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Offline Disp.loc_ua  
#1 Posted : 30 June 2025 06:21:02(UTC)
Disp.loc_ua

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Wondering if anyone can advise on what could be used to safely remove some factory numbering/ logo from a loc. To then add a new decal.
In European posts I have seen mentions of DLE-90. Is there something similar in US?
A bit scared to just try rubbing acetone on my model.

Thanks,

Aleks
Offline marklinist5999  
#2 Posted : 30 June 2025 13:58:14(UTC)
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Welcome Aleks. Yes, acetone will ruin the paint and or plastic if not a metal model. Often by just handling a plastic model without a cloth or soft gloves wears off the script. I searched the DLE-90 ingredients, but they aren't disclosed. Could be citrus based. It isn't expensive, and both Modelbahn shope Lippe in Detmold Germany and Trukmo have it and ship to the US. If the shipping is more than the product or equal, I would order other items with it. Both sell Herpa, Wiking, Busch, vehicles, scenery, and Structure kits as well as trains, motors, decoders, etc.
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Offline Disp.loc_ua  
#3 Posted : 01 July 2025 06:40:02(UTC)
Disp.loc_ua

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Originally Posted by: marklinist5999 Go to Quoted Post
Welcome Aleks. Yes, acetone will ruin the paint and or plastic if not a metal model. Often by just handling a plastic model without a cloth or soft gloves wears off the script. I searched the DLE-90 ingredients, but they aren't disclosed. Could be citrus based. It isn't expensive, and both Modelbahn shope Lippe in Detmold Germany and Trukmo have it and ship to the US. If the shipping is more than the product or equal, I would order other items with it. Both sell Herpa, Wiking, Busch, vehicles, scenery, and Structure kits as well as trains, motors, decoders, etc.


Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I saw it available at Lippe, but the shipping is killing it, so will have to wait and bundle it.
After some additional research I came across Testors Easy Lift Off (ELO) as a possible alternative available in US. So might order it to try out.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#4 Posted : 02 July 2025 00:26:28(UTC)
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Definitely give ELO a go - it usually works for me.
I often use a sharp curved blade which I use to gently and gradually scratch off the number or lettering.
I say curved because you dont want the point to take away any of the paintwork itself.
It isa little more precise if you need to get rid of only one figure in a long number.

ELO also can be used to assist bedding down the decal _ I am sure it is the same stuff as the old Champ Decalset if diluted somewhat.
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline applor  
#5 Posted : 03 July 2025 04:22:28(UTC)
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I have modified many dozens of wagons to suit my time period, not only removing labels and replacing with decals but also complete re-sprays etc.

The two gentlest options are: a standard eraser or cotton tip with toothpaste.

Note that regardless it will be removing the outer clear coat, so afterwards you always need to respray the clearcoat.
This is not so easy, because the different manufacturers use different levels of gloss, from nearly flat to almost full gloss and it affects the final colour of the paint.
Therefore I recommend respraying the entire loco/wagon with the same clearcoat so that the final finish and colour representation is the same.

Also note that even with these two gentle methods, it can affect the paint colour undernearth as well - it all depends how thickly the paint was applied.
Some manufacturers you can remove the labels and after the clearcoat it comes up just fine, others (such as Marklin) I have found the colour where the label is will be lightened.
In that case, you must either accept it as it is, or go through the process of paint matching and re-spraying, which I have also done (painfully) many times.

Any more questions let me know but that is pretty much what needs doing.

Oh and also be sure to set your decals (ie. microset and microsol) to ensure solid adhesion because they can come off afterwards surprisingly easy (ie sticky tape) even with clearcoat over the top.
modelling era IIIa (1951-1955) Germany
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Offline applor  
#6 Posted : 03 July 2025 04:36:59(UTC)
applor

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Just as an example here is the Brawa 45300 Polish Pike being converted from EpIIIb (A4ü-30/52) to EpIIIa (AB4ü-30/52).
The difficulty with this one was the removal of the first class stripe, otherwise just class change from 1st to 1st/2nd.

I used the eraser to remove the vast majority of the stripe, however due to the annoying rivets I had to carefully use a toothpick dipped in isopropyl to get it all off.

I believe the DB came off without affecting the paint underneath which would have required a respray (either touch up or full body).

Brawa 45300 (2).JPG

And then after removing class numbers and applying the new decals, the windows etc. all had to be removed for the complete re-spray of the clear coat.

Brawa 45300 (4).JPG

And here we have the final before and after photos.

Brawa 45300 (3).JPG

Brawa 45300 (1).JPG
modelling era IIIa (1951-1955) Germany
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Offline Disp.loc_ua  
#7 Posted : 03 July 2025 14:25:26(UTC)
Disp.loc_ua

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Thank you guys for the detailed feedback.
Sounds like its worth trying to use the non chical approach first.
I have to admit for a first time effort my project might be a bit ambitious. So will try with some smaller older rolling stock first. But the goal is to rebrand this Piko G6, from Hectorrail to a fictitious BLS Cargo livery.
This is a bit unorthodox, but hopefully no one takes offense. BigGrin

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G6 Rebranding Study.jpeg
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