1) is there a setting on the CS2 to indicate how many s88 modules you have ?
2) did you switch the cable between #2 and #3 with the one between #1 and #2 to see if the cable is broken ?

Perhaps there is bugs in CS2...???
Or wrong by using unknown digitalproducts togehter with CS2...???

Goofy

WTF is an "unknown digitalproducts"? Viessman and its equipment is a very well know product.

I have a related problem with an ESU Switchpilot. At least in k83 mode it doesn't switch consistently, all my Märklin k83s does (and I do have a CS2).

As far as I can see the commands are sent as they should, but the ESU doesn't always react. If I'm stubborn it will react, but I can't use it in routes since I don't know if it really throws...

I'm working on the ESU to understand if things improve if I feed it differently (secondary powersource) and if it's a difference between its k83 and k84 behavior.

And of course there are bugs in the CS2, as there are in every friggin' digital product containing software ever released. It's by now a redundant and tiresome comment. Please turn that script off.

Bigdaddynz just gave you the link to my problem... Parallell answers...

Unknow products means to swedish language:Att använda andras(företag) digitala produkter.
CS2 is not 100% ready ready made digitalproduct.(Update)

Goofy

the fact that you say it shows the train at the spot indicates the feedback units are working.
You have some problem in the logic or trigger information in the CS2

It really sounds as if there is a problem with the CS2 and s88. I only have one s88 and cannot test with more than that. Reading up on "old stuff" there has been limits (i believe?) with earlier equipment and the s88 when it comes to automation. Perhaps some of it carried over to the CS2. I tried to check it out but I can only see that feedback can be provided with s88-modules (or compatibles (unknown digitalproducts in some lingo)) but there is no mention about how many s88s you can connect. Hasn't here been limitations to this historically?

I think it's time to get answers from somebody who actually knows how it works.

i have also only one s88 and its not origin of marklin
the brand is viessman
i try once again to change the places of connections , i find that if i cancel the second feedback and install an other one so its work but again only 2 ,
actually when i do it from the screen manual all feedback triggers work ,
the problem is only on auto trigger by train .
i will try to find some origin s88 and to look for that again ,
maybe marklin put some kind of software in cs2 which block other brands to work properly

So you mean that CS2 don´t have correct configuration options for other digitalproducts in the market...?
Marklins willpower by forcement Marklin customer by to only using Marklins own products...?
To save company and not only warranty from Marklin either too...?
Hmmm...

Goofy

Neither the double speed MM protocol used for the k83's nor the s88 protocol has any kind of manufacturer information at all. Any theories about Märklin deliberatly blocking other manufacturer's equipment on these buses are pure nonsense.

Goofy, can you not work out that many manufacturers say to only use their products, just to increase their own sales?

Do you use only Märklin electricity? Unless you do I guess you have lost warranty...

as Per sys, these modules do not contain manufacturer information in their electrical signal. Theoretically they might have been able to detect some sort of signature in the shape of the electrical impulses that non Märklin modules would produce but that would add enormous complexity to their development and I think we would have heard from others if the Viessmann modules refuse to work.

Sorry,

I said 5211 were S88 units which they are not they are accessory decoders.

I should have said that Viessmann makes the 5217 S88 feedback unit which is 16 outputs and the 5233 that is 8 outputs. If the CS2 only sees S88 units as 16 outputs and you are using the 5233 units try telling the CS2 that you only have two S88 units.

Saying that your warranty is voided by hooking up a Veissman decoder to your CS2 would be the same as saying that running a Brawa or Roco LOk with a non-marklin decoder on the tracks would void the warranty. It is the same thing.

I think i find some more information from other forums ,
i search the forum of viessmann and find this, since i cant read german , i put this into online translator , as much i understand some also faced with similar problem in different decoder of viessman with cs2 ,
i will be very happy if someone who knows german and english in the forum can translate some major points from this

"Hallo,

im Rahmen der Umstellung meiner Märklin C-Gleis Weichen auf Digitalesteuerung habe ich versuchsweise die Weichendecoder 5231 in zwei Weichen montiert und diese mit der Märklin CS2 (60213) konfiguriert. Dies hat problemlos funktioniert mit Einspeisung der Schaltspannung über den Gleisanschluss. Nun habe ich aber das Problem, dass mit der Keyboard Funktion der CS 2 die Decoder nicht immer schalten. Normalerweise geht dies gut, dann medlet das Display der CS2 die Änderung der Weichenstellung, aber in der angesprochenen Weiche tut sich nichts. Durch "nachfassen" der Umschaltung geht dies manchmal, manchmal auch nicht. Dann muss die Weiche auf dem Keyboard in die Ursprungsstellung gebracht und anschliessend neu geschaltet werden. Es ist so, dass bei der Fehlfunktion kein Impuls an den Weichenantrieb geht, es herrscht absolute Ruhe. In der Testkonfiguration sind übrigens nur die zwei Weichen an der CS2 angeschlossen, keine Loks etc.
Übrigens: Weichen mit Märklin Decodern funktionieren einwandfrei.
Hat schon jemand ähnliche Probleme damit gehabt ?

Dies ist das erste Problem, das zweite folgt sogleich: Habe anschliessend noch versucht, die ganze Geschichte mittels "Fremdeinspeisung" der Schaltspannung direkt über einen Lichttrafo zu testen. Hier haben die Decoder überhaupt nicht reagiert. Kann es sein, dass man die Decoder mit der direkten Einspeisung nochmals neu konfigurieren muss ?"

Whom...???
Marklin says:"Doesn´t sounds good at all...!"

Goofy

Hi Supermoee,
thanks for information , if you are telling about the small icon with the train and hand on memory sections , so yes i did
i read also on help if the icon is only hand then only manual works and if the icon is train and hand then both is working ,
if you are speaking about other option to be open so i dont fins other

Hi Supermoee ,
what do you mean about the gorund ?
i do not understand exactly

Hi all again ,
i did groud the s88 viessmann ,but still there is some problems,
i use till now 11 feedbacks and use them with the loco shuttle routes , all seems fine the locos drive forward and back and stop at station ,
but when i give the s88 to trigger some accessories so its not work ,
i see the train is passing but no trigger ,
i will try to change the unit to real marklin unit maybe then it will work , and by the way i update the software to 10.5