 Joined: 22/12/2024(UTC) Posts: 4 Location: England, London
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Hi All, Its my first post on here I am wanting to put a track plan together in my conservatory which has dining table in the middle I have 250cm x 130-140cm I would like to incorporate a station and some industry possibly a quarry/stone works or even a chemical works I like a industrial town type of setting. I would be running modern DB Electric locomotives. Ideally a double loop track and possibly a reversing loop. I have attached a plan using SCARM free software but would really like the station to be a pass through station to give more room in the middle for industry Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Conservatory Layout 1.scarm (29kb) downloaded 54 time(s).
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 Joined: 30/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,288
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This sounds awsome! However, as some don’t have Scarm and/or access the forum using a smartphone or tablet, it would be great if you could export an image of your layout and publish here? I’m sure you will get more feedback then.  |
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Joined: 22/12/2024(UTC) Posts: 4 Location: England, London
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Originally Posted by: PeFu  This sounds awsome! However, as some don’t have Scarm and/or access the forum using a smartphone or tablet, it would be great if you could export an image of your layout and publish here? I’m sure you will get more feedback then.  Hi Have snipped the image from SCARM hope this is better.
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 Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,763 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Hello,
That is a very sensible layout in C track.
That is the plan I used as a start, ending up with a workable and sensible complete layout over a few years
My opinion:
Get that built as you have planned.
Too much "on paper" pre-planning spoils the achievement and enjoyment aspects of the hobby.
Once built you will see clearly what additions will suit both physically and aesthetically in regards to track, building, and scenery.
C track is so easy to place, lift and re-place. Don't pin it down until you are completely satisfied.
(In fact I dont pin any of my tracks down and my layout has been running successfully for 17 years)
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HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge. |
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 Joined: 27/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,165 Location: Western Cape Cape Town
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What are the dimensions of this track plan?
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Joined: 30/08/2002(UTC) Posts: 1,288
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I like the track plan but from my own mistakes on previous layouts considering that 130-140 cm is pretty wide: Will you be able to walk around the layout to access all areas? BUT if you can walk around the layout, your available layout room space is maybe big enough to enable an alternative design?: https://www.layoutvision...waste-the-space-on-a-4x8Then it could be easier to incorporate reversing loops and other stuff that are on your wish list? (And in addition maybe eliminate those 24130 narrow curves?)  |
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Joined: 07/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 198 Location: Lindome, Sweden
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Like Kimball said try it out. You will learn and have fun as you go, and it’s easy to rearrange or add when you buy more tracks.
I would move the 24624 up to get a longer stub track. Possibly use a curved switch, then two very short curves like the 24206 and a few straight track.
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 Joined: 16/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 775 Location: Bangalore, India
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All the very best with your first layout. This double loop with sidings too was my first layout plan. I had super fun building this layout and lot of lessons learnt. Needless to mention that I got lot of guidance and motivation from this group. Happy railroading! - Madhu
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Joined: 22/12/2024(UTC) Posts: 4 Location: England, London
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Hey All, After a bit of shifting things around I now have the following space to create a layout the space see image with sizing was wondering if there are any links to a point to point layout someone may have tucked away that i can draw some inspiration from as i think given the widht of 1m 24130 curves would be my only option which i kinda want to avoid any link suggestions welcome. 
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 Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,842 Location: Hybrid Home
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Without further ado, I can pull these two L-shaped "busy big city" designs out of my sleeve: 1. Inspired by John Armstrong's classic "Central Midland" design.  196 x 239 cm outer dimensions according to my trackplanner. The wye is overdimensioned to make the trackwork look more impressive.  The most critical ramp is one the involving the lower R1 curve. The distance between the underpass and the first turnout on top is a little bit more than 210 cm. Assuming that the terminus is 8 cm above ground, the slope would be 3.8%. This is doable. 2. This big city passenger traffic layout would require more cityscaping than landscaping. On the lower level a siding - plus stub tracks for freight traffic in front of the elevated passenger terminus - could be added.  Artificially extended double-track mainline on condensed oddly shaped "corner module" (upper ledge = 170 cm); in-and-out operation from stub terminal on separate "shelf"; concealed reverse loop on lower level of "corner module"; R1 and R2 curves and 4% ruling grade.  |
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 Joined: 19/08/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,049
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Nice adaptation Ak. If always liked the original plan and converting at its full size should be pretty easy using r2and r3 to substitute for the Atlas 18 and 22 inch radius curves. Making it fit this smaller size is quite a feat!
Hewlett, the biggest concern with an L shaped layout is that if it is tucked in a corner how do you get access to the back corner of the "L".
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Joined: 22/12/2024(UTC) Posts: 4 Location: England, London
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Without further ado, I can pull these two L-shaped "busy big city" designs out of my sleeve: 1. Inspired by John Armstrong's classic "Central Midland" design. 196 x 239 cm outer dimensions according to my trackplanner. The wye is over dimensioned to make the trackwork look more impressive. The most critical ramp is one the involving the lower R1 curve. The distance between the underpass and the first turnout on top is a little bit more than 210 cm. Assuming that the terminus is 8 cm above ground, the slope would be 3.8%. This is doable. 2. This big city passenger traffic layout would require more cityscaping than landscaping. On the lower level a siding - plus stub tracks for freight traffic in front of the elevated passenger terminus - could be added. Artificially extended double-track mainline on condensed oddly shaped "corner module" (upper ledge = 170 cm); in-and-out operation from stub terminal on separate "shelf"; concealed reverse loop on lower level of "corner module"; R1 and R2 curves and 4% ruling grade. Thanks for the inspiration I am to confirm I can access the back of the L I am looking at modern era germany so I was thinking small town or city station, I am not a huge fan of turntables personally i was thinking given my space restrictions a loop layout was a bit too tight space wise i was thinking along the lines of a end to end layout with a possible lower level loop but this has given me some inspiration. So thanks for responding
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