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Offline NAP47  
#1 Posted : 30 November 2025 19:29:21(UTC)
NAP47

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Location: Ontario
Hello, first help request and very basic. I bought a German Bundespost Model 8134 kit.
I have assembled a Rokutan small oval to get started with, the controller is a Rokutan RC-02.
I have power to the tracks at 12 vdc.
I have taken the body off the locomotive frame and lightly lubricated the motor and gears. (See attachment)
The engine does not run, forward or backward.
I have tried to find instructions for preparing this locomotive for first use without success and the instructions that came in the kit are not for this locomotive.
Could my problem be the controller at 12 volts as the instructions I do have indicate a maximum of 8 vdc?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Norm
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Offline RudiC  
#2 Posted : 30 November 2025 21:39:34(UTC)
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Does the motor spin if you apply a few Volts directly to its contacts? And then, reverse them?
Regards,
Rüdiger (Rudi)
Offline NAP47  
#3 Posted : 30 November 2025 22:17:31(UTC)
NAP47

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RudiC, I applied 1.5 vdc direct to the brushes, the motor did not move at all.
I tried to move the wheels and they do not turn.
I can turn the armature and the wheels move when I do that, seems stiff but I have no reference at this small size.
Reversing makes no difference.
Offline Purellum  
#4 Posted : 30 November 2025 23:25:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NAP47 Go to Quoted Post
I applied 1.5 vdc direct to the brushes, the motor did not move at all.


1,5V might not be enough.

Try to set the controller to half speed ( 6V ), and then connect wires directly from the controller to the motor brushes.

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Offline NAP47  
#5 Posted : 30 November 2025 23:44:10(UTC)
NAP47

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I have measured the output of the controller from low to high and never see 6 v, always some level of 12 v.
I will find a 5 to 6 volt supply and try that.
Offline NAP47  
#6 Posted : 01 December 2025 00:04:48(UTC)
NAP47

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OK, I tried 6 vdc, same results.
Pulled the wheels and gears out of the frame and the motor runs fine, even on 1.5 v.
After supper I will clean the axles and holders and re-oil to see if that fixes the issue.
This is a new engine but I do not know how old the kit actually is, may have been sitting on a shelf for quite a while.
Cheers
Offline Zme  
#7 Posted : 01 December 2025 00:08:01(UTC)
Zme

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Hello. Hope all is well.

That is a nice set, I have that one myself. That set was released in 1990.

Since that is an old set, it is possible the oil has hardened and is keeping the gears from moving. This hardened oil would need to be cleaned out. It is normal for the wheels not to move but this does not confirm HardenedOil Syndrome (HoS). This oil usually cannot be viewed in a photo like your attachment.

To test the locomotive will work, you could use a 9 volt battery, attach one wire to each terminal, then touch the wheels with the end on opposite sides. You should find a wheel combination which causes the wheels to turn. If they don’t move. It is possible the oil has become hard. This is an alternative to Rokuhan if it is an issue.

I know there has be some technical issues on the compatibility of Marklin and Rokuhan products. I don’t know about this because I have to experience with Rokuhan. Perhaps someone here on the forum can offer their experience.

If you look at the bottom it is usually easy to see if another “technician “ has opened up the locomotive to perform their own work. I usually examine the screws to see if the black is nicked someplace. The screws just seem to nick with the slightest screwdriver contact. This could indicate the locomotive has been taken apart and was not reassembled correctly. Disassembly would be your last resort to solve your problems.

The cross bars on the front and rear wheels must be assembled correctly or they will bind and the motor will not move. Basically one bar must connect the wheel in an upper location while the connection on the other side of the locomotive must be at a lower point. Examine the connection now, to see if the crossbars are correct. (One up, the the side down)

On a locomotive this old, you also might want to check your brushes to see if they still have coal. These wear out and should be replaced from time to time. Also cleaning off any contamination might be necessary. New brushes might be needed, and you should be able to get these from your marklin dealer or a secondary source, they are cheap. eBay even has them.

From your photo,it seems the locomotive is correctly assembled. If you take it apart, it must be reassembled exactly,or it will not work. These little jewels are precisely designed.

If you discover your oil is hard, you will need to drop the lower cover to clean out the gearbox. I believe YouTube has some videos concerning disassembly and reassembly. This is a common locomotive and was first released in 1972 with very little change. Many have experienced issues similar to yours and some post DIY videos which can be helpful.

That is a beautiful set and worth getting going. I know you will have success.

Take good care. BigGrin

I was writing this while you were posting the above

Zme
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