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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#51 Posted : 30 October 2025 07:38:34(UTC)
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You could instead say that it has to comply with the DCC standard — otherwise, they’re done.
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#52 Posted : 26 November 2025 17:35:42(UTC)
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Version 2.6 for the CS3 will come in spring....
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Offline Goofy  
#53 Posted : 26 November 2025 22:31:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Go to Quoted Post


Someday M and ESU needs start talk each other...


That ain't ever going to happen after their falling out over the cs1/ms1 and first generation mfx decoders.



Don´t be sure!
Trix did enable Railcom now in the sound decoder so a wish is to add Railcom too in the CS3.
ESU, Lenz and Roco do have this in the system so why not with the CS3 too?
The only con are Märklins digital signals and m83/m84, they do not work when Railcom are enabled in the system.
That will be expensive for mother Märklin to change the system.

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DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline kiwiAlan  
#54 Posted : 27 November 2025 00:12:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jonas_sthlm Go to Quoted Post


Someday M and ESU needs start talk each other...


That ain't ever going to happen after their falling out over the cs1/ms1 and first generation mfx decoders.



Don´t be sure!
Trix did enable Railcom now in the sound decoder so a wish is to add Railcom too in the CS3.
...


Well, ESU did not originate Railcom, so that is maybe part of the reason why Marklin have implemented it.

IIRC it was originated by Lenz, and then made a standard by the NMRA.

Offline stevend  
#55 Posted : 27 November 2025 06:27:25(UTC)
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Hi,

One thing I would love them to fix, is with two cs3 units powering different areas of the layout (i.e. at Club), when there is a short on one cs3. To clear the stop, I need to stop the entire layout to clear the stop. Why..... : (

So annoying : )

D


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Offline clapcott  
#56 Posted : 02 December 2025 09:45:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: stevend Go to Quoted Post
One thing I would love them to fix, is with two cs3 units powering different areas of the layout (i.e. at Club), when there is a short on one cs3. To clear the stop, I need to stop the entire layout to clear the stop. Why..... : (

Off topic from this thread, but you may use an Event with a "GO" command, to restart a booster without first pressing the STOP for the whole layout.
Limitations do exist ,in that the Master running the event cannot be the one that has stopped. We use the master for Accessories only (less likely to short out than trains on track), and can reset booster if they short (after the problem is resolved) without interrupting the other boosted sections.

Maybe start a new topic if you wish to discuss
Peter
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Offline stevend  
#57 Posted : 05 December 2025 18:10:12(UTC)
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Hi Peter,

I had forgotten about the GO command. I remember trying it a couple of years back and it didn't appear to work. I tried it out again last night and it does what I wanted being, restarts the power from the short circuit event. I even made a little box attached to and S88 input.

Thanks for the reminder!

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Offline bph  
#58 Posted : 05 December 2025 19:16:41(UTC)
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The upcoming CS3 update will also include some new security features in order to comply with new EU regulations......

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Offline Goofy  
#59 Posted : 07 December 2025 08:19:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
The upcoming CS3 update will also include some new security features in order to comply with new EU regulations......



Sorry but what has EU regulations with the toy product like CS3?
Do you mean license?

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Offline Copenhagen  
#60 Posted : 07 December 2025 10:00:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
The upcoming CS3 update will also include some new security features in order to comply with new EU regulations......



Sorry but what has EU regulations with the toy product like CS3?
Do you mean license?



"Toy product"!? Besides that there are regulations for everything in the EU market.... especially toy products in case you don't know. CS3 is not a toy product anyway. In fact most Marklin products are marked: not for use by children under 15 years.
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Offline bph  
#61 Posted : 07 December 2025 15:14:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: bph Go to Quoted Post
The upcoming CS3 update will also include some new security features in order to comply with new EU regulations......



Sorry but what has EU regulations with the toy product like CS3?
Do you mean license?



"Toy product"!? Besides that there are regulations for everything in the EU market.... especially toy products in case you don't know. CS3 is not a toy product anyway. In fact most Marklin products are marked: not for use by children under 15 years.


The CS3 is basically a Linux computer with an internet connection. (Some do not use that, but it's part of the functionality)

e.g. one regulation that they probably will need to be in compliance with is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Resilience_Act, and there might be other regulations also.

It's also affecting other types of products. E.g earlier this year, my Canon R5 camera got new firmware where I had to set up a pin code on the camera. I disabled the pin code at power on, so I normally don't need it, and because of that, I have forgotten the pin code.....

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Offline Goofy  
#62 Posted : 07 December 2025 16:21:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Go to Quoted Post


"Toy product"!? Besides that there are regulations for everything in the EU market.... especially toy products in case you don't know. CS3 is not a toy product anyway. In fact most Marklin products are marked: not for use by children under 15 years.


Children also use Märklins CS3 as toy to play with it.

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Offline Copenhagen  
#63 Posted : 07 December 2025 19:38:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Copenhagen Go to Quoted Post


"Toy product"!? Besides that there are regulations for everything in the EU market.... especially toy products in case you don't know. CS3 is not a toy product anyway. In fact most Marklin products are marked: not for use by children under 15 years.


Children also use Märklins CS3 as toy to play with it.



"What is a toy according to the Toy Safety Directive 2009/48/EC?

12.02.2021
Within the scope of article 2, paragraph 1 of the Toy Safety Directive Artikel 2, products are defined as toys, when they meet a number of criteria.:

products designed or intended
whether or not exclusively
for use in play
by children under 14 years of age.
Contrary to the previous Toy Safety Directive 88/378/EEC, the phrase “whether or not exclusively” has been added to the definition, indicating that even if a product was manufactured for other purposes, it can still be considered a toy."

Quoted text from:
https://certification-co...ty-directive-2009-48-ec/

Furthermore from what is not considered as a toy:
"14. Electronic equipment, such as personal computers and game consoles, used to access interactive software and their associated peripherals, unless the electronic equipment or the associated peripherals are specifically designed for and targeted at children and have a play value on their own, such as specially designed personal computers, key boards, joy sticks or steering wheels."

Text from the link: https://certification-co...ty-directive-2009-48-ec/

And: The box that contains the Märklin CS3 is marked for age 15+ so it's not officially labeled as a toy.

Still, any product in the EU market, no matter if considered a toy or not, can be subject to regulations. Of course even though the CS3 is not categorised as a toy product both children and grown ups can have fun playing with it if if anybody want to use the word "play" for our great hobby.
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