangierlok Ee 3/3 II 16515 nach Übernahme SNCF, Ep. IV, DCS Certainly doubtful whether it comes from Märklin, since Märklin has its own one that you combine the chassis with the Swedish Ub, Ue and the Norwegian El10. SBB E-Triebzug RABDe 12/12 Ep.IV-V DC Sonderserie Schweiz I must admit that Piko has nice stuff but it's a shame it doesn't do anything Swedish Edited by user 31 December 2025 13:10:32(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Goofy		#14 Posted : 31 December 2025 14:22:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,365		Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Roco on January 12th and Piko at 5:00 PM today and so I shake with joy for something Swedish like yet another Green Cargo fuel wagon and Br 54xx Traxx on January 7th You can sign up for the news tomorrow if you visit Rocos homepage. News by Märklin are 8th January if not less next week at 15/1?
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Goofy		#15 Posted : 31 December 2025 14:26:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,365		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm So it will be a Danish MZ from M... So mention all Swedish variants, may we need more after Hobbytrade, Roco and last McK/Dekas SNCF CC 65000 February 2026 DSB MZ December 2026 ...[/url] May 2026 Well how about that. Finally ....finally ......Märklin and Trix can paint up a Danish MZ HO scale model of a real locomotive used in Australia as purchased from Denmark. And one never knows how many 1 gauge examples they might sell. Kimball What danish MZ from M...? It´s not Märklin. It´s Piko. Piko use 22 pole sound decoder while Märklin use 21 pole.
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klarinettmeister		#16 Posted : 01 January 2026 22:44:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 821		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Roco on January 12th and Piko at 5:00 PM today and so I shake with joy for something Swedish like yet another Green Cargo fuel wagon and Br 54xx Traxx on January 7th You can sign up for the news tomorrow if you visit Rocos homepage. News by Märklin are 8th January if not less next week at 15/1? Märklin will release the news the 7th of january according to their newsletter.
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klarinettmeister		#17 Posted : 01 January 2026 22:47:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 821		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm So it will be a Danish MZ from M... So mention all Swedish variants, may we need more after Hobbytrade, Roco and last McK/Dekas SNCF CC 65000 February 2026 DSB MZ December 2026 ...[/url] May 2026 Well how about that. Finally ....finally ......Märklin and Trix can paint up a Danish MZ HO scale model of a real locomotive used in Australia as purchased from Denmark. And one never knows how many 1 gauge examples they might sell. Kimball What danish MZ from M...? It´s not Märklin. It´s Piko. Piko use 22 pole sound decoder while Märklin use 21 pole. Danish MZ will be a cooperation between Märklin and Piko.
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jonas_sthlm		#18 Posted : 02 January 2026 09:39:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,064 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm So it will be a Danish MZ from M... So mention all Swedish variants, may we need more after Hobbytrade, Roco and last McK/Dekas SNCF CC 65000 February 2026 DSB MZ December 2026 ...[/url] May 2026 Well how about that. Finally ....finally ......Märklin and Trix can paint up a Danish MZ HO scale model of a real locomotive used in Australia as purchased from Denmark. And one never knows how many 1 gauge examples they might sell. Kimball What danish MZ from M...? It´s not Märklin. It´s Piko. Piko use 22 pole sound decoder while Märklin use 21 pole. Happy New Year! Although their own PluX22 decoder could be used, the model lacks immediate relevance and appears to be more of a makeshift solution aimed at Märklin. Roco news will be released on January 12, unless something leaks beforehand.
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GlennM		#19 Posted : 02 January 2026 13:18:50(UTC) Retweet
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Goofy		#20 Posted : 02 January 2026 15:26:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,365		Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Danish MZ will be a cooperation between Märklin and Piko. I don´t buy it! It will be salary lost for Märklin when Piko present danish MZ for Märklin tracks too. Do you think Trix will also present danish MZ for the two rail?
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Goofy		#21 Posted : 02 January 2026 15:29:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,365		Did found information in the Facebook that Märklin present news at 7/1. It´s rare that this happens. Never been so earlier before.
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kiwiAlan		#22 Posted : 02 January 2026 15:33:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,647 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Danish MZ will be a cooperation between Märklin and Piko. I don´t buy it! It will be salary lost for Märklin when Piko present danish MZ for Märklin tracks too. Do you think Trix will also present danish MZ for the two rail? Don't know about Trix, but at least one dealer listing the Piko items says it will "shortly be announced by Marklin also". Sorry, can't find the link at the moment.
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kiwiAlan		#23 Posted : 02 January 2026 15:35:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,647 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Goofy Did found information in the Facebook that Märklin present news at 7/1. It´s rare that this happens. Never been so earlier before. They have been quite early the last 2/3 years since the Nurnberg Toy Fair lost its significance with Covid putting the brakes on things. Many companies have now stopped using the Toy Fair as the point of announcements, and many now don't even go to the Toy Fair.
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jonas_sthlm		#24 Posted : 02 January 2026 15:44:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,064 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Danish MZ will be a cooperation between Märklin and Piko. I don´t buy it! It will be salary lost for Märklin when Piko present danish MZ for Märklin tracks too. Do you think Trix will also present danish MZ for the two rail? Not all Märklin products are produced by Trix, and they might have some agreements let Piko to handle DC. Piko doesn’t provide any AC products for Metropolitan.
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kiwiAlan		#25 Posted : 02 January 2026 15:45:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,647 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Danish MZ will be a cooperation between Märklin and Piko. I don´t buy it! It will be salary lost for Märklin when Piko present danish MZ for Märklin tracks too. Do you think Trix will also present danish MZ for the two rail? Don't know about Trix, but at least one dealer listing the Piko items says it will "shortly be announced by Marklin also". Sorry, can't find the link at the moment. Found it, it was in a newsletter from Hunerbein in Aachen. lets see if it will copy ... SNCF Diesellok CC65000 Museumslok in Ursprungsausführung Epoche III komplette Neukonstruktion mit Metallgehäuse mit Führerstands-, Maschinenraum- und Fahrpultbeleuchtung viele angesetzte Details DC oder DCC Sound die AC Version wird in Kürze von Märklin angekündigt jetzt Vorbestellpreis sichern! Notice the bit about AC version, which translates as "The AC version will be announced by Märklin shortly." That suggests to me there will not be a Trix version. This is not the first time Piko have collaborated with Marklin in this manner.
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kiwiAlan		#26 Posted : 02 January 2026 15:49:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,647 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: GlennM Quote: Roco news will be released on January 12, unless something leaks beforehand. The only rumour I heard is a possible reissue of the Roco SBB RABDe 500, as Roco have released a post observing that this model is hugely popular, and they did not make enough and that second hand versions sell for double the original price. I think they intend to tap into that demand and why not. Well, Piko are doing a RABDe 12/12 in red, Hunerbeins announcement reads ... Limited special edition Switzerland Change of shape SBB E-Triebzug RABDe 12/12 Epoch IV-V (1980s) many true-to-life details DC, DCC Sound oder AC Sound Interior lighting, cab and driver's console lighting all for almost €800
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Goofy		#27 Posted : 02 January 2026 19:23:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,365		Sorry I did read the news in the Facebook that there was order Pikos new danish model for the ac. I suppose it is fault at the Facebook by present mistakes? Did just checked at Pikos new and I see it now that will be no Piko ac model.
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mike c		#28 Posted : 02 January 2026 20:19:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,348 Location: Montreal, QC		Originally Posted by: GlennM Quote: Roco news will be released on January 12, unless something leaks beforehand. The only rumour I heard is a possible reissue of the Roco SBB RABDe 500, as Roco have released a post observing that this model is hugely popular, and they did not make enough and that second hand versions sell for double the original price. I think they intend to tap into that demand and why not. I saw that Roco post about the ICN. I don't exactly know what the reason for that post was. I do know that it was reported from a number of sources that the molds for the RABDe 500 (ICN) were lost/damaged and that a new model would require the development of new molds to be able to issue a new version. Since the original pair of models, there remains a possibility that Roco could release a model in the liveries that were introduced since then. I would also welcome a model of the prototype with the Expo 02 markings. What I would definitely hope for is that Roco would ensure that any new model would include better and brighter lights than the headlights/hi-beams of the original model. As Roco has announced it is making a model of the Stadler Railjet trains, it would be nice if they could also make the RABe 512 of the SBB. Here is what I am expecting to see in 2026: Maerklin/Trix: SBB Cargo Vectron X-Load Maerklin/Trix/Piko: RABe 501 (SMILE) of Westbahn Maerklin/Trix: Siemens HC ODEG (Elbe-Spree) Other thoughts: 2026 marks the 100th anniversary of the Seetal Crocodile. Maerklin/Trix might commemorate this with a special model (Zinkpest not included) It is also the 100th anniversary of the DB BR44 Steam locomotive Hoping to see: BLS MIKA, SOB Treno Gottardo Regards Mike C
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mike c		#29 Posted : 02 January 2026 20:33:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,348 Location: Montreal, QC		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: GlennM Quote: Roco news will be released on January 12, unless something leaks beforehand. The only rumour I heard is a possible reissue of the Roco SBB RABDe 500, as Roco have released a post observing that this model is hugely popular, and they did not make enough and that second hand versions sell for double the original price. I think they intend to tap into that demand and why not. Well, Piko are doing a RABDe 12/12 in red, Hunerbeins announcement reads ... Limited special edition Switzerland Change of shape SBB E-Triebzug RABDe 12/12 Epoch IV-V (1980s) many true-to-life details DC, DCC Sound oder AC Sound Interior lighting, cab and driver's console lighting all for almost €800 I don't know what change of shape there was to the RABDe 12/12 in the 1980s. On the prototype in the mid-80s, the unit number was added to the front of the train, the side destination signs had the yellow eye marker indicating that the train was using an honour system for fare collection and that there was no conductor on the train, meaning that tickets had to be purchased on the platform/at the station. I don't know if the Bahn Polizei did occasional controls to check for fare evasion, but it seems likely to me. At some point, the trains also added a sign showing the S-Bahn route in the middle front window. When the units were refitted in the NPZ livery and relabeled as RBDe 510, they also received the (then) standard rectangular halogen headlights. Regards Mike C
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klarinettmeister		#30 Posted : 02 January 2026 23:28:19(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 821		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Danish MZ will be a cooperation between Märklin and Piko. I don´t buy it! It will be salary lost for Märklin when Piko present danish MZ for Märklin tracks too. Do you think Trix will also present danish MZ for the two rail? Don't know about Trix, but at least one dealer listing the Piko items says it will "shortly be announced by Marklin also". Sorry, can't find the link at the moment. Everybody should read the Piko catalogue that's linked in this thread. Please stop speculations concerning a Märklin version of the Danish MZ. It's confirmed. Diesellok BR MZ DSB Ep. IV Das AC Sound Modell finden Sie im Märklin® H0 Sortiment! From SMT Modeltog: MZ'eren bliver lavet i samarbejde med Märklin, som udgiver AC modellen. Den bliver lanceret d. 7-1 og bliver lagt på webshoppen hurtigst muligt der fra Godt Nytår her fra Skjern Ein entsprechendes AC Zugset Metropolitan finden Sie im Märklin® H0 Sortiment!
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jonas_sthlm		#31 Posted : 03 January 2026 06:54:46(UTC) Retweet
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jonas_sthlm		#32 Posted : 03 January 2026 12:59:44(UTC) Retweet
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klarinettmeister		#33 Posted : 03 January 2026 13:36:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 821		Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Yes, there’s probably no doubt that it will be an Mz from Märklin, but does it really feel right for a true Märklin enthusiast? Who knows, III might have come as a shock to McK/Deka's future plans, but it feels like it's already overloaded with the type of models like Nohab. I say yes. I just got back from a Danish dealer Kystbanen. I overheard some danish costumers already pre-ordering the MZ from Märklin so yes, it will sell alot at least here in Denmark.
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bph		#34 Posted : 03 January 2026 17:12:35(UTC) Retweet
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Goofy		#35 Posted : 04 January 2026 10:18:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,365		Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Yes, there’s probably no doubt that it will be an Mz from Märklin, but does it really feel right for a true Märklin enthusiast? Who knows, III might have come as a shock to McK/Deka's future plans, but it feels like it's already overloaded with the type of models like Nohab. I say yes. I just got back from a Danish dealer Kystbanen. I overheard some danish costumers already pre-ordering the MZ from Märklin so yes, it will sell alot at least here in Denmark. Why? McK and Dekas have ESU Loksound 5 with power cap and yes Jonas are right about danish models are overloaded with MZ and Nohab. Both McK and Dekas have metal body of theirs locomotives which also make good quality products.
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klarinettmeister		#36 Posted : 04 January 2026 12:04:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 821		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Yes, there’s probably no doubt that it will be an Mz from Märklin, but does it really feel right for a true Märklin enthusiast? Who knows, III might have come as a shock to McK/Deka's future plans, but it feels like it's already overloaded with the type of models like Nohab. I say yes. I just got back from a Danish dealer Kystbanen. I overheard some danish costumers already pre-ordering the MZ from Märklin so yes, it will sell alot at least here in Denmark. Why? McK and Dekas have ESU Loksound 5 with power cap and yes Jonas are right about danish models are overloaded with MZ and Nohab. Both McK and Dekas have metal body of theirs locomotives which also make good quality products. Because there are alot of Danish Märklin costumers.
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jonas_sthlm		#37 Posted : 05 January 2026 09:33:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,064 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Yes, there’s probably no doubt that it will be an Mz from Märklin, but does it really feel right for a true Märklin enthusiast? Who knows, III might have come as a shock to McK/Deka's future plans, but it feels like it's already overloaded with the type of models like Nohab. I say yes. I just got back from a Danish dealer Kystbanen. I overheard some danish costumers already pre-ordering the MZ from Märklin so yes, it will sell alot at least here in Denmark. Why? McK and Dekas have ESU Loksound 5 with power cap and yes Jonas are right about danish models are overloaded with MZ and Nohab. Both McK and Dekas have metal body of theirs locomotives which also make good quality products. Because there are alot of Danish Märklin costumers. We have customers in Sweden too, but it doesn’t help when everyone insists on making Rc locomotives that end up being unsellable, and there’s no need to pre-order until the sales actually begin. I would say that all these new models, built on the same foundations as previous ones, tend to dull interest rather than spark any at all. Hasn't Roco already made a III version before, so what is missing M label on Piko construction?
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klarinettmeister		#38 Posted : 05 January 2026 17:05:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 821		Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Yes, there’s probably no doubt that it will be an Mz from Märklin, but does it really feel right for a true Märklin enthusiast? Who knows, III might have come as a shock to McK/Deka's future plans, but it feels like it's already overloaded with the type of models like Nohab. I say yes. I just got back from a Danish dealer Kystbanen. I overheard some danish costumers already pre-ordering the MZ from Märklin so yes, it will sell alot at least here in Denmark. Why? McK and Dekas have ESU Loksound 5 with power cap and yes Jonas are right about danish models are overloaded with MZ and Nohab. Both McK and Dekas have metal body of theirs locomotives which also make good quality products. Because there are alot of Danish Märklin costumers. We have customers in Sweden too, but it doesn’t help when everyone insists on making Rc locomotives that end up being unsellable, and there’s no need to pre-order until the sales actually begin. I would say that all these new models, built on the same foundations as previous ones, tend to dull interest rather than spark any at all. Hasn't Roco already made a III version before, so what is missing M label on Piko construction? I've never heard a danish customer complain about a danish model from Märklin. Actually the costumer didn't care if the new Märklin model of the MZ was from era 4 or if it was model version IV. Swedish costumers always complain about a swedish model released by Märklin but not Roco. I'm very happy for the new Swedish RC models and I always pre-order them to get a lower pre-order price.
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jonas_sthlm		#39 Posted : 05 January 2026 18:49:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/10/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,064 Location: Stockholm, Södermalm		Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Yes, there’s probably no doubt that it will be an Mz from Märklin, but does it really feel right for a true Märklin enthusiast? Who knows, III might have come as a shock to McK/Deka's future plans, but it feels like it's already overloaded with the type of models like Nohab. I say yes. I just got back from a Danish dealer Kystbanen. I overheard some danish costumers already pre-ordering the MZ from Märklin so yes, it will sell alot at least here in Denmark. Why? McK and Dekas have ESU Loksound 5 with power cap and yes Jonas are right about danish models are overloaded with MZ and Nohab. Both McK and Dekas have metal body of theirs locomotives which also make good quality products. Because there are alot of Danish Märklin costumers. We have customers in Sweden too, but it doesn’t help when everyone insists on making Rc locomotives that end up being unsellable, and there’s no need to pre-order until the sales actually begin. I would say that all these new models, built on the same foundations as previous ones, tend to dull interest rather than spark any at all. Hasn't Roco already made a III version before, so what is missing M label on Piko construction? I've never heard a danish customer complain about a danish model from Märklin. Actually the costumer didn't care if the new Märklin model of the MZ was from era 4 or if it was model version IV. Swedish costumers always complain about a swedish model released by Märklin but not Roco. I'm very happy for the new Swedish RC models and I always pre-order them to get a lower pre-order price. Maybe it’s because Roco stays open-minded and values the opinions of paying customers. Or perhaps there simply aren’t that many Danish 3-rail users who have complaints. I’d be surprised if McK, through Dekas, doesn’t already have this lined up soon in their production line. Märklin is lagging behind, and personally I see it this way: if I’ve already bought a G2000, a T66, or a EuroDual, it won’t be any more exciting to get one from them five years later. I’m expecting something special on Wednesday; otherwise, it’ll have to be.
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5HorizonsRR		#40 Posted : 05 January 2026 23:01:58(UTC) Retweet
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kiwiAlan		#41 Posted : 05 January 2026 23:06:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,647 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR No leaks yet? Where are the internet sleuths!?!? With the internet I think manufacturers are not releasing anything to anybody until the witching hour arrives, and then all pandemonium breaks loose and you can't access the servers because they keep timing out do to the amount of traffic.
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