 Joined: 09/11/2021(UTC) Posts: 18 Location: New Jersey
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Hello Roger:
I'm surprised your item came in duty free through FEDEX. What was the amount of your order? My order arrived Wednesday from MSL for a little over $1,400.00 and I was automatically charged $195.00 for duty and FEDEX broker fees. An order last week from another German dealer was under $800.00 and was shipped through standard Deutsche Post/US Postal system with no duty or fees due.
Thank you, Paul
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I just saw this on a local forum. A joint message from several American model train dealers/companies:
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 Joined: 01/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 7,452 Location: Scotland
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IF yiou live in the USA I presume the cost will go up in model shops. However buying from the UK or EU may be cheaper but delivery costs could be high. It is not just model trains that will cost more in the USA but all items from China. the only answer to this is political but we should remember that is not suitable for this forum. |
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True, and boycotting products has had success. Target' stores, Tesler, etc.
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Originally Posted by: Paul187  Hello Roger:
I'm surprised your item came in duty free through FEDEX. What was the amount of your order? My order arrived Wednesday from MSL for a little over $1,400.00 and I was automatically charged $195.00 for duty and FEDEX broker fees. An order last week from another German dealer was under $800.00 and was shipped through standard Deutsche Post/US Postal system with no duty or fees due.
Thank you, Paul Paul, My order was only around $200. Probably below the threshold allowed. Roger |
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 Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,225 Location: Montreal, QC
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Donald Trump just signed an executive order eliminating the "De minimis" exemption which had previously allowed shipments with a value under USD$800 to enter the United States without imposition of duties and taxes.
This means that any shipment containing items from China (and others) will be subject to tariffs or a minimum assessment value. It does not matter whether the parcel was shipped from China or not, only that the goods are subject to assessment and application of tariffs.
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The de minimus exemption still applies for shipments from countries other than China and Hong Kong, so if it's declared value is less than US$800 it won't have a tariff as long it comes from non-China/non-Hong Kong origins. The nuance of any China/HK content is murky and will likely depend on how the items are described on the Customs forms.
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Oh no, I hadn't known that yet. It's like a pain train that hits after the spinal block wears off 😞 Are they thinking things through 😆😅😁?
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,225 Location: Montreal, QC
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I just received an email from my Canadian dealer informing me that Marklin USA has increased its prices to offset the tariffs applied to imports to the USA. This means that Canadian customers will have to pay the US tariffs, even though we are not US citizens. It also presents a risk of double dipping, as US customers ordering from Canadian dealers might have their parcels assessed tariffs when those items have already been tariffed on initial import to America. I will be taking steps to address this issue and will report any developments here.
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,225 Location: Montreal, QC
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Here is a transcript of the email which I sent to Goeppingen: Quote:Dear Sirs:
As a Canadian customer of Märklin model trains, I am contacting you in regards to the tariffs being imposed by the US Government on goods originating in select countries. Most, if not all, of the Canadian dealers order their stock through Marklin USA.
As goods being exported from Göppingen to Marklin USA will be subject to tariffs on import, this has resulted in an increase of the dealer cost that dealers pay Marklin USA on delivery. This includes the Canadian dealers, meaning that our orders will now include US tariffs, when we as Canadians, should not be affected by any tariffs from a third country.
I have been trying to examine the possible alternatives. The first would be to allow Canadian dealers to have their orders shipped directly from factory. Ordering and Invoicing could still be handled via Marklin USA and as the items never enter the USA, they would avoid the tariffs. It may also be cheaper to set up a Canadian distribution who could receive all goods destined to Canadian dealers and forward their orders within Canada, meaning that the factory would have to send out one shipment rather than dozens.
It may also be a significant issue for Canadian dealers shipping to US clients, as orders through the present system will include the applicable tariffs, orders then reshipped from Canadian dealers may be subject to the US tariffs again on reimport, as it is not clear how the tariffs will be marked and whether the US Agencies will be aware that tariffs have already be acquitted on that good.
I realize that the current situation will be aggravating to all modellers affected, but it is specifically unfair for those who should not be involved to have to pay these additional fees.
Respectfully yours, MC
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This is why I gave Modellbahn Lippe a miss because they send their stuff with Fedex and you have to pay import duty and broker fees, plus the postage is much cheaper from Modellbahn Union and you've got an option which transport company you wish to choose (Deutsche Post).
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Originally Posted by: river6109 This is why I gave Modellbahn Lippe a miss because they send their stuff with Fedex and you have to pay import duty and broker fees, plus the postage is much cheaper from Modellbahn Union and you've got an option which transport company you wish to choose (Deutsche Post).
John Hello John, Like you, I was aggrieved at Lippe’s use of FedEx for a number of reasons (the prime being that having accepted a parcel addressed to a post office box, FedEx then refused to deliver to a P.O. Box when it reached here.) I discussed this with Lippe and they advised me just to stipulate in my order that I wanted delivery by DHL and this has since worked well. Regards, Philip
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Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC) Posts: 8,225 Location: Montreal, QC
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Please try to keep this topic on track related to US tariffs and their impact on model trains and the cost of models bought or distributed through US sources
Thank you
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Mike C
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Originally Posted by: PJMärklin Originally Posted by: river6109 This is why I gave Modellbahn Lippe a miss because they send their stuff with Fedex and you have to pay import duty and broker fees, plus the postage is much cheaper from Modellbahn Union and you've got an option which transport company you wish to choose (Deutsche Post).
John Hello John, Like you, I was aggrieved at Lippe’s use of FedEx for a number of reasons (the prime being that having accepted a parcel addressed to a post office box, FedEx then refused to deliver to a P.O. Box when it reached here.) I discussed this with Lippe and they advised me just to stipulate in my order that I wanted delivery by DHL and this has since worked well. Regards, Philip Yep Lippe are pretty good at sending the way you want. Regarding Tariffs and Fedex. Providing I am below a certain amount parcel comes from Germany via Fedex in fiour days with no duties for 9 euros. The US is negotiating tariffs so maybe in future it may not be too bad. If coming from Germany does the seller have to say that the goods were made in China or that only parts came from China. In the USA I expect people will be paying extra for everything made from outside the country amd model rail will be well down the list of priorities. Hiowever I can see it must be annoying for those who enjoy the hobby. |
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Originally Posted by: mike c Please try to keep this topic on track related to US tariffs and their impact on model trains and the cost of models bought or distributed through US sources
Thank you
Regards
Mike C I just received a package today from a German dealer via DHL(Deutsche Post). Value was EUR1,900 declared on the Customs declaration. That's over $2,000. No tariffs were charged to me. Model Railways was noted in the Description of Content. A win, so far!!!  |
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