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Offline Paul187  
#1 Posted : 22 January 2025 00:08:03(UTC)
Paul187

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Hello:
Quick question. What makes this loco ERA V (Märklin 39281 Swedish
Rc 5 series) as opposed to the older version model Marklin has made in the past era IV? Is it just the road# or some prototype upgrade that is not very noticeable?
Thank you, Paul
Offline rhfil  
#2 Posted : 22 January 2025 02:15:09(UTC)
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I like steamers and hate catenary so restricted from the start my hobby to era I/II. In the process I discovered something odd about Marklin's designation of their locos. If a loco was first produced in one era but modified later and the Marklikn model included the later changes it would be listed as the later era. In some cases a loco first introduced in era I or II but rehabbed to be included in a museum would be listed as era 5 or 6. So you have to read the prototype description. So locomotives can cover more than one era depending on modifications and upgrades. They certainly are in operation for more than one era.
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#3 Posted : 22 January 2025 23:29:38(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: Paul187 Go to Quoted Post
Hello:
Quick question. What makes this loco ERA V (Märklin 39281 Swedish
Rc 5 series) as opposed to the older version model Marklin has made in the past era IV? Is it just the road# or some prototype upgrade that is not very noticeable?
Thank you, Paul


It may well be just the livery of the loco was restricted to that era.

Offline LeoArietis  
#4 Posted : 23 January 2025 09:39:15(UTC)
LeoArietis

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Originally Posted by: Paul187 Go to Quoted Post
Hello:
Quick question. What makes this loco ERA V (Märklin 39281 Swedish
Rc 5 series) as opposed to the older version model Marklin has made in the past era IV? Is it just the road# or some prototype upgrade that is not very noticeable?
Thank you, Paul


Märklin 39281 and the previous year 39280 is a completely new construction from all the previous Märklin Rc.

Although it may look similar, it's a completely different loco than the earlier versions.

New body of cast metal.
New chassis, drive, motor, PCB board, lights, and the lot. Wheel axels with bearings.
The overall detailing is better.

It's much heavier, and the 4 axle drive makes it a stronger puller than the previous version. Like almost all new constructions from Märklin, it runs very smoothly on C-track.

This is the first time Märklin or any other included all the front and rear light functions, including the special warning signal with both ends flashing. (At least on the black one 39280.) The only function missing is the little orange side light signal for ready to departure.


Are there any drawbacks? Like many Märklin locomotives, the wire on the roof is in plastic, and not in metal. The side window beside the door of the cab is somewhat too tall. The chrome rings around the lights are just painted. So Roco still has the upper hand when it comes to the looks.

Test video from Svenska Modelljärnvägsmagasinet (Magazine, 5 prints per year)


Another test video

He also opens the locomotive and you will have a good look at the drive and more. He also makes some comparisons to the previous as well as Roco.


If you want some nice passenger coaches to go with this you should look for HNOLL. They produce the modern 1980's type in fantastic detail, both restaurant wagons, sleeping wagons, and regular.

Worth to buy? Yes, I'm a happy owner and as soon as Märklin makes another livery I want (like SSRT, Green Cargo, Blue-X) I will buy that one as well.
Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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Offline LeoArietis  
#5 Posted : 23 January 2025 10:01:25(UTC)
LeoArietis

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Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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bph
Online bph  
#6 Posted : 23 January 2025 12:13:35(UTC)
bph

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Originally Posted by: Paul187 Go to Quoted Post
Hello:
Quick question. What makes this loco ERA V (Märklin 39281 Swedish
Rc 5 series) as opposed to the older version model Marklin has made in the past era IV? Is it just the road# or some prototype upgrade that is not very noticeable?
Thank you, Paul


According to www.svenska-lok.se the Rc5 1364 was made in 1984 and repainted and converted to Rc6 in 1994. There is some more information and pictures on: https://www.jarnvag.net/lokguide/rc5
So it seems like the locomotive is late era IV and early era V. (there were some changes from the earlier RC4 compared to the later Rc5)

The construction choice or mistake? Märklin made on the bogies is a bit strange. ref video posted above by LeoArietis in #4
Offline mbarreto  
#7 Posted : 23 January 2025 13:03:38(UTC)
mbarreto

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A question slightly out of topic, but related:

The coaches 43787 are out of scale, right?
In scale or not, they look good, specially due to their color scheme.

Miguel
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline 60904  
#8 Posted : 23 January 2025 17:39:43(UTC)
60904

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Yes, they are too short. Construction date decades ago, mid 60ties.
Best regards
Martin
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Offline Paul187  
#9 Posted : 23 January 2025 19:06:41(UTC)
Paul187

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Location: New Jersey
Thankyou BPH...That was the info I was looking for. The new Marklin SJ locomotive will be fine for my set of Marklin #43785 SJ Era IV Passenger Coaches. I love the newer scale coaches. However, they are way to big for my layout size.
Paul
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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#10 Posted : 23 January 2025 19:10:05(UTC)
jonas_sthlm

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Location: Stockholm, Södermalm
In my personal opinion, the Roco model developed in 1982 holds up better details and painting (especially lines) than the ones Märklin come up with today.

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Let's hope that Märklin plastic electrical wires on the roof doesn't start to catch up with Lima Glare

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Offline LeoArietis  
#11 Posted : 23 January 2025 19:19:54(UTC)
LeoArietis

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Posts: 197
Location: Lindome, Sweden
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
HNOLL
A question slightly out of topic, but related:

The coaches 43787 are out of scale, right?
In scale or not, they look good, specially due to their color scheme.

Miguel


HNOLL has the modern version in the same and other colors.

https://www.hnoll.se/produkter/sittvagnar-generation-2

The red and dark gray R4 or the S12 is a nice match.

https://www.hnoll.se/produkter/restaurangvagnar
Current layout:
http://www.svensktmjforu.../index.php?topic=10990.0
The former project:
http://www.svensktmjforu...forum_posts.asp?TID=1097
With Pictures and trackplans, but in Swedish
Transitation-curves in C-track:
https://www.marklin-user...9-on-75-cm.aspx#post9281
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