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QQQ1970		#1 Posted : 03 May 2025 13:50:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2018(UTC) Posts: 418 Location: Ontario, Toronto		What is the weight of the Shay? Edited by moderator 03 May 2025 22:58:08(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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rhfil		#2 Posted : 03 May 2025 14:22:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 856 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE,		" By 1945 the WM used the massive, 136 ton four-truck Shay Number 5 in the Appalachians."
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dickinsonj		#3 Posted : 03 May 2025 14:49:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		I have visited the Cass RR in West Virginia a couple of times to learn about Shays and watch them run. They are fascinating machines. I was crazy busy where these were announced and I forgot to follow up. By the time I did they were long gone and I had missed my chance to own one. Maybe someday.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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QQQ1970		#4 Posted : 03 May 2025 15:04:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2018(UTC) Posts: 418 Location: Ontario, Toronto		Sorry, I was asking the weight of Märklin 38700 Shay. I should be clearer on my question.
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rbonet		#5 Posted : 03 May 2025 17:24:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 147 Location: Barcelona, Spain		The 38700 weight is 568g. Rafael
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rhfil		#6 Posted : 03 May 2025 17:58:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/09/2014(UTC) Posts: 856 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE,		Originally Posted by: rbonet The 38700 weight is 568g. Rafael So not to scale.
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mbarreto		#7 Posted : 03 May 2025 19:31:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,354		Originally Posted by: rhfil So not to scale.
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RudiC		#8 Posted : 03 May 2025 21:28:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 28/01/2024(UTC) Posts: 129 Location: Nordrhein-Westfalen, Aachen		Originally Posted by: rhfil So not to scale. Yes - about 2,5 times too heavy.
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xxup		#9 Posted : 03 May 2025 22:57:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,860 Location: Australia		Better put that preiser train driver and fireman on a big diet.
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steventrain		#10 Posted : 04 May 2025 14:39:52(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,773 Location: United Kingdom		I have read review at stummiforum report a issue with screw/joint, gear, shafts came loose after 30 minutes running. Report say M recall? Sold out at Marklin mean stop delivery due to problem?
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QQQ1970		#11 Posted : 04 May 2025 16:40:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2018(UTC) Posts: 418 Location: Ontario, Toronto		That is interesting news. My Shay is still with German dealer so that is good news.
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bph		#12 Posted : 04 May 2025 17:02:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC) Posts: 1,296		So, it's basically a 568g paperweight? Unless you inspect and service it every 15-20 minutes? Hope they find a reliable solution to the issue.
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dickinsonj		#13 Posted : 04 May 2025 17:11:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Do we know if this Shay is a collaboration with another company?
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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H0		#14 Posted : 04 May 2025 19:14:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,579 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Do we know if this Shay is a collaboration with another company? The loco comes from BLI moulds, so probably "Made in China", but couplers, centre-rail slider and decoder are probably Märklin originals. That's what they call "co-operation".
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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kiwiAlan		#15 Posted : 04 May 2025 23:08:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,722 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Do we know if this Shay is a collaboration with another company? The loco comes from BLI moulds, so probably "Made in China", but couplers, centre-rail slider and decoder are probably Märklin originals. That's what they call "co-operation". The article that was linked over here suggests it would be Vietnam, but I suspect a number of components, such as motors, would be sourced from China.
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dickinsonj		#16 Posted : 05 May 2025 00:38:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		I am not really concerned by the country of assembly or by the origin of the components. I have many Märklin models made in China which are fine in all respects. I do have a problem with BLI sourced models, which was why I asked the question.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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H0		#17 Posted : 05 May 2025 08:13:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,579 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan The article that was linked over here suggests it would be Vietnam, but I suspect a number of components, such as motors, would be sourced from China. From the article: Quote: We now import 1/3 of our product from Vietnam, which only has a 10% tariff. How are the odds that the complete product qualifies as "Made in China" according to US laws?
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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bph		#18 Posted : 05 May 2025 12:08:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC) Posts: 1,296		Originally Posted by: dickinsonj I am not really concerned by the country of assembly or by the origin of the components. I have many Märklin models made in China which are fine in all respects. I do have a problem with BLI sourced models, which was why I asked the question. I don't have any definitive proof, but based on the timing and the pictures published by BLI and Märklin and their history of cooperation, I would say that it's very likely that BLI and Märklin are cooperating on this model. So, a guess is that the first production run was probably the Märlin AC version, then it's perhaps Trix DC, and then BLI will make their versions. Bli has also stated earlier that "we share a factory with two other manufacturers" when they explained the reasons for some general delays on locomotives. (But I don't know if that statement applies to the factory where the Shay is produced.) ref : The Broadway Flyer February 2025 and Project Updates
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marklinist5999		#19 Posted : 05 May 2025 14:06:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 4,164 Location: Michigan, Troy		HO, by U.S. laws? Whose exactly we don't know currently. Some seem to change daily, weekly, or monthly with moods and backlashes.
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H0		#20 Posted : 05 May 2025 18:22:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,579 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: H0 How are the odds that the complete product qualifies as "Made in China" according to US laws? BTW: If anyone here received the Shay with a "Made in..." sticker, I'd like to read what the sticker says.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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bgemski		#21 Posted : 05 May 2025 22:19:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 206 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Mine is coming from Modelbahn Shoppe Lippe as soon as it lands I will post pictures. I have the fedex tracking notification emailed to me but I'm expecting a few more days before its in my hands. Unless of course they are holding onto it for the above mentioned problem. I have two sets of the loaded flat cars that goes with the loco already in hand.
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H0		#22 Posted : 06 May 2025 07:37:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,579 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: bgemski Mine is coming from Modelbahn Shoppe Lippe as soon as it lands I will post pictures. It won't have a "Made in..." sticker and most likely the tariff for EU products will be applied, if any.
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dickinsonj		#23 Posted : 06 May 2025 12:52:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: H0 It won't have a "Made in..." sticker and most likely the tariff for EU products will be applied, if any. True - the country stickers are only applied to the models which are sold through US dealers. I would be interested in seeing how MSL handles the tariff costs and if they make the impact clear.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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marklinist5999		#24 Posted : 06 May 2025 15:15:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 4,164 Location: Michigan, Troy		My SBB Giruno I bought from Lippe has no ticker. The extension set I bought stateside and says Hungary.
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bph		#25 Posted : 07 May 2025 09:58:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC) Posts: 1,296		One guy on Stummiforum has received confirmation from Matt Williams at BLI, that Märklin and BLI are sharing the tools/moulds. ref: https://www.stummiforum.de/t233324f2-Maerklin-Shay-8.html#msg2812497 BLI also mentioned to him, that the BLI model will have a thicker drive shaft compared to the Märklin/Trix model.
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kiwiAlan		#26 Posted : 08 May 2025 13:40:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,722 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: bph One guy on Stummiforum has received confirmation from Matt Williams at BLI, that Märklin and BLI are sharing the tools/moulds. ref: https://www.stummiforum.de/t233324f2-Maerklin-Shay-8.html#msg2812497 BLI also mentioned to him, that the BLI model will have a thicker drive shaft compared to the Märklin/Trix model. The BLI model also has a different road name and number.
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bgemski		#27 Posted : 09 May 2025 01:48:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 206 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		Landed today and did a test run. I really like the sounds and seems well built.
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H0		#28 Posted : 09 May 2025 08:08:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,579 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan The BLI model also has a different road name and number. Correct, BLI also offers different road names and numbers. But their roaster also includes Western Maryland #5 - and AFAIK that is what Märklin offers.
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5HorizonsRR		#29 Posted : 09 May 2025 11:55:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 3,052 Location: CA, USA		I saw the loco today (I'm in munich on business) - I love it!!!
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QQQ1970		#30 Posted : 10 May 2025 14:49:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 06/02/2018(UTC) Posts: 418 Location: Ontario, Toronto		Originally Posted by: steventrain I have read review at stummiforum report a issue with screw/joint, gear, shafts came loose after 30 minutes running. Report say M recall? Sold out at Marklin mean stop delivery due to problem? Any update regarding the gear shaft issue?
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dickinsonj		#31 Posted : 10 May 2025 15:49:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Here is a short video showing the operation of the complex drivetrain on this model.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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bgemski		#32 Posted : 12 May 2025 15:51:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/05/2003(UTC) Posts: 206 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ		I have run mine for almost 30 minutes, however not continuously. I have to admit that seeing the system in action is impressive. So far, knock on wood, I have had no issues. Hopefully I don't in the future.
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5HorizonsRR		#33 Posted : 12 May 2025 17:49:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 3,052 Location: CA, USA		This comment is on the border of helpful vs "hot air", but some notes: 1- I have had a lot of luck with the newer Broadway Limited steam locos (I have a few in DC), and from their mailing list I know they did a lot of work- even delaying release- to get the shay working correctly, including around tighter curves. As such I would assume design is not the problem, but rather assembly, which on a shay as you can imagine is a massive pain in the backside. The comment about Broadway using a "thicker driveshaft" than Marklin is concerning to me though. Perhaps that is a nod to 3 rail Puko clearance though. Remember this is about as complex of a drivetrain as humanly possible for a steam locomotive. No other manufacturer has done a "good" one yet. The Bachmann one was low quality, the Roundhouse one was primitive - a kit to shortcut scratchbuilding, and the brass models are quite well constructed but typically need/needed a heavy dose of fine tuning if you were going to put some mileage on them.
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dickinsonj		#34 Posted : 04 August 2025 14:25:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Hello all! This model has now become available to me and I am considering it once again. Does anyone have any more experience with the Shay that you can share? It is so unique and I have seen a prototype running on several occasions, so it is very interesting to me. Pricing here in the US is up sharply on all Marklin models, no doubt due to the new national sales tax we call a tariff. So all in this lok and the three flat cars would cost $1,000 USD, which also makes me pause to consider how much I need this little marvel. Thanks for any input anyone can offer.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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5HorizonsRR		#35 Posted : 04 August 2025 19:51:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 3,052 Location: CA, USA		I've seen the cars (at a German dealer) and they are really a disappointment, totally unrealistic. I'd pass. That being said there are some fabulous fine scale models out there you can use instead, and you can use kadee NEM pockets for marklin couplers. Regarding the loco, apologies but I don't have further insight beyond aesthetics.
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dickinsonj		#36 Posted : 04 August 2025 21:49:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR I've seen the cars (at a German dealer) and they are really a disappointment, totally unrealistic. I'd pass. That being said there are some fabulous fine scale models out there you can use instead, and you can use kadee NEM pockets for marklin couplers. Regarding the loco, apologies but I don't have further insight beyond aesthetics. Thanks for that input because it is tough to tell from just pictures and the first time I see Marklin models is when I open the box. I am guessing that the weak point is the plastic logs. Marklin has used actual wood on some loads and for $200 for three cars I had hoped for better. I will have to see what other options for the consist I can turn up if I get the Shay.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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5HorizonsRR		#37 Posted : 05 August 2025 03:46:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 3,052 Location: CA, USA		Sorry to report it. If you search "skeleton log car" there are many, many options.
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dickinsonj		#38 Posted : 05 August 2025 03:50:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Sorry to report it. If you search "skeleton log car" there are many, many options. Thank you! I was going to ask what I should search for. I looked more closely at the pictures and those logs really don't look at all real, and they probably look even worse than they do in the pictures. I had considered getting both the Marklin and Trix sets and I would be very unhappy with six flat cars with ugly plastic logs. So thanks for the heads up.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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tonyfh		#39 Posted : 05 August 2025 09:31:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 133 Location: Netherlands		I did not buy the M flat cars with my Shay, they didn't look right to me. I have been searching for skeleton log cars but these were too expensive for me. Instead I bought a few Walthers drop bottom gondola's, my plan is (if I have time and inspiration) to build excursion cars from them (add roof, benches and passengers), now I am only searching for a Western Maryland caboose to complete the excursion train. Note: the Walthers cars didn't run well on my metal tracks so I replaced the wheelsets with Märklin nr. E 320551. These axles are a bit too short but I don't see any difference while running the cars. Of course the loc I converted with Kadee couplers for NEM pockets. For my other US train I have several Roundhouse, Athearn en Walthers cars, but with Märklin trucks from the modern M US boxcars. (truckframe M nr. 321796), wheelsets same as above. These cars also look great behind my Shay. Hope this helps, greetings, Tony.
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kiwiAlan		#40 Posted : 05 August 2025 12:48:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,722 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Sorry to report it. If you search "skeleton log car" there are many, many options. Thank you! I was going to ask what I should search for. I looked more closely at the pictures and those logs really don't look at all real, and they probably look even worse than they do in the pictures. I had considered getting both the Marklin and Trix sets and I would be very unhappy with six flat cars with ugly plastic logs. So thanks for the heads up. You could always replace the logs with real wood ones.
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H0		#41 Posted : 05 August 2025 13:03:33(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,579 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan You could always replace the logs with real wood ones. The plastic logs have magnets that hold them in place. With real wood, one could go for glue or other options.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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dickinsonj		#42 Posted : 05 August 2025 13:13:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: tonyfh I did not buy the M flat cars with my Shay, they didn't look right to me. I have been searching for skeleton log cars but these were too expensive for me. Hope this helps, greetings, Tony. Thanks Tony! Yes, it is disappointing that Marklin didn't do a better job with these log cars, but better to know that before, rather than after buying them. I have ridden in the excursion cars that the Cass RR uses, so that is an interesting option. A quick search didn't turn up skeleton log cars that I thought were worth the cost, but it was very quick. This gives me a better perspective on this model and I will take some time to consider getting these or saving my money for my new layout.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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dickinsonj		#43 Posted : 05 August 2025 13:21:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan You could always replace the logs with real wood ones. Good point Alan, and I live very near an actual log mill and see piles of just cut logs every day. What a great way to know what my prototype logs should look like! For one thing the logs I see are much longer and would span the entire length of the flat car. Tom also makes a good point that a new way to secure the load would have to be devised. Figuring out this kind of thing can be a big part of having fun with your trains in my opinion and thanks to you both.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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dickinsonj		#44 Posted : 05 August 2025 15:15:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		I have found a few images of a Shay hauling a log load. The logs are much bigger and they are as long as the cars they are on. So not only are the logs not realistic looking they are not the correct size in diameter or length. They are also not stacked into neat bundles, but as they would have been loaded out in the logging area. So pretty much a total miss on the loads for the WM cars.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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kiwiAlan		#45 Posted : 06 August 2025 00:44:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,722 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: dickinsonj Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan You could always replace the logs with real wood ones. Good point Alan, and I live very near an actual log mill and see piles of just cut logs every day. What a great way to know what my prototype logs should look like! For one thing the logs I see are much longer and would span the entire length of the flat car. Tom also makes a good point that a new way to secure the load would have to be devised. Figuring out this kind of thing can be a big part of having fun with your trains in my opinion and thanks to you both. Suitable magnets are readily available on Amazon and other outlets. Set up a pillar drill to put an indent in the bottom side of the logs and fit magnets into the hole. Wouldn't be too big a job.
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artfull dodger		#46 Posted : 06 August 2025 04:16:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 491 Location: Indiana, Kokomo		Sadly a 4 truck Shay was a rarity in the USA. The 3 truck, like is seen at Cass Scenic RR is the most common. Most 4 truck models were custom done in the railroads on shops. The lumber company that preceded the Cass Scenic, had a 4 truck monster(#12) that was build in their shops. Sadly it missed out being preserved by a year or so and was scrapped. The WM #6 is the largest Shay factory built by the Lima Locomotive Works and is running on the Cass Scenic these days. It is a monster compared to even Pacific Coast #2. Its a shame that M couldn't have done better research and modeled a locomotive that was very rare vs the common 3 or 2 truck models that were on nearly every logging railroad.
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H0		#47 Posted : 06 August 2025 08:49:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,579 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: artfull dodger Its a shame that M couldn't have done better research and modeled a locomotive that was very rare vs the common 3 or 2 truck models that were on nearly every logging railroad. A four-truck Shay has more room for decoder and speaker. Did Märklin do any research in that case? It's not their construction anyway.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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dickinsonj		#48 Posted : 06 August 2025 12:59:05(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: artfull dodger Its a shame that M couldn't have done better research and modeled a locomotive that was very rare vs the common 3 or 2 truck models that were on nearly every logging railroad. A four-truck Shay has more room for decoder and speaker. Did Märklin do any research in that case? It's not their construction anyway. Yes, these are BLI models, built in Asia with some Marklin parts, so Marklin probably had little or nothing to do with the design.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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bph		#49 Posted : 10 August 2025 19:14:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/08/2018(UTC) Posts: 1,296		On Stummiforum, some have mentioned a possible second production of the Märklin Shay (after the production of BLI Shay's, probably?) So check with your dealer, and if it's true, that might be something to consider. I think it is a very interesting locomotive, but I'm still on the fence about buying this BLIMä locomotive. A possible second production run locomotive is more tempting, if they have used some kind of thread locker on all the tiny scres on the drive shaft.
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dickinsonj		#50 Posted : 11 August 2025 01:03:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 05/12/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,888 Location: Crozet, Virginia		Originally Posted by: bph I think it is a very interesting locomotive, but I'm still on the fence about buying this BLIMä locomotive. A possible second production run locomotive is more tempting, if they have used some kind of thread locker on all the tiny screws on the drive shaft. I'm still on that fence myself. Pluses for me are the unique design and watching that amazing drivetrain in action. Minuses are that amazingly complex drivetrain which could easily fail, the fact that it is not really a Märklin model (BLIMä) lol, and the unrealistic log wagons offered with it. Throw in the high cost and I will probably pass on this one, although I agree that it is a very interesting locomotive.
		Regards, Jim I have almost all Märklin and mostly HO, although I do have a small number of Z gauge trains! So many trains and so little time.
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