Joined: 23/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 161 Location: New York
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Hello all.
I'll be embarking on upgrading and converting some older M Locomotives to digital. While I have the train apart I figured good time to give the wheels, gears etc a good cleaning. I'm looking for a recommendation on what solvent you may use to do this?
Thanks in advance! Norbert
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Marklin HO, CS3+, Train Controller 10 Gold, Any era. Like Swiss Locomotives. |
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Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,887 Location: Michigan, Troy
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Just rubbing alcohol and a cotton swab.
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https://www.amazon.com.au/Septon...c61752c&gad_source=1This is the product I use in Australia & is readily available at any of our automotive stores. Does not damage the armature when washed. I wash the stripped chassis with this & a soft paint brush & the rinse under hot water & dry with a hair dryer & oil axles with one drop thereafter & reassemble. Been doing it for years. |
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Joined: 09/07/2012(UTC) Posts: 66 Location: Leicestershire
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I've used Labelle Motor Cleaning System #109 on a couple of z scale locos which had seized up. Quite expensive, but effective. It comes with some cloths and picks to help with cleaning.
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Joined: 25/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 251 Location: South East
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I just use an aerosol of car clutch and brake cleaner. It gives a nice jet that blasts all the muck out of the nooks and crannies of the chassis and gears. It evaporates off with no residue and leaves everything clean and dry ready for oiling. Quick, easy and effective. I've been using it for ages.
Best to do it outside though as the muck coming out of the chassis is a bit messy. |
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The Märklin cleaning product is 02423, (aslo work as smoke fluid) Two cleaning videos from Märklin (the product used in these videos is basically the same stuff as Marklin uses in their product) and a word of caution, using a strong aerosol cleaner might damage paint, rubber and plastic parts etc. If you want to use an aerosol cleaner, look for products that are plastic, rubber and paint safe, eg some gentle electronic cleaner (non QD type) or similar that leaves no residues.
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Joined: 28/01/2024(UTC) Posts: 60 Location: Nordrhein-Westfalen, Aachen
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Yes, I use this "Reinigungsdestillat" by modellbahnprofi.com, and it is very convincing. They guarantee it doesn't harm paint nor printings nor decals nor armature / coils. |
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Joined: 02/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 783 Location: NEW JERSEY, USA
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Ronson Lighter Fluid. I've been using it for years. I have never had a problem with paint. Good track cleaner too.
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Joined: 23/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 161 Location: New York
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Thank you everyone for the input. Plenty of options to try. I’m sure I’ll have the cleanest locs in town. LOL. THANKS AGAIN! |
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Joined: 23/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 161 Location: New York
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Originally Posted by: bph  The Märklin cleaning product is 02423, (aslo work as smoke fluid) Two cleaning videos from Märklin (the product used in these videos is basically the same stuff as Marklin uses in their product) and a word of caution, using a strong aerosol cleaner might damage paint, rubber and plastic parts etc. If you want to use an aerosol cleaner, look for products that are plastic, rubber and paint safe, eg some gentle electronic cleaner (non QD type) or similar that leaves no residues. Great videos, thanks. I’m amazed that in the second video even the circuit board/decoder gets a bath? I would have assumed getting the board wet wasn’t a good thing but learn something new new. Thanks again. |
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Joined: 23/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 161 Location: New York
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Originally Posted by: garben  Originally Posted by: bph  The Märklin cleaning product is 02423, (aslo work as smoke fluid) Two cleaning videos from Märklin (the product used in these videos is basically the same stuff as Marklin uses in their product) and a word of caution, using a strong aerosol cleaner might damage paint, rubber and plastic parts etc. If you want to use an aerosol cleaner, look for products that are plastic, rubber and paint safe, eg some gentle electronic cleaner (non QD type) or similar that leaves no residues. Great videos, thanks. I’m amazed that in the second video even the circuit board/decoder gets a bath? I would have assumed getting the board wet wasn’t a good thing but learn something new new. Thanks again. Correction, I just noticed that the decoder was removed before the bath, so just the interface board was soaked. Still amazed though. |
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Joined: 23/01/2013(UTC) Posts: 161 Location: New York
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Originally Posted by: RudiC  Yes, I use this "Reinigungsdestillat" by modellbahnprofi.com, and it is very convincing. They guarantee it doesn't harm paint nor printings nor decals nor armature / coils. Hi Rudi, Have you used the Reinigungdestillat on any of the plastic parts of a locomotive? Is it safe for plastic? Thank you. |
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Joined: 28/01/2024(UTC) Posts: 60 Location: Nordrhein-Westfalen, Aachen
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Originally Posted by: garben  . . .
Have you used the Reinigungdestillat on any of the plastic parts of a locomotive? Is it safe for plastic?
. . . Well, "plastic" doesn't equal "plastic". I tested that stuff on PE, PP, PS, Macrolon (CD material), and on two of my Märklin locos' housings. I did not find any harm to the surface, to my satisfaction. Though I did not expose the surfaces for longer periods, just minutes. On top I contacted the producer novadur.de who told me they had it certified by experts ("gutachterlich" in German) for cleaning delicate parts, but only the "Reinigungsdestillat", not the "Dampfdestillat" (steam fluid), and they discouraged using the latter for cleaning, even though same formulation plus some perfume, but not certified. Of course, I cannot tell which material is used for housings between MRR manufacturers, or even between a manufacturer's product lines. I'd advise to test a droplet on interior surfaces to see if e.g. some matting occurs. What I usually do is take off the housing so I can see the cog wheels and moving mechanics, immerse the loco into the Destillat, and run it for a few minutes, forward and reverse. As shown in the original Märklin video (and others). So I can be sure all dirt and gunk are rinsed out. |
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Rüdiger (Rudi)
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Joined: 10/02/2021(UTC) Posts: 3,887 Location: Michigan, Troy
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Maybe test the oil and grease you have on the old brittle C track made with BASF plastic and see if it melts it.
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