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Offline Kiko  
#1 Posted : 22 December 2025 22:33:25(UTC)
Kiko

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Hello All,

My BR41 (Marklin #37923) locomotive drives very well, but the wheels on the front bogie sometimes just ride the rails and don't spin. It's an annoyance that I'd like to resolve.

I've already played with the copper "spring" that provides tension and ground contact between the loco body and the front wheel axle. This made a very insignificant difference. What else can I try?

Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks!

Andry
Andry
// Marklin HO K track; ECoS; TrainController Gold; Marklin & ESU decoders; Arduino controlled Switches, Semaphores & Accessories (DCC); Win 11 //
Offline RudiC  
#2 Posted : 22 December 2025 23:03:31(UTC)
RudiC

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Does the bogie move freely up and down? Do the wheels spin easily when manually driven? I'm sure you cleaned and oiled the axles.
Regards,
Rüdiger (Rudi)
Offline hxmiesa  
#3 Posted : 22 December 2025 23:52:02(UTC)
hxmiesa

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Originally Posted by: Kiko Go to Quoted Post
I've already played with the copper "spring" that provides tension and ground contact between the loco body and the front wheel axle. This made a very insignificant difference. What else can I try?
Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks!

Ouch; Be careful touching the springiness of the wheel, as any wrong setting can cause derailments over points!

Other than that, you can try to pop out the axle (wheel set), and assure that everything is clean and parallel, and that there is nothing irregular with the plastic part of the bogie. Clean out any old sticky oil, and maybe give it a tiny drop of fresh new oil.
Check the inner spacing of the wheels and that they spin freely.
Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
Offline mvd71  
#4 Posted : 23 December 2025 00:50:07(UTC)
mvd71

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Sticky old oil is usually the problem. Needs to be cleaned out and re-lubed. You might be able to soak it in smoke fluid to soften it up.
Offline rhfil  
#5 Posted : 23 December 2025 01:31:54(UTC)
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If the wheels don't turn there mist be something causing friction. The spring you adjusted serves two purposes - keeping the bogie on the track through switches and putting the wheels in contact with the rails. Any petroleum product will dissolve the old oil. Anything you have available - paint thinner, starter fluid, lighter fluid, gasoline. Even smoke fluid though that usually has paraffin in it. You can lubricate whatever holds the axle in place with a light oil or any friction reducer such as teflon, silicone or graphite. The wheels should turn freely with the slightest touch. I can't tell what your loco uses.
Offline Kiko  
#6 Posted : 23 December 2025 16:24:01(UTC)
Kiko

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Location: Ottawa, ON
Originally Posted by: RudiC Go to Quoted Post
Does the bogie move freely up and down? Do the wheels spin easily when manually driven? I'm sure you cleaned and oiled the axles.

Hello Rudi,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, the bogie moves freely and the wheels spin easily. I will once again remove the wheels from the bogie and clean them with lighter fluid then re-lubricate. Won't hurt to do the process once again and see if it helps.

Cheers,
Andry
// Marklin HO K track; ECoS; TrainController Gold; Marklin & ESU decoders; Arduino controlled Switches, Semaphores & Accessories (DCC); Win 11 //
Offline Kiko  
#7 Posted : 23 December 2025 16:28:11(UTC)
Kiko

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Originally Posted by: hxmiesa Go to Quoted Post
Ouch; Be careful touching the springiness of the wheel, as any wrong setting can cause derailments over points!

Other than that, you can try to pop out the axle (wheel set), and assure that everything is clean and parallel, and that there is nothing irregular with the plastic part of the bogie. Clean out any old sticky oil, and maybe give it a tiny drop of fresh new oil.
Check the inner spacing of the wheels and that they spin freely.

Hello Henrik,

Thank you for the warning. I've done many loco repairs and conversions and I'm aware how sensitive these things are. There's nothing irregular that I've noticed about the bogie. I will follow your advice and check the wheel spacing. However, the wheels do spin nicely, but maybe they are just set too narrow, as opposed to too wide. I'll look into this.

Thanks,


Andry
// Marklin HO K track; ECoS; TrainController Gold; Marklin & ESU decoders; Arduino controlled Switches, Semaphores & Accessories (DCC); Win 11 //
Offline Kiko  
#8 Posted : 23 December 2025 16:30:13(UTC)
Kiko

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Posts: 188
Location: Ottawa, ON
Originally Posted by: mvd71 Go to Quoted Post
Sticky old oil is usually the problem. Needs to be cleaned out and re-lubed. You might be able to soak it in smoke fluid to soften it up.

Hello mvd71,

Yes, I'll do the cleaning once again, but I've already done that and it did not help. Won't hurt to do it again.

Thanks,


Andry
// Marklin HO K track; ECoS; TrainController Gold; Marklin & ESU decoders; Arduino controlled Switches, Semaphores & Accessories (DCC); Win 11 //
Offline Kiko  
#9 Posted : 23 December 2025 16:37:34(UTC)
Kiko

Canada   
Joined: 13/02/2017(UTC)
Posts: 188
Location: Ottawa, ON
Originally Posted by: rhfil Go to Quoted Post
If the wheels don't turn there mist be something causing friction. The spring you adjusted serves two purposes - keeping the bogie on the track through switches and putting the wheels in contact with the rails. Any petroleum product will dissolve the old oil. Anything you have available - paint thinner, starter fluid, lighter fluid, gasoline. Even smoke fluid though that usually has paraffin in it. You can lubricate whatever holds the axle in place with a light oil or any friction reducer such as teflon, silicone or graphite. The wheels should turn freely with the slightest touch. I can't tell what your loco uses.

Hello rhfil,

The wheels do spin nicely -- very little friction. However, when the loco is driving, sometimes the wheels just "float" ever so slightly above the rails. I've already bent the copper "spring" to force the wheels down, but this did not completely solve the problem. I've had this problem with another loco (S3/6) but bending that copper spring resolved the issue. In this case (BR41), the problem still persists. I'll re-clean the whole bogie and will lubricate once more (very small amount of teflon grease) and see what happens. I might even attempt to bend that copper spring a bit more.

Thanks for your input.
Andry
// Marklin HO K track; ECoS; TrainController Gold; Marklin & ESU decoders; Arduino controlled Switches, Semaphores & Accessories (DCC); Win 11 //
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Offline marklinist5999  
#10 Posted : 23 December 2025 16:42:47(UTC)
marklinist5999

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Location: Michigan, Troy
If it doesn't derail, can you add a soapbox derby small square weight under the front of the frame?
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