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Offline Moris  
#1 Posted : 27 December 2025 17:55:16(UTC)
Moris

Italy   
Joined: 11/05/2007(UTC)
Posts: 21
Hello everyone (and happy Christmas holidays 😊).

I'm trying to use a 60832 decoder to control some 24997 uncoupler tracks. Background:

- I'm using a CS3+ with the latest software version.
- The decoder, auto-registered with mfx protocol, works correctly. I mean, if I connect a turnout motor to its first output, it works as expected.

According to the 60832 manual, to control a 24997 uncoupler track I need to set CV112 to 18 and CV114 to 15, and here comes the tricky part.

If I try to read the decoder configuration, I only see a few CVs: Address, Cnt. Subaddr, Automatic Units, Automatic Unit Type, and CV79 (Preset Mode), but no trace of CV112 and CV114.

Maybe it's my fault that I'm not familiar with decoder programming, but the instruction manual seems a bit confusing to me. So my question is: what's the correct procedure for programming CV values ​​in the 60832?

Thanks a lot! 😉
Maurizio
60216 CS3+ with 60175 Booster, Mostly Era III & IV German and USA Diesel & Steam Loks, C-Track Layout (always under construction...)
Offline JohnjeanB  
#2 Posted : 27 December 2025 18:21:59(UTC)
JohnjeanB

France   
Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC)
Posts: 3,692
Location: Paris, France
Hi Maurizio

Here a Märklin fan (HO, digital, CS3, Rocrail control software, 24997 uncouplers)
Here is a video of a CS3-operated uncoupling track by automatic operation (Rocrail)


Here is another video of the humping yard on my layout

Command of a standard 24997 uncoupler track by a standard 60832 decoder

Here is the user's manual of a 60832 and I cannot find any mention of a CV (I may be wrong but I asked for a search)
60832 Users manual

So, using a CS3, you don't need to bother about any CV but simply creating a new electromagnetic device, you may modify the duration field (factory set to 200 mS but increasable to 1,5 S.
Above a certain duration, the 60832 instead of sending a continuous ON command, sends rather burst of commands (like a machine gun) to avoid burning the encoupler and the decoder)

When driven manually, the uncoupler is active the whole time you push on its symbol on the track plan.
When driven by a control software (I use Rocrail), the software determines the duration of the activation

I hope this helps. Cheers
Jean

** On the 60831 there are indeed references to CVs
Here is the manual
60831 Manual
Truth is you don't need those CVs and Märklin received some complains about a too complicated decoder, so now they made it simple
Here is the CS3 screen to edit a decoupler parameters
Sans titre.png
Notice that the address field is circlked in red because there are TWO decouplers at the smae address (Bien sur = Of course)
DURATION: here 1500 mS just for show but I operate with 400mS
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Online bph  
#3 Posted : 27 December 2025 19:59:03(UTC)
bph

Norway   
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC)
Posts: 1,263
Märklin explains it here (use subtitles auto translate if needed)
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Offline Moris  
#4 Posted : 28 December 2025 09:16:42(UTC)
Moris

Italy   
Joined: 11/05/2007(UTC)
Posts: 21
Hi JohnjeanB (and bph),

thank you for the detailed explanation and for the links you provided. So, despite in 60832 manual Marklin suggests:

Screenshot 2025-12-23 075305.png

both you and Marklin itself, (in the video posted by bph) control uncoupler tracks without changing CV values, and I have no reason to doubt they work.

If you don't mind, I have another question: in the image you posted, you said the address field is circled in red because there are two decoders at the same address. In my case, I assigned the m83 an address range of 13-16 and, to begin with, I only used the first (red) output of the decoder, but in the item list I also see its address (13) circled in red, despite I have neither turnouts nor signals using the same address. What could be the cause, and could this be causing problems?

Thanks! 😉
Maurizio

Edited by user 28 December 2025 13:21:35(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

60216 CS3+ with 60175 Booster, Mostly Era III & IV German and USA Diesel & Steam Loks, C-Track Layout (always under construction...)
Offline Johnvr  
#5 Posted : 28 December 2025 14:36:11(UTC)
Johnvr

South Africa   
Joined: 03/10/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1,307
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Hello Maurizio

You may be interested in the approach which I have used :

Program the M83 to be set to Programming Mode 2, by setting CV 79 = 2

Mode 2 (Value 2) - 8 Switches, 8 Addresses
In this mode of operation, the decoder occupies 8 addresses.
Switching outputs is done by means of red-green switches
or a selected symbol. Red switches the output off, green
switches the output on. The brightness of the output can be
set with the dimmer parameter. The period has no function.
8 Lighting outputs with status indicator
Occupies the address set + 7 more addresses

As mentioned in the Technical Manual (which you can download from the Marklin website),
this mode occupies 8 consecutive addresses on your keyboard.

For example, you may occupy the addresses from 17 through 24 using the M83 set to programming mode 2.

Using this method, you can switch the uncoupler no#1 to be 'ON' using 17 Green, and 'OFF' using 17 Red.
You can have 8 uncouplers attached to one M83.
So, uncoupler no#8 can be switched 'ON' with 24 Green, and 'OFF' with 24 Red.

We use this method in a CS3+ programming event to :
1) reverse shunt the loco onto the uncoupler track positioned in the correct place
2) activate the uncoupler track
3) drive the loco forwards away from the wagons on the uncoupler track
4) then release the uncoupler track.


WARNING
You must beware that you do not leave any uncoupler in the 'ON' position for an extended period of time,
because it could likely burn the solenoid after a while.

RegardsBigGrin
John
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Offline rhfil  
#6 Posted : 28 December 2025 15:20:00(UTC)
rhfil

United States   
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC)
Posts: 797
Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE,
I used an M84 to control two uncouplers because I was concerned about the possibility of burning out the uncoupler solenoid. But this was a long time ago and before the CS3 had an actual uncoupler icon. Then with an update Marklin addressed thhe lack of a functional icon and suddenly there was one. I believe for some reason there was one icon for c-track and another for LGB track. For some reason I ended up with an operational c-track icon for one uncoupler and a non-functonal LGB one for the second track. But I was in the process of changing my layout to learn about feedback tracks and the new layout had no uncoupler tracks. Still does not.
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Offline Johnvr  
#7 Posted : 28 December 2025 16:20:49(UTC)
Johnvr

South Africa   
Joined: 03/10/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1,307
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
See attached video of the uncouple process

FYDD7065[1].MP4 (2,800kb) downloaded 11 time(s).

Regards
John
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