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 Welcome news for Marklin C track lovers! The missing C track piece is finally here from Märklin. I just read it in the Märklin Insider magazine that I received yesterday. 
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Originally Posted by: michelvr  Welcome news for Marklin C track lovers! The missing C track piece is finally here from Märklin. I just read it in the Märklin Insider magazine that I received yesterday. Any K-track equivalents? |
DB DR FS NS SNCF c. 1950-65, fan of station architecture esp. from 1920-70.
In single point perspective, where do track lines meet?
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Originally Posted by: michelvr Welcome news for Marklin C track lovers! The missing C track piece is finally here from Märklin. I just read it in the Märklin Insider magazine that I received yesterday. Most of us picked up on this from the Autumn New items ... about 2 months ago.
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Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: michelvr Welcome news for Marklin C track lovers! The missing C track piece is finally here from Märklin. I just read it in the Märklin Insider magazine that I received yesterday. Most of us picked up on this from the Autumn New items ... about 2 months ago. You mates in New Zealand and Australia are so lucky to get the Autumn’s New items two months ago as we Canadian just had ours delivered this past week! 
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Originally Posted by: michelvr Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: michelvr Welcome news for Marklin C track lovers! The missing C track piece is finally here from Märklin. I just read it in the Märklin Insider magazine that I received yesterday. Most of us picked up on this from the Autumn New items ... about 2 months ago. You mates in New Zealand and Australia are so lucky to get the Autumn’s New items two months ago as we Canadian just had ours delivered this past week! Well, there are links to downloadable PDF copies put on this forum, and there was some discussion about it at the time.
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Hi
It looks like a very nice design, very sleek, only one motor (I don't need more) but the indicator is sold separately and driven only when using the embedded special decoder.
Availability is very vague: 2023. I suspect it will be around mid-year 2023.
Absolutely no pictures of this 60720 DSS are to be found on the web, so some more development is needed.
Now my question: when will the C flexible track will be released?
Note: the fall prospect and corresponding video are available on the web since months
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Uh oh I realized I used the wrong emoji instead of as this is wonderful news!  Edited by user 10 January 2023 15:56:10(UTC)
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Not a chance that C-track flexrail will be present. It’s difficult by fix the stud contact at other side of the end by connect next track. Two rail tracks are better due to the contact rail. |
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Joined: 04/02/2011(UTC) Posts: 3,563 Location: Paris, France
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Hi Originally Posted by: Goofy Not a chance that C-track flexrail will be present. Yes the flex track is difficult because of the C Track extremities, molded in hard plastic but companies like Faller mastered the injection technique of different plastics in different places. Never underestimate human ingenuity. Jean |
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You can do it for two rail but not Märklin C-track because of the stud contact. It is easy for K-tracks but it’s difference from C-track. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy You can do it for two rail but not Märklin C-track because of the stud contact. It is easy for K-tracks but it’s difference from C-track. Just construct the studcontact on the underside like an infinite connected Z or reversering E:s (similar to how it's done on K-track) and it could be easily bent and still maintain it's place. It's the rails that will have to be able to either be cut to length or be able to slide into each other. Great news the slim double slip finally is comming. |
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Originally Posted by: Goofy You can do it for two rail but not Märklin C-track because of the stud contact. It is easy for K-tracks but it’s difference from C-track. Märklin applied for a patent for flexible c track years ago.. If i find my copy of the application , ill post it hete. Henrik
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Originally Posted by: LeoArietis Originally Posted by: Goofy You can do it for two rail but not Märklin C-track because of the stud contact. It is easy for K-tracks but it’s difference from C-track. Just construct the studcontact on the underside like an infinite connected Z or reversering E:s (similar to how it's done on K-track) and it could be easily bent and still maintain it's place. It's the rails that will have to be able to either be cut to length or be able to slide into each other. Great news the slim double slip finally is comming. https://www.google.se/pa...lR_EDHSdcA14Q6AF6BAgFEAMThis is Märklins attempt to make flexible C-track Henrik
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Hi Henrik
Very interesting indeed but, the patent dates back in 1989 when the C Track was being finalised.
It does not show - I think - a proposed solution to include a flexible rail segement compatible with a normal C track
In my opinion:
- Märklin is definitely working on this
- the difficulty is to mix flexibility (use of elastic and soft material) with the extremity connections (hard plastic).
- the possibility of cutting such a flexible track and still being able to connect it to other C-Track elements is imperative
- One possibility for Märklin is to provide two components: (a) the soft, flexible track as we know it today with other track types and (b) an extremity piece to connect to a C-Track element.
- so the extremity piece must be compatible with a perpendicular cut of the flexible track (if possible, self connecting and self attaching). Tricky but not impossible.
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Originally Posted by: Henrik Schütz https://www.google.se/patents/DE3903843A1?cl=de&dq=m%C3%A4rklin&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQ4t3r_9P-AhWlR_EDHSdcA14Q6AF6BAgFEAM
This is Märklins attempt to make flexible C-track
Henrik
In the events chronology stretching from 1989 to 1990, the last entry shows the patent status: " withdrawn".  |
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I wonder when Märklin will start to sell the slim double slip.
I also wonder how they are going to pull the rails into the right position with just one standard motor.
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It will probably use the same same solenoid with a longer actuator than the current double slip.
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Originally Posted by: LeoArietis I wonder when Märklin will start to sell the slim double slip.
I also wonder how they are going to pull the rails into the right position with just one standard motor.
It is due in Q2, so by end of June.
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Planned Delivery Dates
Stand: 11.06.2024
The slim double slip is said to be in August 2024; earlier this year, it was said to be in Q3 2024. We have to keep our hopes up. I have an order placed at my local store for this item. |
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It seems not many have been delivered. No more posts or pictures and two weeks have passed since the release. |
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"Joe's Modellbahnlaedle" is now showing double digit stock of the 24720
My preorder with lokmusuem is now showing a percentage allocation for me but i was quite late to preorder.
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Originally Posted by: nhumps "Joe's Modellbahnlaedle" is now showing double digit stock of the 24720
My preorder with lokmusuem is now showing a percentage allocation for me but i was quite late to preorder.
Lokshop has one of my two.
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I’m currently testing the 12 degree slim double switch.
So far most locos run well or very smooth on this new switch. No problems with newer Märklin locos or the Dekas TMZ and TMY. Also Roco Swedish Rc and Dm3 runs nice as well as both the G6 and MaK1206 from Piko.
The mechanism works very well!
This is a very nice piece of track and the Trix version will look better. |
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Happy Marklin is finally shipping the C track slim double slips switch. (I know some people will need to pull out some old tracks out of their layout, and put these new switches into their layouts.) Does look nice.
The similar one in K track would look similar in design to this C track version. Anyone know the real reason why it took Marklin folks this long a time. Wonder if it was the electronics or wheels derailing? (These days there are so many different types of wheels being used, so Marklin had to make sure all wheels with different flanges will work without derailing or causing an electrical short.
Congratulations to Marklin.
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Originally Posted by: Bill L Happy Marklin is finally shipping the C track slim double slips switch. (I know some people will need to pull out some old tracks out of their layout, and put these new switches into their layouts.) Does look nice.
The similar one in K track would look similar in design to this C track version. Anyone know the real reason why it took Marklin folks this long a time. Wonder if it was the electronics or wheels derailing? (These days there are so many different types of wheels being used, so Marklin had to make sure all wheels with different flanges will work without derailing or causing an electrical short.
Congratulations to Marklin. The long time for release is most likely linked to the newer history of Marklin. First the older owner failing in economic control and leadership over the firm and Märkling focusing on really odd models and economic decline followed. Then the takeover of Märklin by a cash-grabbing firm with less interest in developing, and declining quality control, and then later the sort of chapter-11-bankruptcy and finally the takeover by the current owner Simba-Dickey-group. The current owner decided it was time to go back to model railroad basics and halt non-profitable projects. The development of more C-tracks was likely deemed too risky a project that did not show enough short-term profit. Around 2016, Märklin brought the R3 curved turnouts, with big development costs. It was likely very difficult to get it compatible enough, specially with all the older stuff. Pair this with the overall downturn in model railroad sales. Maybe the curved R3 sold better than anticipated? Maybe it sparked more interest in a wider radius? Maybe Marklin (and Trix) started to notice lost sales lacking the slim double slip compared to the other brands? The coronavirus lockdown increased interest in model railroad, so maybe it gave that little extra push? |
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I've got a couple of 24720 and the 74467 decoder on the way to me in NZ now
Now just waiting on the lanterns!
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I've received a couple of 24720 and 74467 in excellent time from DE to NZ Not sure if any other summary has been posted here as yet so here are my first impressions: * the mechanism appears smoother than the 24624 in operation - maybe its new out of the box smooth, maybe its the smaller distance the parts traverse, or just better overall. * Appears well constructed * most of the locos i've quickly tested run over it without problem at their slowest speed step * i have yet to test a shorter shunter loco and hope that is just as fine as these were * skewed/bent/bad pickup shoes and dirty wheels reduce reliability in running   * note the bridging wire supplied for joining the two diverging B circuits. The O connector/pins bridge where the diverging roadbed "meets", but by design the B does not. However it could have been a red wire to reduce potential confusion! * Where the 24740 has Crossing legs electrically this DSS instead has diverging paths connected; without the bridging jumper each diverging path is distinct and I could imagine the use case here is primarily to split your power boundaries. *See also the tiny plastic placeholder to pop out for when the lantern comes  * shown with a couple of 24071, the wedge filler piece is obviously the same as you would expect from 2471x and the 24740 crossing  Making the offering of the decoder, note the mostly square shape to fit in the confines vs the more triangular 74462 for almost everything else  diverging  crossing lastly the test candidates that passed over the diverging and crossing paths without issue - one required it's pickup shoe to be slightly corrected  Edited by user 22 January 2025 21:09:03(UTC)
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Nathan, thank you for the nice report.
Apparently the unit would be even much better with dark-rust paint on the rail sides and a small flash of airbrush to hide the pukos in the center and the "protective plastic boat around them. If my layout was not finished I would buy it w/o hesitation
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Joined: 17/12/2018(UTC) Posts: 128 Location: Kapiti Coast
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Thanks Jean,
Yes that was one last thing I thought of and forgot to mention, the colour of the "plastic protective boat" feels not quite right vs the product catalogue picture/render, agreed your suggestion would make it better on a layout
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Thanks for the review! I second it and I now have two in full service at the entrance om my station so every train pass them.
The mechanism is much more reliable in this new double switch compared to the 24620. The rods controlling the points are connected to an excenter control wheel. This result in a much smother and more powerful move of the 8 points.
It’s a very clever construction and a joy to operate.
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